The Guthersation

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  1. globaleagle

    By:globaleagleJun 13, 2019
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    Brushing our teeth is sooooo hard, I wish someone could do it for us.


    *wonders why effort is lacking on field*

    lol..cough
     
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    • Bearfax

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      Very amusing Who but the fact is the only other explanation was through news items suggesting he wanted to play full back or wanted to play under Arthur. Always thought that an unlikely explanation given Manly had already signed Turbo for that position and Gutho signed AFTER the Trbojevics signed. I hear no comments from the Sea Eagles admin to refute that claim and Gutho wasn't saying it to knock Manly but only to say that is what happens behind the scenes in the game as a whole. Don't recall him every bad mouthing Manly and this comment was an aside comparing it to the Mannah issue. For that reason I tend to believe him.
       
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      By:The WhoJun 13, 2019
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      To be serious for a moment.
      It's been pointed out in another thread that an NRL contract is between two parties and both have to agree if that contract is to be broken. So Why didn't Gutherson stay and play with the club "he grew up wanting to be a one-club player for"? He should have backed himself to make top grade. He was obviously being paid well for a young guy. Even if he had to fight his way through the grades he would have had a point to prove, and the club wouldn't want to have a highly paid player under performing so he'd be given every chance to succeed.
       
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        He's a young bloke who is being told he's not wanted. The fact he signed the contract shows he wanted to stay. Digging his heels in may not have been in his best interests if he wasn't wanted. Look at Hastings. His career was being threatened and he decided to accept an alternative offer with a team that wanted him and was assured of a first grade placement. Don't know about you but if I wasn't wanted in a club and another came along and offered a deal worth taking, I would accept it without a moments thought. Why stick around if the club starts playing games with you such as demoting you. Yes the money was there, but another club offered money, a definite first grade spot and he was wanted. No way would I stick around where I wasn't wanted even if I preferred to stay. If you chose to stay under those circumstances Who I wonder how happy you would be. Money isn't everything and loyalty is a two way street, and the Manly of that time was showing Gutho that he was just a commodity to be traded off..
         
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        By:Class of 96Jun 13, 2019
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        Although Bear, Gutho seemed to have overlooked that in his shenanigans with Parra before he signed an extension.
         
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        By:pt73Jun 13, 2019
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        I’m sure it was a very professional and sterile environment ......... :think:
         
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          Not at all. He knows he's wanted there, he feels a certain loyalty to that. He also has a sense of his worth, and don't forget most of that was done by his manager, not Gutherson. I didn't say money is meaningless. What I'm saying is that it is not all there is. His negotiations with Parra is really very typical of how negotiations are played out. Both parties make ambit claims, one too high one to low and they negotiate until they find middle ground. That is fundamental to all negotiations in business. Having been a union head I am most familiar with that process. Standard practice. Its just that the media made a big play of it.

          Concerning his comments about what happened at Manly,.lets put it this way as to why I think he's telling it as it was. Lies are usually reflected by vested interests, by trying to gain something and not necessarily a physical element. He may be bitter with Manly for what they did. But what he said had no apparent gain to be achieved other than to show such things happen in League, that happened to him and now to Mannah. His primary intent seemed to show he understood Mannah's point of view. Nothing else is gained. It seemed to me that he was simply demonstrating how its played out behind the scenes.
           
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          • Go manly

            By:Go manlyJun 13, 2019
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            It will never take off at Souffs
            Maybe a quick gum wash and rinse would be more appealing
             
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              Gutho prefers Arthur to put some whitener on his teeth
               
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