The captains Role would be to adhere to their coaches philosophies and methodsAnd what would the captain’s role be?
The captains Role would be to adhere to their coaches philosophies and methodsAnd what would the captain’s role be?
This is Bellamy from last year (sure, he's not giving his players a bake but he is explicitly stating that what they dished up, was not good enough). He's balanced, reasonable, and honest. I think that's what people want from Seibs. He is constantly reminding us after every loss that 'it's a tough competition' and that the opposition 'are a good side' or 'premiership favourites for a reason' or that he 'proud' of our effort. I could be wrong, but I get the feeling he is carefully curating a narrative to paint a favourable picture.Okay I had a look at last year to see when there was a coach having a real crack at their players in a way that most on here seem to advocate.
For context there were 213 games played so lets say there were 100 or so "loser" press conferences.
From what I could see a couple from coaches who are still employed
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’So disappointed’: Payten slams lacklustre Cowboys who ‘wouldn’t beat the Temora Dragons
’So disappointed’: Payten slams lacklustre Cowboys who ‘wouldn’t beat the Temora Dragons’www.foxsports.com.au
oxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2024-newcastle-knights-adam-obrien-press-conference-takes-responsibility-manly-sea-eagles-loss-tyson-frizell/news-story/602c1e15b235d9823ce2c0f27638cf0c
While there are a couple of other from ex coaches
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What about Ricky?
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‘Boys’ performance’: Ricky unloads on ‘precious’ Raiders in furious presser takedown
‘Boys’ performance’: Ricky unloads on ‘precious’ Raiders in furious presser takedownwww.foxsports.com.au
This was the only time I could see it being reported etc.
Now lets talk Belamey. I could not see anything from last year at all
As for Bennett all i could see was this
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Bennett throws support behind Perth expansion bid as Dolphins coach torches ‘under-10s’ blunders
Bennett throws support behind Perth expansion bid as Dolphins coach torches ‘under-10s’ blunderswww.foxsports.com.au
If you look past the headline you can see it was not that much of a go
As for Ivan lets take how he is managing the first real crisis in a while
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‘What do you mean?’: Ivan’s frosty response to Nathan question as big Panthers issue exposed
‘What do you mean?’: Ivan’s frosty response to Nathan question as ugly issue exposedwww.foxsports.com.au
He has faith etc.
I get that people are not happy and want some accountability but that is just not the way almost every team works. They keep the criticism in house unless it works for them to either create a distraction or for some other reason.
Ultimately part of a NRL coaches job is to manipulate the media as much as possible. If Seibs had some out and said the performance was awful etc how many "Manly in Crisis" headlines would there have been this week? He is clearly trying to go as vanilla as possible to take the heat away from the DCE mess
He’s been like that for the whole time he’s been here!! It’s got nothing to do with the DCE thing.Okay I had a look at last year to see when there was a coach having a real crack at their players in a way that most on here seem to advocate.
For context there were 213 games played so lets say there were 100 or so "loser" press conferences.
From what I could see a couple from coaches who are still employed
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’So disappointed’: Payten slams lacklustre Cowboys who ‘wouldn’t beat the Temora Dragons
’So disappointed’: Payten slams lacklustre Cowboys who ‘wouldn’t beat the Temora Dragons’www.foxsports.com.au
oxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2024-newcastle-knights-adam-obrien-press-conference-takes-responsibility-manly-sea-eagles-loss-tyson-frizell/news-story/602c1e15b235d9823ce2c0f27638cf0c
While there are a couple of other from ex coaches
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oxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2024-brad-arthur-urged-to-shake-things-up-at-eels-parramatta-eels-is-brad-arthur-under-pressure-nrl360-rugby-league-news-reaction/news-story/82272bf483ce0ebd7d1bf91afcea2c5b
What about Ricky?
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‘Boys’ performance’: Ricky unloads on ‘precious’ Raiders in furious presser takedown
‘Boys’ performance’: Ricky unloads on ‘precious’ Raiders in furious presser takedownwww.foxsports.com.au
This was the only time I could see it being reported etc.
Now lets talk Belamey. I could not see anything from last year at all
As for Bennett all i could see was this
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Bennett throws support behind Perth expansion bid as Dolphins coach torches ‘under-10s’ blunders
Bennett throws support behind Perth expansion bid as Dolphins coach torches ‘under-10s’ blunderswww.foxsports.com.au
If you look past the headline you can see it was not that much of a go
As for Ivan lets take how he is managing the first real crisis in a while
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‘What do you mean?’: Ivan’s frosty response to Nathan question as big Panthers issue exposed
‘What do you mean?’: Ivan’s frosty response to Nathan question as ugly issue exposedwww.foxsports.com.au
He has faith etc.
I get that people are not happy and want some accountability but that is just not the way almost every team works. They keep the criticism in house unless it works for them to either create a distraction or for some other reason.
Ultimately part of a NRL coaches job is to manipulate the media as much as possible. If Seibs had some out and said the performance was awful etc how many "Manly in Crisis" headlines would there have been this week? He is clearly trying to go as vanilla as possible to take the heat away from the DCE mess
I think the DCE mess is even more of a reason to keep any criticism in houseHe’s been like that for the whole time he’s been here!! It’s got nothing to do with the DCE thing.
Maybe so, but it doesn’t change the fact that seibold is just that sort of coach. He emphasises positive over negative - symptomatic of this generation.I think the DCE mess is even more of a reason to keep any criticism in house
Drum roll ............
How Proud is Spoony going to be of the boys tonight in the pressr 😀
Can't wait 4 the clichés and excuses to be flowing.
Please can a reporter ask, Spoony, why did u pick a winger on the bench.
****, even i noticed that "really proud of the boys"what a surprise he once again said he was proud and that we were in the fight!
sack this fool
And he may be for all you know. What he says in private during the week may be completely different tk what is said in a press conference straight after the game.****, even i noticed that "really proud of the boys"
Seibold needs to be more of a hardarss in my opinion, even as a non Manly fans its frustrating to hear lol
Spot on mate. One of the many differences between Ciraldo and our pretender is attitude. I love how he made your player who showed up to training late wrestle the boys, then basically sacked your captain for being soft. You guys are up to your eyeballs in this competition and really should have beaten us in the semi last year. The Bulldogs are a hard side full of bad men. There is nothing nice about the Bulldogs. They are ruthless and deserve to be leading the competition.****, even i noticed that "really proud of the boys"
Seibold needs to be more of a hardarss in my opinion, even as a non Manly fans its frustrating to hear lol
Thanks for the words mate appreciate it, it has been quite a few long winters and a ruthless clear out of the club was needed to rebuild. Early days but I'm very impressed with Ciro and especially his attitude during press conferences. I have backed Manly 3 weeks in a row with my tipping,and I usually do back them because they can beat anyone on the day but the attack just hasn't been there lately. Injuries and media saga aside, I think the spotlight is more on Seibold now 100%. I would be throwing the chequebook at Fogarty to get him to BrookvaleSpot on mate. One of the many differences between Ciraldo and our pretender is attitude. I love how he made your player who showed up to training late wrestle the boys, then basically sacked your captain for being soft. You guys are up to your eyeballs in this competition and really should have beaten us in the semi last year. The Bulldogs are a hard side full of bad men. There is nothing nice about the Bulldogs. They are ruthless and deserve to be leading the competition.
Coaches including the likes of Bellamy have been openly critical of their teams poor performanceI get that people are not happy and want some accountability but that is just not the way almost every team works. They keep the criticism in house unless it works for them to either create a distraction or for some other reason.
Ultimately part of a NRL coaches job is to manipulate the media as much as possible.
I have backed Manly 3 weeks in a row with my tipping
Big difference with Doggies is they have a TEAM of winners from top to bottom. Gould, Ciraldo and Laundy all pulling in the same direction, and of course all the players have bought into it. We have a team of individuals with sh1t egos or pulling the joint apart, and have had since 2014.****, even i noticed that "really proud of the boys"
Seibold needs to be more of a hardarss in my opinion, even as a non Manly fans its frustrating to hear lol
Even Hasler was subdued on this 2nd stint as Manly coach. Maybe we have players who can't take criticism too well and will dob on the coach to the powers above. 🤪He’s been like that for the whole time he’s been here!! It’s got nothing to do with the DCE thing.
Wouldn’t surprise me. Emblematic of the generation really. Snowflakes.Even Hasler was subdued on this 2nd stint as Manly coach. Maybe we have players who can't take criticism too well and will dob on the coach to the powers above. 🤪
Team | P | W | D | L | PD | Pts | |
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1 | Bulldogs | 6 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 98 | 14 |
2 | Storm | 6 | 4 | 0 | 2 | 70 | 10 |
3 | Raiders | 7 | 5 | 0 | 2 | 46 | 10 |
4 | Warriors | 6 | 4 | 0 | 2 | -18 | 10 |
5 | Broncos | 7 | 4 | 0 | 3 | 54 | 8 |
6 | Sharks | 7 | 4 | 0 | 3 | 41 | 8 |
7 | Dragons | 6 | 3 | 0 | 3 | 20 | 8 |
8 | Rabbitohs | 7 | 4 | 0 | 3 | -36 | 8 |
9 | Cowboys | 6 | 3 | 0 | 3 | -42 | 8 |
10 | Tigers | 6 | 3 | 0 | 3 | 28 | 6 |
11 | Dolphins | 7 | 3 | 0 | 4 | 28 | 6 |
12 | Sea Eagles | 7 | 3 | 0 | 4 | 20 | 6 |
13 | Titans | 6 | 2 | 0 | 4 | -36 | 6 |
14 | Knights | 6 | 2 | 0 | 4 | -60 | 6 |
15 | Panthers | 7 | 2 | 0 | 5 | -10 | 4 |
16 | Roosters | 7 | 2 | 0 | 5 | -80 | 4 |
17 | Eels | 6 | 1 | 0 | 5 | -123 | 2 |