The Life Of Brian (Kelly)

[Bearfax]

We both made our points and now we can both get on with life and have a happy day 🙂
Life is too short for anything else

I sense a dismissal there Bozo. Perhaps I am wrong but its how I read it.

I suspect you read too much into what I am saying. This is not an attack against you or your opinion.. As I said its how I see things, but I'm not perfect and I may be flawed in elements of my interpretation. The discourse in which we have indulged was debate Bozo, nothing more. A sharing of ideas and learning something as a result.

I respect what you have to say. You seem a perceptive individual. Its not personal. We come at issues from different directions and debating is how we learn. There are no absolutes only perceptions. You don't have to agree with another's interpretations to respect it being something of worth borne out of years of experience. To dismiss an alternative opinion, is to reduce what we can know.

 

[anthonyb1965]

NRL COM Season 2018 Player stats
Leading Missed tackles

* Brian Kelly Games Played 24 Missed Tackles 79

*Tom Turbo GP 22 MT 35

*Matt Wright GP 17 MT 25

*Suli GP 15 MT14

*Parker GP 17 MT 14

*Jorge GP 12 MT 9

Looking at averages across the whole NRL (worst tacklers);

J Maloney - 6.1 missed tackles per game
Ben Hunt - 4 missed tackles per game
Luke Brooks - 3.8 missed tackles per game
J Thurston - 3.7 missed tackles per game
B Marshell - 3.6 missed tackles per game
S Johnson - 3.4 missed tackles per game
Dane Gagai - 3.2 missed tackles per game
Brian Kelly - 3.1 missed tackles per game

 

[BOZO]

How, in your dribblers mind, does that support your grandiose statement that (quote) .. " Matai at 22 years of age had well and truly fixed his defensive lapses like most good young players do "

I repeat, by 2006. when aged 22, Matai had only played 11 first grade games, and many wise people on here remember it took him several seasons to become the full package ... and even then missed his share ..

Now, if again you think that comparing Kelly, to one of the best centres this club has ever had, is somehow evidence that Kelly is useless, you need to spend less time drooling in a mirror.

To many wise experts on here they are entitled to think what they like . To the NZ selectors Matai proved that he was ready for the job and proved them correct
Matai at 22 years of age was a proven International . 😉

 

[BOZO]

The three cowboys that fire blanks @StuBoot @mave and @Woodsie like to get personal in a forum
They revert to name calling
Heroes behind the keyboard 😉
Is that all you got boys ? ??
Anything else personal ???
Lets see where it will end ???

 

[Woodsie]

The three cowboys that fire blanks @StuBoot @mave and @Woodsie like to get personal in a forum
They revert to name calling
Heroes behind the keyboard 😉
Is that all you got boys ? ??
Anything else personal ???
Lets see where it will end ???

Probably end like most of your nights queenie ......in front of a mirror with the situation well in hand ....

 

[BOZO]

Probably end like most of your nights queenie ......in front of a mirror with the situation well in hand ....

Queenie ? How would you like to arrange an evening with the Queen ?
You can bring your other 2 warrior mates with you ?

 

[Woodsie]

Queenie ? How would you like to arrange an evening with the Queen ?
You can bring your other 2 warrior mates with you ?

Whoa .. giddy-up cowboy. as much as I voted yes ... I'm not ready join that conga line ....

PSS ... that sort of talk might work in the big smoke ... but out here in the bush ... you would just be asked to use the girls change room ..

 

[40 years an eagle]

Matai at 22 years of age was a proven International . 😉

At 22 yo he played his first 2 tests and scored no tries. Hardly "a proven International".

Before he turned 23 he had played 35 FG games and 2 full years in FG for 13 tries and was still an average defender.

Kelly's FG debut was 2 weeks before his 21st birthday and scored a try.

He is only 22y 5m old and has scored 15 FG tries and his defence is slightly better than Matai's was at the same age.

His growth and abilities compare favourably to Matai's at the same age.

I believe he will grow to be a VERY good player.

EDIT; In the only missed tackle stats I could find for 2007, which covers the first 10 rounds, Matai was our worst at some 23%

BTW, I am a HUGE Matai fan.

 

[StuBoot]

The three cowboys that fire blanks @StuBoot @mave and @Woodsie like to get personal in a forum
They revert to name calling
Heroes behind the keyboard 😉
Is that all you got boys ? ??
Anything else personal ???
Lets see where it will end ???

@BOZO nothing personal at all, that's not my go, was a response to @mave's post which reminded me of this saying.

Your prerogative to take it personally - just like the Bulldogs Monday Luncheon some think it's a storm in a teacup others think it's the beginning of the end of a civilised society.

However I do disagree with your rating of Kelly, I think he's coming along nicely, he did a nice job on Roberts last week and I like to think his missed tackles are more to do with the team malaise than a glaring deficiency.

 

[BOZO]

@BOZO nothing personal at all, that's not my go, was a response to @mave's post which reminded me of this saying.

Your prerogative to take it personally, just like the Bulldogs Monday Luncheon some think it's a storm in a teacup others think it's the beginning of the end of a civilised society.

I accept your reply and apologize for taking it the wrong way . What i dont find acceptable on here is personal attacks .
Personal attacks dont end up too well . One can only push anothers buttons too far .

 

[BOZO]

Whoa .. giddy-up cowboy. as much as I voted yes ... I'm not ready join that conga line ....

PSS ... that sort of talk might work in the big smoke ... but out here in the bush ... you would just be asked to use the girls change room ..

I remember you saying that you are a 65 year old man .
I will respect that and leave you with some dignity .

 

[robbiea]

Its may be personal to Kelly & his Family . You should live by your preaching ,oh immeasurable incomparable one.

 

[mozgrame]

Whoa .. giddy-up cowboy. as much as I voted yes ... I'm not ready join that conga line ....

PSS ... that sort of talk might work in the big smoke ... but out here in the bush ... you would just be asked to use the girls change room ..

Settle down you blokes!

If your going to blue...do it right. Not like last time.......which I managed to record.

WARNING!!!!! Contains swearing. If likely to be offended, please turn the volume down.

 

[BOZO]

@BOZO nothing personal at all, that's not my go, was a response to @mave's post which reminded me of this saying.

Your prerogative to take it personally - just like the Bulldogs Monday Luncheon some think it's a storm in a teacup others think it's the beginning of the end of a civilised society.

However I do disagree with your rating of Kelly, I think he's coming along nicely, he did a nice job on Roberts last week and I like to think his missed tackles are more to do with the team malaise than a glaring deficiency.

So you disagree with me on my rating of Kelly ? So do many others and many others agree with me . Does this mean we should call each other fools because we see things differently ?

 

[BOZO]

Its may be personal to Kelly & his Family . You should live by your preaching ,oh immeasurable incomparable one.

Every one has an opinion on players on here including YOU !!!. I have never seen any posts talk about any players family .

 

[Woodsie]

derp derp

 

[40 years an eagle]

So you disagree with me on my rating of Kelly ? So do many others and many others agree with me

From reading the posts here and RL expert's opinions outside here, very few people agree with your rating of Kelly,..if any.

 

[robbiea]

Every one has an opinion on players on here including YOU !!!. I have never seen any posts talk about any players family .

Once again ,you fail to recognise rational sense.Who is talking about posts aimed at family ?.
Family may be upset reading the endless barragement dished by you at their family member (Thats Kelly ,in case you are lost).
Family cares about Family ,loved ones care about loved ones.Kelly is still a kid and if I was his father reading your endless rants ,Lets just say -you wouldnt be on the xmas card list.
I can see why you probably dont understand these basic human emotions.Being born from an egg may have impaired some of your natural brain chemistry.
( Sorry ,that was a low blow) I wish to apologise to all fish,amphibians ,reptiles,birds and the occasional monotreme......

 

[robbiea]

derp derp

Sometimes it feels as though you are beating your head against the whip which is lying next to the dead horse.
(which is also beside the mirror and vaso)

 

[Woodsie]

I will probably go to hell for laughing at that ...

But it is an inappropriate and unwarranted attack and I do not support it .....