The captains Role would be to adhere to their coaches philosophies and methodsAnd what would the captain’s role be?
The captains Role would be to adhere to their coaches philosophies and methodsAnd what would the captain’s role be?
This is Bellamy from last year (sure, he's not giving his players a bake but he is explicitly stating that what they dished up, was not good enough). He's balanced, reasonable, and honest. I think that's what people want from Seibs. He is constantly reminding us after every loss that 'it's a tough competition' and that the opposition 'are a good side' or 'premiership favourites for a reason' or that he 'proud' of our effort. I could be wrong, but I get the feeling he is carefully curating a narrative to paint a favourable picture.Okay I had a look at last year to see when there was a coach having a real crack at their players in a way that most on here seem to advocate.
For context there were 213 games played so lets say there were 100 or so "loser" press conferences.
From what I could see a couple from coaches who are still employed
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’So disappointed’: Payten slams lacklustre Cowboys who ‘wouldn’t beat the Temora Dragons
’So disappointed’: Payten slams lacklustre Cowboys who ‘wouldn’t beat the Temora Dragons’www.foxsports.com.au
oxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2024-newcastle-knights-adam-obrien-press-conference-takes-responsibility-manly-sea-eagles-loss-tyson-frizell/news-story/602c1e15b235d9823ce2c0f27638cf0c
While there are a couple of other from ex coaches
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oxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2024-brad-arthur-urged-to-shake-things-up-at-eels-parramatta-eels-is-brad-arthur-under-pressure-nrl360-rugby-league-news-reaction/news-story/82272bf483ce0ebd7d1bf91afcea2c5b
What about Ricky?
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‘Boys’ performance’: Ricky unloads on ‘precious’ Raiders in furious presser takedown
‘Boys’ performance’: Ricky unloads on ‘precious’ Raiders in furious presser takedownwww.foxsports.com.au
This was the only time I could see it being reported etc.
Now lets talk Belamey. I could not see anything from last year at all
As for Bennett all i could see was this
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Bennett throws support behind Perth expansion bid as Dolphins coach torches ‘under-10s’ blunders
Bennett throws support behind Perth expansion bid as Dolphins coach torches ‘under-10s’ blunderswww.foxsports.com.au
If you look past the headline you can see it was not that much of a go
As for Ivan lets take how he is managing the first real crisis in a while
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‘What do you mean?’: Ivan’s frosty response to Nathan question as big Panthers issue exposed
‘What do you mean?’: Ivan’s frosty response to Nathan question as ugly issue exposedwww.foxsports.com.au
He has faith etc.
I get that people are not happy and want some accountability but that is just not the way almost every team works. They keep the criticism in house unless it works for them to either create a distraction or for some other reason.
Ultimately part of a NRL coaches job is to manipulate the media as much as possible. If Seibs had some out and said the performance was awful etc how many "Manly in Crisis" headlines would there have been this week? He is clearly trying to go as vanilla as possible to take the heat away from the DCE mess
He’s been like that for the whole time he’s been here!! It’s got nothing to do with the DCE thing.Okay I had a look at last year to see when there was a coach having a real crack at their players in a way that most on here seem to advocate.
For context there were 213 games played so lets say there were 100 or so "loser" press conferences.
From what I could see a couple from coaches who are still employed
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’So disappointed’: Payten slams lacklustre Cowboys who ‘wouldn’t beat the Temora Dragons
’So disappointed’: Payten slams lacklustre Cowboys who ‘wouldn’t beat the Temora Dragons’www.foxsports.com.au
oxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2024-newcastle-knights-adam-obrien-press-conference-takes-responsibility-manly-sea-eagles-loss-tyson-frizell/news-story/602c1e15b235d9823ce2c0f27638cf0c
While there are a couple of other from ex coaches
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oxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2024-brad-arthur-urged-to-shake-things-up-at-eels-parramatta-eels-is-brad-arthur-under-pressure-nrl360-rugby-league-news-reaction/news-story/82272bf483ce0ebd7d1bf91afcea2c5b
What about Ricky?
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‘Boys’ performance’: Ricky unloads on ‘precious’ Raiders in furious presser takedown
‘Boys’ performance’: Ricky unloads on ‘precious’ Raiders in furious presser takedownwww.foxsports.com.au
This was the only time I could see it being reported etc.
Now lets talk Belamey. I could not see anything from last year at all
As for Bennett all i could see was this
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Bennett throws support behind Perth expansion bid as Dolphins coach torches ‘under-10s’ blunders
Bennett throws support behind Perth expansion bid as Dolphins coach torches ‘under-10s’ blunderswww.foxsports.com.au
If you look past the headline you can see it was not that much of a go
As for Ivan lets take how he is managing the first real crisis in a while
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‘What do you mean?’: Ivan’s frosty response to Nathan question as big Panthers issue exposed
‘What do you mean?’: Ivan’s frosty response to Nathan question as ugly issue exposedwww.foxsports.com.au
He has faith etc.
I get that people are not happy and want some accountability but that is just not the way almost every team works. They keep the criticism in house unless it works for them to either create a distraction or for some other reason.
Ultimately part of a NRL coaches job is to manipulate the media as much as possible. If Seibs had some out and said the performance was awful etc how many "Manly in Crisis" headlines would there have been this week? He is clearly trying to go as vanilla as possible to take the heat away from the DCE mess
I think the DCE mess is even more of a reason to keep any criticism in houseHe’s been like that for the whole time he’s been here!! It’s got nothing to do with the DCE thing.
Maybe so, but it doesn’t change the fact that seibold is just that sort of coach. He emphasises positive over negative - symptomatic of this generation.I think the DCE mess is even more of a reason to keep any criticism in house
Team | P | W | D | L | PD | Pts | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Bulldogs | 5 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 66 | 12 |
2 | Storm | 4 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 62 | 8 |
3 | Broncos | 6 | 4 | 0 | 2 | 56 | 8 |
4 | Raiders | 6 | 4 | 0 | 2 | 36 | 8 |
5 | Warriors | 4 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 8 | 8 |
6 | Rabbitohs | 6 | 4 | 0 | 2 | -4 | 8 |
7 | Sea Eagles | 6 | 3 | 0 | 3 | 22 | 6 |
8 | Sharks | 6 | 3 | 0 | 3 | 21 | 6 |
9 | Dragons | 5 | 2 | 0 | 3 | 18 | 6 |
10 | Knights | 4 | 2 | 0 | 2 | -24 | 6 |
11 | Titans | 5 | 2 | 0 | 3 | -26 | 6 |
12 | Cowboys | 6 | 3 | 0 | 3 | -42 | 6 |
13 | Tigers | 5 | 2 | 0 | 3 | 12 | 4 |
14 | Dolphins | 6 | 2 | 0 | 4 | 8 | 4 |
15 | Roosters | 6 | 2 | 0 | 4 | -52 | 4 |
16 | Panthers | 6 | 1 | 0 | 5 | -38 | 2 |
17 | Eels | 6 | 1 | 0 | 5 | -123 | 2 |