The Daly Cherrygraph

[manly al]

Quite obvious that D C E wishes to go at least another season in the N R L so really can not see such a big issue with just the one season extension with Manly . .
The purported 600 or 650 K offer would hardly or realistically seem in the ball park though , Maybe something like 750 k in the circumstances but who really knows .
just too many variables , 2007 seems a fair way off in his current circumstances and Joey Walsh even on one Flegg appearance looks like he could progress quite quickly to a higher level .
Turbo and Jake would also be anticipated to be on less amounts , again in the present circumstances with any ongoing or approaching contract deals so can not see how the D C E situation is much different .
Probably will have to start to accommodate guys like Large , [ think that he is only on a 2 year deal ] quite soon as well

 

[Ohgeez]

He should take the $500k if he wants a better chance to win another premiership. Free up some space to try sign someone off contract in the forwards like Davvy Moale, Josiah Pahulu, Harrison Hasset, Jamal Shibasaki etc

 

[BOZO]

If he really wants another $1m so badly that he'll move his family at this point in his career, end up at a worse club like Dolphins/Titans/Dragons etc and potentially stain his legacy here, then let him do it.

I have to disagree with you or any one that thinks this way feathered friend

There have only been a handful of Manly Premiership Winning halfbacks and the Legendary DCE is one of them who has for ever Stamped his name in our clubs proud Premiership Winning History which can never ever be stained .
It is not about if DCE wants another Million . Its is all about what he is really worth .
The very Fact is that There is a shortage of Quality halves and if Dylan Brown can command 1.3 mil a season , DCE at 1 mil is big Discount price for any club that has no Marque half back
Marquee halves are as rare as Eagles Teeth.
If DCE Leaves Manly he will leave the club with the Wooden spoon Tiger credential Brooks and raw and unproven lower grade halves .

The Moral of the Mestrov Story
You get what you pay for
and if you do not come to terms
Your club pays for it in the end .
As DJ Trump would say to Mestrov
You dont have the Cards Tony , You dont have the cards mate .
DCE has the Cards
Give him the Money

This is Reality Folks
Real Life in the NRL
Real players
Real contracts
This Bloke is worth 1.3 Mil a season on the current stock change
But he aint no DCE

 

[jbb/james]

I dont have a problem with DCE resigning, but he needs to be fazed out of the halfback spot whenever possible. Not from day one , but we need to start planning next season at some stage blooding new players
He needs to be our next Paul Shaw maybe but this year and 2 more as halfback
MUMMA MIA

In my View the biggest Misconception about DCE is that he is A dominate half. he is certainly a dominant player with the number 7 on his back, but he doesn't own the specific roles that make the number 7 the holy grail, and as valuable as they say. IMO

Humphreys deal reported on NRL 360 , @150 k now and next season 200, and fainu seemed to be the plan, brooksy the overlap came later but its a good deal. Both gone, no plan
I get the Fainu situation was multi faceted but thats the contract game in the NRL. Nothing amazingly unusual. Still no plan though

Now its “someday babies” walsh and Large and our hands are tied until they are ready. Dont want to sell them short . If they do mature early , what does that do , do they get bored

DCE really is an awesome footy player but if he is controlling the gameplan it will never change . Its either run by him or planned to suit him.

Reasonable priced 14 maybe, play less minutes, get a couple of years out of it probably.
CHERRIES ON ! CHERRIES ON

Great back up
Id suggest he isnt in the need to amp up his body contact for less cash but that doesnt need to be Manlys priority

IF you look at how the 30 took place looking for fwds. No probs needed them
But no spot for humphreys rather than coin , probably stems from a very surpring 2 year deal for chez with plenty of time banked. Tell me it wasnt surprising

That and the enigma that is Arthur, how much freight is he on. A lot of Bad luck about Arf and he has a whiff of the lawman about him, struggling to find a position despite oozing in some of the resilience **** we lack

We need a rebuild, dare I say the 5 year plan but its never happening under the same structure, gameplan , system or spine , whatever we want to all it

Someone hack gus goulds laptop and look for the file 5 year plan please.

Recruitment and retention is right on show ATM

Grab ya clipboards , ya stat sheets and ya numbered jersey because folks, the next few years is being played out NOW it seems

 

[BOZO]

I dont have a problem with DCE resigning, but he needs to be fazed out of the halfback spot whenever possible. Not from day one , but we need to start planning next season at some stage blooding new players

No decision made comes without consequences.
Faze out DCE and we faze out our Premiership Winning Window
Look out side the Window without DCE and what do we see?
We see Brooks that came from the Wooden spoon Tigers Nursery to take charge and nurture our raw and unproven number 7s .
Apart from that the NRL quality Halfback Cupboard is empty

 

[sheridanstand78]

Id offer DCE a one year deal say worth around 800K with a 1 year option all going well, Its important to retain him as he is our biggest creator or tries and it gives us time to groom a replacement in Joey Walsh who on first impression looks like a super talent.

 

[IQofalimabean]

No decision made comes without consequences.
Faze out DCE and we faze out our Premiership Winning Window
Look out side the Window without DCE and what do we see?
We see Brooks that came from the Wooden spoon Tigers Nursery to take charge and nurture our raw and unproven number 7s .
Apart from that the NRL quality Halfback Cupboard is empty

Despite his age people still compare him to Cleary. Also, one of the few origin level players we have. The fact that Manly haven't built a decent forward pack for him is a shame.

 

[eaglebuzz]

If he wants to close out his career with a premiership then he should play for $200k. It's not like he needs the cash at this point, and he'll move into a lucrative media or coaching role after he retires anyway. Play for unders and give the team the room on the cap we need to be competitive.

 

[jbb/james]

No decision made comes without consequences.
Faze out DCE and we faze out our Premiership Winning Window
Look out side the Window without DCE and what do we see?
We see Brooks that came from the Wooden spoon Tigers Nursery to take charge and nurture our raw and unproven number 7s .
Apart from that the NRL quality Halfback Cupboard is empty

How many years of unfulfilled window talk for us to admit the window may be a mirage .

How does one quantify a widow without results. Hope, belief ,

It is indeed perspective,

I did mention the cupboard and why our is empty in a roundabout way

 

[BOZO]

Despite his age people still compare him to Cleary. Also, one of the few origin level players we have. The fact that Manly haven't built a decent forward pack for him is a shame.

With a descent coach and a Descent forward pack behind him
DCE left Cleary behind at the elite SOO level when he captained his team to Winning Series
DCE has the runs on the board and also has the dominant Cards on the negotiation table
Show him the money that he is worth and stop wasting his precious time
DCE's credentials are not Negotiable !

 

[jbb/james]

Despite his age people still compare him to Cleary. Also, one of the few origin level players we have. The fact that Manly haven't built a decent forward pack for him is a shame.

We did, we once had marty, afb, manase, api, thompson, jake and lane. Think we finished 15 th,
Honestly he just need too many moving parts to really be succesful. That why he is great in origin.everyone is awesome. Just not clubland reality

 

[BOZO]

How many years of unfulfilled window talk for us to admit the window may be a mirage .
How does one quantify a widow without results. Hope, belief ,
It is indeed perspective,
I did mention the cupboard and why our is empty in a roundabout way

Call it a Premiership Winning Window
Call it what you like feathered friend
The Fact is if you do not have a proven winning halfback Calling the shots
Your team is shot

 

[rj90]

At the end of the day, the NRL will not register a contract for DCE at $200K or $500K. It's not a realistic value for him. I think something in the vicinity of $750K - $800K is more realistic.

 

[BOZO]

Nothing personal
But this bloke is not the answer to a DCE departure

 

[KNUCKLES]

I wonder what the chooks were paying cronk at the back end of his career? Probably wasn't even 800k.

 

[Ohgeez]

At the end of the day, the NRL will not register a contract for DCE at $200K or $500K. It's not a realistic value for him. I think something in the vicinity of $750K - $800K is more realistic.

Why is it not realistic? Ben Hunt is a year younger & signed for $550k at broncos this year because he wants to win a comp. He is still a current rep player & also plays in the halves, no difference to DCE

 

[Rafferty]

I wonder what the chooks were paying cronk at the back end of his career? Probably wasn't even 800k.

Well perhaps not on the books…..

 

[Tragic Eagle]

Hunt is on 500K. The club already set DCE up financially for life. IMO no player is worth 1 million bucks at age 36 and beyond. Looks like he will be following Fulton, Vautin & Cronk to the Roosters for his final contract. So be it.

 

[frank stokes]

Almost to 500 pages….

 

[frank stokes]

SilverTails will literally explode if Chez signs elsewhere and wins a premiership…

I can’t see him going to the dolphins but a rorters or dogs offer may be entertained (and would be a horrendous outcome)

I am starting to get the feeling that we may actually see Chez in a different jersey next year as he is playing as well as ever and this would never have gotten to this point if the club actually wanted to keep him…