The Anthony Seibold Grievances MEGA THREAD

[Mark from Brisbane]

Lol, fox are really struggling just now trying to invent some controversies. Yeah Arthur got them to grand final, only took him 10 years and a wooden spoon, and then they're straight back to the bottom!

Yes on the back ( mainly ) of one players stellar year.

Overall he’s a flop.

Those suggesting he should replace the current coach are having too much ju ju juice.

Not that the current coach is a super coach ( far from it ) but if you are going to sack the coach you at least have to have a better one in the wings.

Just ask Parramatta how many super coaches are lining up for their job.

 

[Stuey Davis’s Socks]

Lol, fox are really struggling just now trying to invent some controversies. Yeah Arthur got them to grand final, only took him 10 years and a wooden spoon, and then they're straight back to the bottom!

Yes, BA managed to get that scummy Parra side to a grand final. That’s actually over-achieving IMHO.

 

[Tragic Eagle]

Interesting Arthur hasn’t signed with the English Club yet. Hmm.

 

[Rocky]

Yes, BA managed to get that scummy Parra side to a grand final. That’s actually over-achieving IMHO.

I agree I think the year Parra made the GF was a massive overachievement.

I would normally give Arthur a tick for getting them there, but I felt like they were "lucky" that year - they lost to Penrith in the first week and then got lucky by having to face the 8th-placed Raiders in the second week and then they squeaked past a young and overachieving Cowboys to make the GF.

Then they lost to Penrith in the GF pretty easily.

So yes, they made the GF and the Arthur fans can cling to that. But it's not like they beat a really good team to get there.

And the other 9 years he was there wasn't spectacular.

Arthur is no supercoach and a marginal upgrade over Seibold at best.

 

[jbb/james]

Brad arthurs best attribute is it seems players love him
The hope he adds a couple of players to the squad is somewhat behind the idea i thought as we seem to struggle to get talent

 

[Top End Eagle]

Yeah I wasn’t critical of the performance on Saturday night.I thought 50 was on the cards prior to kick off,given the outs.I think the issue was the team selection and the way they played.The game was there for the taking.Souths had more head scratching out of that game than Manly.

You should have been. It was diabolical.

It was stupid predictable continuous crap from a coach and a number six who looked robotic.

Not starting Humphries because he's off to Souths and saying **** like 'its a free throw at the stumps,' is ducking amature hour ****.

Melbourne, roosters or Penrith would never have 'a free throw at the stumps'. They'd have an expectation of winning.

Get rid of Seibold he's not a winner.

 

[Pete W]

I agree I think the year Parra made the GF was a massive overachievement.

I would normally give Arthur a tick for getting them there, but I felt like they were "lucky" that year - they lost to Penrith in the first week and then got lucky by having to face the 8th-placed Raiders in the second week and then they squeaked past a young and overachieving Cowboys to make the GF.

Then they lost to Penrith in the GF pretty easily.

So yes, they made the GF and the Arthur fans can cling to that. But it's not like they beat a really good team to get there.

And the other 9 years he was there wasn't spectacular.

Arthur is no supercoach and a marginal upgrade over Seibold at best.

Whilst true, they were also the only team to pretty regularly knock off Penrith at their peak during several seasons. Pretty formidable team, that was consistently top 4. He also assembled quite a roster, so players wanted to come play for him.

If we sacked a proven Premiership winning coach for Seibold, then sacking Seibold for Arthur seems a little more like steadying the ship, and not the other way around. Not saying this is the right move, but I would certainly feel a lot more comfortable with Arthur at the helm than Seibold.

But I'm still hopeful Seibold can produce something this back half of 2024, and finally silence all his many many doubters (of which, none bigger than myself). We are at the cusp, a very solid roster, a relatively soft draw, and now in his second year. As I've said before, if he can't steer us to the 8 from here, then he's useless. No way Arthur misses this when in the same position

 

[Pete W]

You should have been. It was diabolical.

It was stupid predictable continuous crap from a coach and a number six who looked robotic.

Not starting Humphries because he's off to Souths and saying ** like 'its a free throw at the stumps,' is ducking amature hour **.

Melbourne, roosters or Penrith would never have 'a free throw at the stumps'. They'd have an expectation of winning.

Get rid of Seibold he's not a winner.

Agree with your conclusions, but Lawton has been picked every week after signing with the Cowboys, so your reasoning behind Humphreys' non-selection is erroneous.

Also, missing most of your first string team is a pretty fair call for the "free throw" business, but unfortunately we couldn't fire a single shot - Brooks was massively underwhelming in this department. My point, is that after all the crap I've seen from Seibold these last 18 months, our last game was not something I will hold against him. With the exception of maybe 2-3 master coaches in Australia, I doubt anyone else could have come back with a win

 

[Rocky]

Whilst true, they were also the only team to pretty regularly knock off Penrith at their peak during several seasons. Pretty formidable team, that was consistently top 4. He also assembled quite a roster, so players wanted to come play for him.

If we sacked a proven Premiership winning coach for Seibold, then sacking Seibold for Arthur seems a little more like steadying the ship, and not the other way around. Not saying this is the right move, but I would certainly feel a lot more comfortable with Arthur at the helm than Seibold.

But I'm still hopeful Seibold can produce something this back half of 2024, and finally silence all his many many doubters (of which, none bigger than myself). We are at the cusp, a very solid roster, a relatively soft draw, and now in his second year. As I've said before, if he can't steer us to the 8 from here, then he's useless. No way Arthur misses this when in the same position

I'm ok with Arthur replacing Seibold if Manly misses the 8 this year...i just don't think it would be a massive upgrade.

 

[BOZO]

Yes on the back ( mainly ) of one players stellar year. Overall he’s a flop.
Those suggesting he should replace the current coach are having too much ju ju juice.
Not that the current coach is a super coach ( far from it ) but if you are going to sack the coach you at least have to have a better one in the wings.

Just ask Parramatta how many super coaches are lining up for their job.

Perspective time ...

If Arthur is a flop for making a grand final then what does it make other coaches that never achieved that feat ?

Those that are happy with us underachieving and are suggesting we keep investing in the underachievers are out of line and are sniffing too many white lines

Speaking of Super coaches . Why have we never ever made a Bid for Bennet ?
Dont worry about asking Parra . Go straight to the source and Ask Madge

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Perspective time ...

If Arthur is a flop for making a grand final then what does it make other coaches that never achieved that feat ?

Those that are happy with us underachieving and are suggesting we keep investing in the underachievers are out of line and are sniffing too many white lines

Speaking of Super coaches . Why have we never ever made a Bid for Bennet ?
Dont worry about asking Parra . Go straight to the source and Ask Madge

Largely Parramatta made that GF on the back of Hayne ,who had an amazing year & much like we made the qualifying final v South’s in 2021 on the back of an exceptional period from Tommy Turbo.

Yea making a GF is an achievement but no one remembers the losers, only the winners.

I stand by my opinion that Arthur is a flop and wouldn’t be an improvement on Seibold.

 

[Will on the hill]

Largely Parramatta made that GF on the back of Hayne ,who had an amazing year & much like we made the qualifying final v South’s in 2021 on the back of an exceptional period from Tommy Turbo.

Yea making a GF is an achievement but no one remembers the losers, only the winners.

I stand by my opinion that Arthur is a flop and wouldn’t be an improvement on Seibold.

Think you're mixing up 2009 and 2022. Arthur never coached Hayne in a GF.

 

[The '47ers]

I can see sense in the Arthur taking the Perth job, it does all line up nicely for him from the stories I've read. His wife is from Perth, still has family there etc etc new team etc etc.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Think you're mixing up 2009 and 2022. Arthur never coached Hayne in a GF.

Are yes I might be too , thanks for pointing that out.

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

Are yes I might be too , thanks for pointing that out.

Seniors’ moment?😉

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Seniors’ moment?😉

Yep

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

Yep

I’m with you.

 

[LeonardCohen]

Whilst true, they were also the only team to pretty regularly knock off Penrith at their peak during several seasons. Pretty formidable team, that was consistently top 4. He also assembled quite a roster, so players wanted to come play for him.

If we sacked a proven Premiership winning coach for Seibold, then sacking Seibold for Arthur seems a little more like steadying the ship, and not the other way around. Not saying this is the right move, but I would certainly feel a lot more comfortable with Arthur at the helm than Seibold.

But I'm still hopeful Seibold can produce something this back half of 2024, and finally silence all his many many doubters (of which, none bigger than myself). We are at the cusp, a very solid roster, a relatively soft draw, and now in his second year. As I've said before, if he can't steer us to the 8 from here, then he's useless. No way Arthur misses this when in the same position

Arthur has coached an additional six years on top of Seibs and has a percentage of 51% to Seibs 45%. I agree he also seemed to attract talent and get his side into the top 4. Then you factor in the side were winning regular spoons until he came along and lifted them into finals contention.

The other side of the equation is he himself won a legitimate spoon without help from an interim coach, and his sides went through regular slumps where they conceded over 50 pointsin matches. He is no defensive specialist and seems to wear down the players mental resolve with too much intensity.

So yeah, I think he is a slight upgrade without being the second coming of Christ.

 

[BOZO]

So yeah, I think he is a slight upgrade without being the second coming of Christ.

Speaking of Christ
All coaches can be born again when they start Winning Again
When one wins a Grand final for Manly . All their losing sins are forgiven

 

[BOZO]

Largely Parramatta made that GF on the back of Hayne ,who had an amazing year & much like we made the qualifying final v South’s in 2021 on the back of an exceptional period from Tommy Turbo.

Yea making a GF is an achievement but no one remembers the losers, only the winners.

I stand by my opinion that Arthur is a flop and wouldn’t be an improvement on Seibold.

Hayne did not play in the parra 2022 grand final and so you are being irrelevant here

in 2021 we made the qualifying grand final and not the grand final and you are not comparing apples with apples and so you are being irrelevant here

You agree that making a grand final is an achievement but you say that Arthur is a flop for making a grand final and again you are being irrelevant here

You have the right to stand by your irrelevant opinion
As usual It has been a pleasurer exchanging posts with you
Have a great day feathered friend