bones said:Moops said:As if Hasler would really give a rats about 09/10 after premierships in 08/11. I wouldn't...2-0
And it is very hard to get players up for a back to back tilt. Not even the Storm have managed it...
You're missing the point again. Toovey's first year was an attempt at taking a team to back to back as well. That's why we are saying give him a chance and to give the Toovey bashing a rest.
Garts said:Oh dear, it is going to get ugly in here if we do not win it this year.
me tooShoe1 said:I'm with you bones
Get with the program nicci - blame Greenberg 😀niccipops said:So our options as fans if we don't win the big one are: blame the refs,
blame the coach, bag specific players.
My favourite option and only one I've ever used is blame the refs.
SeaEagleRock8 said:That reminds me kingyfan, we've gone the whole year without our co-captain and forward leader.
Good point. Yes I will.niccipops said:Get with the program nicci - blame Greenberg 😀
kingyfan said:Hasler won the comp in 2008 so at least he had the runs on the board to forgive a bad 2009 and 2010. He then won again in 2011.
If we don't win this year then we must be certainties next year.
bones said:The question has been asked many times, but still no reply from the Toovey bashers.
What are the excuses for Hasler failing in 2009 and 2010 with the strongest roster in the NRL?
Knocked out in week one of the finals both years. Failing to score a point in the 2010 match. Only madevthe finals because storm werevstripped of points.
I'm keen to hear the reasons as Tooveys record in 2012 and 2013 beats those two years by quite a margin.
Ralphie said:bones said:The question has been asked many times, but still no reply from the Toovey bashers.
What are the excuses for Hasler failing in 2009 and 2010 with the strongest roster in the NRL?
Knocked out in week one of the finals both years. Failing to score a point in the 2010 match. Only madevthe finals because storm werevstripped of points.
I'm keen to hear the reasons as Tooveys record in 2012 and 2013 beats those two years by quite a margin.
It's funny how people around here jump to conclusions. I am one who has expressed concern about the big games record, but at no stage will you find me having suggested he be sacked. Can't we have a debate without it degenerating and people jumping to conclusions.
To answer your question Bones.
In 2009 we had the Brett Stewart season launch debacle. It badly affected the whole playing group, but particularly Gifty. We finished 5th and then embarrassed ourselves in Melbourne in week one of the finals (I was there & copped plenty from the scum fans). The main cause for that loss was the impact on the playing group of Glen Hall's wife losing their baby the day before the game. We would have had a 2nd bite except for the ability of St George to choke that year. We did remarkably well considering the events of 2009.
In 2010 we were ravaged by injuries and suspensions and the team we fielded against St George in week one of the finals was little more than a reserve grade team.
Now back to the discussion point. Why can't we seem to win big games at the moment? I see this weekend as a "no excuses" game with us likely to be near full strength and they will be down Carney or he will be at least hobbled.
Team | P | W | L | PD | Pts |
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1 | 1 | 0 | 38 | 4 |
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2 | 2 | 0 | 16 | 4 |
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1 | 1 | 0 | 36 | 2 |
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1 | 1 | 0 | 30 | 2 |
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1 | 1 | 0 | 22 | 2 |
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1 | 1 | 0 | 8 | 2 |
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1 | 1 | 0 | 6 | 2 |
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1 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 2 |
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0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 |
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1 | 0 | 1 | -2 | 0 |
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1 | 0 | 1 | -6 | 0 |
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1 | 0 | 1 | -8 | 0 |
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2 | 0 | 2 | -16 | 0 |
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1 | 0 | 1 | -22 | 0 |
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1 | 0 | 1 | -30 | 0 |
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1 | 0 | 1 | -36 | 0 |
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1 | 0 | 1 | -38 | 0 |