Exactly , whilst they’d love to get out of any money being paid I reckon they’d factor in him having to be paid for 2024.
The No-Look News (Schuster Chronicles)
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More of an update on Schusters issues.
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EXCLUSIVE | Josh Schuster determined to continue career after accepting Manly exit - The Continuous Call Team
The Continuous Call Team's Neil Breen has revealed Josh Schuster wants to continue his NRL career, but knows he needs to get fit.
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Nordburg
Bencher
The termination pay-out that will see Manly and Schuster part ways
The Sea Eagles have been in negotiations with Schuster’s agent and held a meeting with the NRL as they prepare to officially part ways.
The Manly Sea Eagles will pay Josh Schuster around $200,000 a year for the next three seasons as part of a deal that will see the back-rower’s contract mutually terminated as early as this week.
The Sea Eagles have been negotiating with Schuster’s agent Mario Tartak for several weeks and have held a meeting with the NRL salary cap team last week as they prepare to officially part ways with the utility player.
Sources with knowledge of discussions, talking under the condition of anonymity due to confidentiality reasons, said the Sea Eagles will wear $200,000 in their salary cap in each of the next three seasons and are on the verge of announcing a mutual termination that will allow Schuster to negotiate with rival NRL teams.
Zac Lomax this year agreed to a mutual termination of his deal at the Dragons for the next two seasons, but unlike Manly, the Dragons won’t have to include a pay-out in their salary cap.
The outside back agreed to walk away from $850,000 in 2025 and $875,000 in 2026 at the Dragons to join the Parramatta Eels on a new deal from next season until the end of 2028.
Schuster’s Manly deal is worth around $800,000 per season, but after dialogue with the NRL this week, it’s unlikely the Sea Eagles will have to carry the $600,000 differential in their salary cap.
The Sea Eagles have already paid Schuster $400,000 since the November 1 start of the rugby league financial year and won’t have to pay him any more in 2024.
The Sea Eagles are trying to be sensitive during a delicate period in Schuster’s life as he addresses some personal issues away from the field.
It’s why they have brought the NRL and the Rugby League Players’ Association into the conversations.
Manly believe they have cause to breach Schuster over a series of performance-related issues and terminate his contract without pay, but they don’t want to be insensitive to the 22-year-old’s personal issues.
The Sea Eagles approached the NRL and explained they could go down the path of breaching him out of his deal, but did not believe that was the right way to deal with the matter.
It’s a similar predicament the Wests Tigers found themselves in with David Nofoaluma earlier in the year when they offered the veteran winger $300,000 to walk away from the final two years of his deal.
The Tigers believed they had grounds to terminate Nofoaluma’s contract after a series of breaches but instead offered him a settlement pay-out to avoid having to sack him given his services to the club over a long period and concerns over his wellbeing.
Nofoaluma, who is also managed by Tartak, was advised to accept the offer and left the club in January.
When Manly agreed to a three-year, $2.4 million extension of Schuster’s contract last year, they did so with the protection of a pre-season weight clause built into it, according to sources speaking on the condition of anonymity due to confidentiality.
Schuster managed to reach a career-low 112 kilograms over the summer. His conditioning then slowly began to deteriorate after suffering chickenpox before Christmas. That was followed by a broken that required surgery and a calf injury.
Manly subsequently left him out of their trip to Las Vegas and Schuster has struggled to get himself into the shape, mindset and form to win his way back into the NRL side. Schuster has now been granted personal leave and isn’t expected back at Manly again.
The other issue Schuster had was the faith - or lack thereof - of his teammates, who began to question his commitment to the team.
The form of back-rower Ben Trbojevic also made it an easier decision for Manly to part ways with the highly talented but inconsistent Schuster.
The Sea Eagles have been negotiating with Schuster’s agent Mario Tartak for several weeks and have held a meeting with the NRL salary cap team last week as they prepare to officially part ways with the utility player.
Sources with knowledge of discussions, talking under the condition of anonymity due to confidentiality reasons, said the Sea Eagles will wear $200,000 in their salary cap in each of the next three seasons and are on the verge of announcing a mutual termination that will allow Schuster to negotiate with rival NRL teams.
Zac Lomax this year agreed to a mutual termination of his deal at the Dragons for the next two seasons, but unlike Manly, the Dragons won’t have to include a pay-out in their salary cap.
The outside back agreed to walk away from $850,000 in 2025 and $875,000 in 2026 at the Dragons to join the Parramatta Eels on a new deal from next season until the end of 2028.
Schuster’s Manly deal is worth around $800,000 per season, but after dialogue with the NRL this week, it’s unlikely the Sea Eagles will have to carry the $600,000 differential in their salary cap.
The Sea Eagles have already paid Schuster $400,000 since the November 1 start of the rugby league financial year and won’t have to pay him any more in 2024.
The Sea Eagles are trying to be sensitive during a delicate period in Schuster’s life as he addresses some personal issues away from the field.
It’s why they have brought the NRL and the Rugby League Players’ Association into the conversations.
Manly believe they have cause to breach Schuster over a series of performance-related issues and terminate his contract without pay, but they don’t want to be insensitive to the 22-year-old’s personal issues.
The Sea Eagles approached the NRL and explained they could go down the path of breaching him out of his deal, but did not believe that was the right way to deal with the matter.
It’s a similar predicament the Wests Tigers found themselves in with David Nofoaluma earlier in the year when they offered the veteran winger $300,000 to walk away from the final two years of his deal.
The Tigers believed they had grounds to terminate Nofoaluma’s contract after a series of breaches but instead offered him a settlement pay-out to avoid having to sack him given his services to the club over a long period and concerns over his wellbeing.
Nofoaluma, who is also managed by Tartak, was advised to accept the offer and left the club in January.
When Manly agreed to a three-year, $2.4 million extension of Schuster’s contract last year, they did so with the protection of a pre-season weight clause built into it, according to sources speaking on the condition of anonymity due to confidentiality.
Schuster managed to reach a career-low 112 kilograms over the summer. His conditioning then slowly began to deteriorate after suffering chickenpox before Christmas. That was followed by a broken that required surgery and a calf injury.
Manly subsequently left him out of their trip to Las Vegas and Schuster has struggled to get himself into the shape, mindset and form to win his way back into the NRL side. Schuster has now been granted personal leave and isn’t expected back at Manly again.
The other issue Schuster had was the faith - or lack thereof - of his teammates, who began to question his commitment to the team.
The form of back-rower Ben Trbojevic also made it an easier decision for Manly to part ways with the highly talented but inconsistent Schuster.
it was disappointing to hear that he acknowledged that he finds it difficult to bypass the fast food driveways.
Sounds like his personal issues are very sensitive with no details on them, doesn’t sound good for his mental health.
Without knowing the details it appears the club well and truly went above and beyond with Josh, don’t know if there is any truth to it but it was reported he was the heaviest player at the club weighing in at 120kg.
I had hoped it would be zero $$$
But I imagine the NRL & RLPA stepped in
But I imagine the NRL & RLPA stepped in
Adz
Reserve Grader
If Waddell keeps his form up he should be in line for an upgrade as well.....
HoldenV8
Journey Man
We need a hooker. Personally I'd be quietly asking about the possibility of getting Damien Cook who is out of favour at Souths.
No offence at all to Froggy who has done an admiral job over the past 4–5 years, but he is still only really good enough to be a back up dummy half. IMO we need a dummy half who can not only pass consistently, but can run. Cook fits that bill.
At a guess, his best mate died in the Manly training facilities. He then had to relive that all at the start of the year through court proceedings, and every day he walks into the Manly facilities it is a reminder of it. Hopefully getting away from that every day will help the bloke
Nordburg
Bencher
Cook is 33 in a couple of months,his best days are cooked
I hear what you are saying but it is pretty clear that he has some serious issues going on at the moment (diet included).
Granted… and I am sympathetic. I have my own demons and challenges in life, as do we all. Compassion and understanding is important, as is being held accountable too. It’s hard to know what is the appropriate balance between those two ends. I hope Schu has the right people around him to navigate that tightrope.
No doubt on that though this is what Bulldog Ritchie is reporting, similar what was said on 2GB today.
Teammates complained he was not prepared to train to the levels expected of an NRL player.
Manly wanted Schuster to take time away from football to focus on personal problems – including some historic family issues – they claim have disrupted his football career.
Manly is poised to pay departing star Josh Schuster a $600,000 termination agreement.
The financial payout will formally end Schuster’s contentious tenure at Brookvale.
Manly will remunerate Schuster $200,000 a season for the next three years.
Sea Eagles management would not confirm the amount but privately admitted the settlement would be paid.
The $200,000 a year figure is significantly less than the $800,000 a season Schuster signed to remain at Manly.
Sea Eagles chief executive Tony Mestrov and Schuster’s manager, Mario Tartak, have been in dialogue for the past fortnight.
The termination between player and club will be mutual.
Manly has also met with the NRL salary cap auditor to discuss Schuster’s ultimate pay out.
It will be a sad exit for a player Manly once thought could become one of the finest in the club’s history.
Schuster’s time at Manly was mixed between some on-field brilliance and off-field issues.
Josh Schuster has reached a termination agreement with Manly.
Teammates complained he was not prepared to train to the levels expected of an NRL player.
Manly wanted Schuster to take time away from football to focus on personal problems – including some historic family issues – they claim have disrupted his football career.
Schuster still had this year, and another three seasons, remaining in his Sea Eagles contract.
The 22-year-old has told friends he wants to continue playing football at the highest level.
Schuster has conceded he needs to drive himself to greater levels at training.
He has told friends he’s upset at his demise at Manly but is understanding of the club’s decision.
No termination deal has been formally reached but the agreement will be finalised soon.
Some are urging Schuster to consider transferring to England’s Super League but the backrower has told friends he would prefer to remain in Australia.
But Tartak is aware of two clubs who have an interest in his client.
The financial payout will formally end Schuster’s contentious tenure at Brookvale.
Manly will remunerate Schuster $200,000 a season for the next three years.
Sea Eagles management would not confirm the amount but privately admitted the settlement would be paid.
The $200,000 a year figure is significantly less than the $800,000 a season Schuster signed to remain at Manly.
Sea Eagles chief executive Tony Mestrov and Schuster’s manager, Mario Tartak, have been in dialogue for the past fortnight.
The termination between player and club will be mutual.
Manly has also met with the NRL salary cap auditor to discuss Schuster’s ultimate pay out.
It will be a sad exit for a player Manly once thought could become one of the finest in the club’s history.
Schuster’s time at Manly was mixed between some on-field brilliance and off-field issues.
Josh Schuster has reached a termination agreement with Manly.
Teammates complained he was not prepared to train to the levels expected of an NRL player.
Manly wanted Schuster to take time away from football to focus on personal problems – including some historic family issues – they claim have disrupted his football career.
Schuster still had this year, and another three seasons, remaining in his Sea Eagles contract.
The 22-year-old has told friends he wants to continue playing football at the highest level.
Schuster has conceded he needs to drive himself to greater levels at training.
He has told friends he’s upset at his demise at Manly but is understanding of the club’s decision.
No termination deal has been formally reached but the agreement will be finalised soon.
Some are urging Schuster to consider transferring to England’s Super League but the backrower has told friends he would prefer to remain in Australia.
But Tartak is aware of two clubs who have an interest in his client.
Paying Schu $400K for 2024 and $200K/season for 2025-27 (= $1M) seems like a very good outcome for us. Worst case scenario could've been we had to pay $800k + $2.4M for 4 years (= $3.2M). Hopefully Schu has a very good outcome at the end of all this too.
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