The Anthony Seibold Grievances MEGA THREAD

[The Royal Soup]

Seibs is a joke

i gave him a chance but he is cooked!!!

what a joke of a press conference last night

 

[Brocky]

I think Steve Remouf is right about Seibold now!

 

[TheSoaringEagle2023]

Can't wait for tonight's words of wisdom.

Perhaps Spoonbolds turn to be an aspirational coach.

H

 

[ManlyTragic]

The only people that thought that we were going to win last night were posters on this site! The bookies had us at long odds!

Maybe some on here need to lower their expectations!

Just sayin’

 

[voicefromthehill]

Just because our coach doesn’t lose his **** in a press conference does not immediately mean he doesn’t behind closed doors.

So many people that have never been in any form of management (that is what a coach is), fails to recognise there are multiple management approaches.

And to bring this to a head, we now have an open call to sack the coach and to drop approx 1/3 of our current roster. Damn I’m glad none of you are a manager of any business otherwise you would doom your business to failure and bankruptcy with such emotive and reactive approaches to problems in business (yes it is a business)

 

[The Who]

Do we attribute some of the team's terrible performances to the new coach of Illawarra?
Just wondering if Boldy deserves all of the criticism when we are supposed to have a coaching partnership . . .

 

[TheSoaringEagle2023]

So far the recruitment decisions appear anything but master stroke decisions. I mean woods ( who could not make the dragons FG team this year ( dragons are running last) and young Arthur who appears not much better than young Johns who was also brought to the club under Seibs tenure.
I think Weekes is more of a back up half than he is fullback. Garrick should be the back up for Tom.

With the money used to buy Arthur, Johns, Woods , you would think we could have bought 1 semi decent player.

 

[Ron E. Gibbs]

Do we attribute some of the team's terrible performances to the new coach of Illawarra?
Just wondering if Boldy deserves all of the criticism when we are supposed to have a coaching partnership . . .

Yeah, it seems like Flanagan is regularly absolved of all blame. That's the beauty of being an assistant coach: when the team wins, you take all the glory; when they lose, it's all the head coach's fault.

I know it's been said that Flanno's gig at Manly helped him to land the gig at the Dragons, but if they hired him based on the results of this year's Manly side, they are even crazier than I thought.

 

[Tragic Eagle]

Flanagan has walked into a fire storm at St Merge. I am surprised by some of our performances this year considering the coaching staff we have. We need a cleanout to steady the ship.

 

[Jerry1]

Bump...

 

[The '47ers]

Bump...

 

[Nordburg]

With the money used to buy Arthur, Johns, Woods , you would think we could have bought 1 semi decent player.

Woods cost nothing,Johns would be on minimum and Arthur wouldn’t be on much more than that.So do tell us who they could of picked up that would solve problems,cost barely more than minimum and could move mid season?As evidenced by how the Dolphins struggled to get depth,there wasn’t and isn’t many decent players on the market the past year due to clubs tying them up on longer deals to avoid Redcliffe nabbing them.This year was always going to be a bridging season for Seibold to sort out the players he wants to keep or let go.This time next year is when he should be judged,given he’s basically dealing with Des’ squad

 

[Rocky]

This squad has played similarly under Seibold as it did under Des. Shown flashes of top 4 play but so many undisciplined and lackluster performances.

Besides bringing in Bellamy or Bennett i wouldn't know who could improve this current squad. Even a top echelon coach like Robinson is showing he can't turn around the Roosters right now.

I'm out of ideas but think the problem is more the squad than the coach.

 

[TheSoaringEagle2023]

Woods cost nothing,Johns would be on minimum and Arthur wouldn’t be on much more than that.So do tell us who they could of picked up that would solve problems,cost barely more than minimum and could move mid season?As evidenced by how the Dolphins struggled to get depth,there wasn’t and isn’t many decent players on the market the past year due to clubs tying them up on longer deals to avoid Redcliffe nabbing them.This year was always going to be a bridging season for Seibold to sort out the players he wants to keep or let go.This time next year is when he should be judged,given he’s basically dealing with Des’ squad

Note the words "could have" and "semi decent", which doesn't imply a guarantee of sorts that better players were available, but more the point that 1 player who's cumulative value of those 3 players might have been better based on what the market dictates. But you say he's dealing with Des's squad, yet Seibold's first signing was Johns who was a flop...then you want to judge him until he has the roster he wants. Hasn't his time with the Broncos taught you anything? If anything it means that he's not a good coach regardless of whether the roster his or not.
Seems like you want to keep getting your fingers burnt.

 

[Eagles4Life]

This squad has played similarly under Seibold as it did under Des. Shown flashes of top 4 play but so many undisciplined and lackluster performances.

Besides bringing in Bellamy or Bennett i wouldn't know who could improve this current squad. Even a top echelon coach like Robinson is showing he can't turn around the Roosters right now.

I'm out of ideas but think the problem is more the squad than the coach.

It's more than the coach or the squad. It's the club. The club is a basketcase. When the team has performed above expectations since 2014, it's been in spite of the club, not because of it. This is because the "club" has minimal identifiable old-school Manly culture underpinning its foundations.

Mestrov is doing his best to rebuild the club. However, whilst it remains in Scott Penn's ownership, I think any temporary rebuild will be illusionary. Penn has sucked the life out of this club, just like the "weak gutted vulture person" he actually is.

 

[TheSoaringEagle2023]

It's more than the coach or the squad. It's the club. The club is a basketcase. When the team has performed above expectations since 2014, it's been in spite of the club, not because of it. The club has minimal identifiable old-school Manly culture underpinning its foundations.

Mestrov is doing his best to rebuild the club. However, whilst it remains in Scott Penn's ownership, I think any temporary rebuild will be illusionary. Penn has sucked the life out of this club, just like the "weak gutted vulture person" he is.

 

[Ryan]

Not gonna lie, I thought things would be different / better after Des, but yeah.....

I also thought Flannagan, Siebold, Dymock might attract a decent player, but alas, our signings have been .... ummm .... can't think of the word tbh.

 

[Eagles4Life]

Not gonna lie, I thought things would be different / better after Des, but yeah.....

I also thought Flannagan, Siebold, Dymock might attract a decent player, but alas, our signings have been .... ummm .... can't think of the word tbh.

Dregs @Ryan That's all we have picked up so far. I think our salary cap situation for 2023 was even worse than many of us thought it was. It was rumoured that it was pretty bad, but so far it looks like Seibold has had no choice but to contract the leftovers and the dregs......

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

He has North Sydneyfied the joint. He does hail from Snives, or thereabouts.

 

[Eagle 1]

Flanagan has walked into a fire storm at St Merge. I am surprised by some of our performances this year considering the coaching staff we have. We need a cleanout to steady the ship.

Cleanouts sre easier said than done, firstly, you have to wait till their contracts expire or the other alternative is to piss off the player by trying to shop him around. Or you can go.50 50 with another club to take on said player, not very popular with fans. But mostly, you have to take your medicine for all the choices you've made, just like the rest have.