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Definitely seems to be something about the physical maturity of these young players with many copping injuries, some reoccurring, until 24, 25 years old.
2 that are always a good test case are Benji Marshall and Sonny Boy...
Also from memory Greg Inglis had frequent leg injuries when he was young. I suppose the most outstanding talents are the ones who get promoted to top grade at young ages, and hence exposed to more extreme physical pressure.
 
I didn't say it was a good idea . I was simply making the point (again) that he can call himself a fullback all he likes ... it is irrelevant .... a club is only going to pay him what they think he is worth .... and play him in any position they want to .... and he will go to whichever club offers him the most coin .......

Yep. And the club that offers the most money will not be Manly.

Would Gutherson prefer to settle in the position of fullback? Yes

Do clubs see him as a fullback? Yes

Are there clubs looking for a fullback? Yes

Do clubs allocate more cap space for spine positions like fullback? Yes

Do Manly have cap space to pay a fullback a typical fullback wage to take up a position at centre? No

Is the mole a phoney? Yes

Therefore, are Manly likely to (a) have cap space and (b) offer Gutho his preferred position? No. He will not be at Manly when his current deal ends.
 
Yep. And the club that offers the most money will not be Manly.

Would Gutherson prefer to settle in the position of fullback? Yes

Do clubs see him as a fullback? Yes

Are there clubs looking for a fullback? Yes

Do clubs allocate more cap space for spine positions like fullback? Yes

Do Manly have cap space to pay a fullback a typical fullback wage to take up a position at centre? No

Is the mole a phoney? Yes

Therefore, are Manly likely to (a) have cap space and (b) offer Gutho his preferred position? No. He will not be at Manly when his current deal ends.

Only thing I would disagree with is that clubs see him as a fullback ... I am certain they see him as capable of playing fullback ... I have my doubts that any club see him as the fullback they need to have ....

My own opinion is that he is a very good player in many positions ... but a "great" player in none .... possibly the world's best backline utility ... can play FG standard at fullback, wing, centre, 58 and half ....

Would I like him back at Manly ... yes . .. but on coin closer to $400k than $500k ...
 
Uh oh @wombatgc is going to go mad at youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!
Haha. I had an apprentice years later who used to bait me with the word, cause he knew I'd bite. He wasn't to smart though, cause everytime he did, I'd give him shiit cleanup jobs to do after production and the rest of us had gone home.(this was in the 80s/early nineties were you did what you were told, cause you were allowed to threaten violence and carry it through as well......then bloody OHS came in and stuffed that). F@ck I'd be in gaol if I tried that shiit now. Pity the bosses now, all they've got is verbal and written warnings in their arsenal.
 
Haha. I had an apprentice years later who used to bait me with the word, cause he knew I'd bite. He wasn't to smart though, cause everytime he did, I'd give him shiit cleanup jobs to do after production and the rest of us had gone home.(this was in the 80s/early nineties were you did what you were told, cause you were allowed to threaten violence and carry it through as well......then bloody OHS came in and stuffed that). F@ck I'd be in gaol if I tried that shiit now. Pity the bosses now, all they've got is verbal and written warnings in their arsenal.

My ex calls them biscuits ...
 
Yep. And the club that offers the most money will not be Manly.

Would Gutherson prefer to settle in the position of fullback? Yes

Do clubs see him as a fullback? Yes

Are there clubs looking for a fullback? Yes

Do clubs allocate more cap space for spine positions like fullback? Yes

Do Manly have cap space to pay a fullback a typical fullback wage to take up a position at centre? No

Is the mole a phoney? Yes

Therefore, are Manly likely to (a) have cap space and (b) offer Gutho his preferred position? No. He will not be at Manly when his current deal ends.
Plus he has lost at least a yard in speed since his second ACL and is one more acl away from retirement home

Too much of a risk to pay big money for him

Prefer money spent on buying Aitken
 
Scones as in gone.
I had a tafe teacher (just for a bit of nostalgia....his name was Terry Cross ex- Tigers player in the 70s), anyway, I was an apprentice
at the time, and anyone that referred to them as scones as in loans would be docked points on their assessments. He gave us a history lesson from the15th century British Empire as to the origins of scones.
I had this hard bastard boss back at the bakery. If he overheard a customer ask for them the other way,he’d yell out we don’t make ‘em. Customer would then point to said product in the window, depending on time, he’d either just yell out the right pronunciation before he’d let the shop chicks sell it to them OR if they were unlucky, he’d go to the front counter and give them a history lesson on the origins of the word. The fact that he looked and acted like JWH, no one gave him shiit, including my 80kgs of wringing wet dogs body.
So there you go @globaleagle , I bet you’re glad you asked that question.:tmi::lipssealed::lipssealed::lipssealed:
As you're an expert on the subject matter: Which is better/correct?
Cream then Jam on top or Jam then Cream on top?
 
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As you're an expert on the subject matter: Which is better/correct?
Cream then Jam on top or Jam then Cream on top?

But but but, how does one successfully spread Jam when there's cream already covering the scone?

Is this some super elite way based solely on the fact it's much harder to do...hence it's the Butler's job?

P.S. - I just had a bagel.
P.P.S - Go Manly.
 
I'm sure we could spend the coin needed for Gutho much more wisely, preferably on specialist position players.
Watching the young Sharks kid walk past Gutho last weekend said plenty for me.

No thanks.
 
I'm sure we could spend the coin needed for Gutho much more wisely, preferably on specialist position players.
Watching the young Sharks kid walk past Gutho last weekend said plenty for me.

No thanks.

I agree. Gutherson is a very good player but he's been prone to injury and I think he's lost a couple of yards of pace already and its going to continue. Fierce competitor, great clubman and yes he's been a loss & sorry we let him go BUT he aint worth the sort of dollars that's being bandied about to entice him back.
 
Yep. And the club that offers the most money will not be Manly.

Would Gutherson prefer to settle in the position of fullback? Yes

Do clubs see him as a fullback? Yes

Are there clubs looking for a fullback? Yes

Do clubs allocate more cap space for spine positions like fullback? Yes

Do Manly have cap space to pay a fullback a typical fullback wage to take up a position at centre? No

Is the mole a phoney? Yes

Therefore, are Manly likely to (a) have cap space and (b) offer Gutho his preferred position? No. He will not be at Manly when his current deal ends.
So that would probably rule out Hoppa as well?
I would like him back...
 

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