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The idea of Foran playing at 9 is growing on me. Watched the tigers game and everything they do starts with Grant. We had nothing at hooker this year except a deer in headlights.

At least with Foran he can direct the team around, have a smart passing and kicking game, will take the ball to the line etc. Yes will have to do more defence, hopefully his body holds up. Could turn out to be a masterstroke? Wait and see
I don't think the plan is for Foran to be a traditional 9 if Walker is retained at 5/8. I think at the start Foran will come on off the interchange after 20 and only partially play the hooker role with a starter filling in also, giving Foran the freedom to be the third option ball player and allowing Manly to have several options.

Might also mix it up and have Walker and Foran designated with left and right side hooker duties, forcing DCE to play more central and using each as 5/8's depending on what side the movement starts.(so at all times we have two halves in play)

Will take a lot of work in the off season to get that complicated mix right though and have it gel as you are asking a few players to take on several roles and to always be on alert---high risk of disjointedness but could be a game changer having so many ball playing attacking options on the field at all times.

The main benefit of this system is that both Walker and Foran can take the line on and be tackled with the ball, and not just always play before the line wanting to be available for the next play---having two halves on call at any one time.
 

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I don't think the plan is for Foran to be a traditional 9 if Walker is retained at 5/8. I think at the start Foran will come on off the interchange after 20 and only partially play the hooker role with a starter filling in also, giving Foran the freedom to be the third option ball player and allowing Manly to have several options.

Might also mix it up and have Walker and Foran designated with left and right side hooker duties, forcing DCE to play more central and using each as 5/8's depending on what side the movement starts.(so at all times we have two halves in play)

Will take a lot of work in the off season to get that complicated mix right though and have it gel as you are asking a few players to take on several roles and to always be on alert---high risk of disjointedness but could be a game changer having so many ball playing attacking options on the field at all times.

The main benefit of this system is that both Walker and Foran can take the line on and be tackled with the ball, and not just always play before the line wanting to be available for the next play---always having two halves on call at any one time.
Walker? I’m pretty sure he will be in the centres.
 

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Walker? I’m pretty sure he will be in the centres.
I'm not totally convinced about that---i think Walker has shown enough at 5/8 to be a hybrid 5/8/Centre, not just limited to a line running centre waiting for service.

Walker won't stick around if he plays a traditional centre role, along with i'm not convinced Forans body will stand up long term anyway, this system affords the best of both worlds, is flexible and you can always revert back to more traditional roles if injuries hit.

More mobile back rowers chiming in as they do anyway out wide running center like lines but a little more central than a traditional center---not always having the 5/8 pinned in that outer third corridor that tends to get predictable due to a lack of space and options.
 
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I'm not totally convinced about that---i think Walker has shown enough at 5/8 to be a hybrid 5/8/Centre, not just limited to a line running centre waiting for service.

Walker won't stick around if he plays a traditional centre role, along with i'm not convinced Forans body will stand up long term anyway, this system affords the best of both worlds, is flexible and you can always revert back to more traditional roles if injuries hit.
Walker will play center.. this is the way

If Bradley Parker is center round 1 next season i will spit chups

Ps foran and JS. Two actually 5/8s :)
 

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Haha yes i did! It just made sense really. Des loves Foran he's on the market for cheap as chips. He's a great player and will give us much needed experience and guidance
And as well as all that, I'd like to think he still has a bit of Manly DNA in him from his earlier years, which won't go astray...
 

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Walker will play center.. this is the way

If Bradley Parker is center round 1 next season i will spit chups

Ps foran and JS. Two actually 5/8s :)
You can still have Walker playing as a center but with more flexibility like Jamie Lyon(but obviously lacking the variety of Lyon)

If it is just a case of having Walker revert back to a traditional centre role, first we wont retain him, second he will lose interest, thirdly i highly doubt Forans body will last a full season or if it does we will only get one good season physically out of him so his purchase lacks long term benefits.

The risk with Schuster is he beefs up, slows down and loses spark, becoming more a sharp ball playing forward than a 5/8 that can take on the line at pace.
 

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You can still have Walker playing as a center but with more flexibility like Jamie Lyon(but obviously lacking the variety of Lyon)

If it is just a case of having Walker revert back to a traditional centre role, first we wont retain him, second he will lose interest, thirdly i highly doubt Forans body will last a full season or if it does we will only get one good season physically out of him so his purchase lacks long term benefits.

The risk with Schuster is he beefs up, slows down and loses spark, becoming more a sharp ball playing forward than a 5/8 that can take on the line at pace.
So what do you think our team will look like come round one?
Im thinking...
1. Turbo
2. Funa
3. Walker
4. Suli
5. Saab
6. Schuster
7. Cherry-Evans
8. Paseka
9. Cust
10. Marty
11. Guacamole
12. Siro
13. Jake
14. Foran
15. Keppie
16. Sione Fainu
17. Garner or Jetski

Not sure what des will do with Foran. Im pretty sure he will start in the 6... but who knows
 

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I think for Kieran to have a succesful 2021, he needs to be given a copy of the "Kieran Forum" to read before preseason training starts.

The insights he will gain from all the insights, informative research, caring, emotion, intelligence and sheer volume of the script we have all created as we held a candle for him will make him a better man.

Either that, or we make a Hollywood movie and make this thread the script, or a public reading from Silvertails members in the Domain

NYEagle
Haha similar to a rookie nfl player walking around the complex reading his new playbook. Imagine Foz in the canteen head down studying the forum. Lol
 

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So what do you think our team will look like come round one?
Im thinking...
1. Turbo
2. Funa
3. Walker
4. Suli
5. Saab
6. Schuster
7. Cherry-Evans
8. Paseka
9. Cust
10. Marty
11. Guacamole
12. Siro
13. Jake
14. Foran
15. Keppie
16. Sione Fainu
17. Garner or Jetski

Not sure what des will do with Foran. Im pretty sure he will start in the 6... but who knows
Add in Tupouniua... That's a quality side
 

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If Easts want to keep him there’s no chance we are getting him. I’d love to be wrong here tho
Yeah agree , not many clubs can take $200k from their cap for a $750k player.

That’s how they do it of course and always have space available for the likes of SBW.

And you are 100% right if they still want him we have zero chance ( unless maybe it’s not about $$$$$ which is highly unlikely ).
 

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