Sea Eagles’ best 17: Pressure on the big three with depth to be tested

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  1. BOZO

    By:BOZOJan 12, 2019
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    I dont share your view on this ...
    The same squad in 2010 that Jamie made his debut won the Grand final the following year . Our depth this season is not as good
    BALLIN, Matt [​IMG]
    BUHRER, Jamie
    CROSS, Matthew
    FARRAR, Ben
    FORAN, Kieran [​IMG]
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    HOPOATE, William
    KING, Jason
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    LYON, Jamie
    MATAI, Stephen [​IMG]
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    PERRY, Josh
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    RODNEY, Shane
    ROSE, George
    SEUSEU, Terence
    STEWART, Brett
    STEWART, Glenn
    WATMOUGH, Anthony
    WHARE, Dean
    WILLIAMS, Tony [​IMG]
     
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    • Fibro Eagle

      By:Fibro EagleJan 12, 2019
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      I’d give Funa first crack at the wing spot ( hoppa not old enough as suggested)
      But they might go with experience then most likely Elliot
       
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      • BOZO

        By:BOZOJan 12, 2019
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        I have not seen much of young Funa. He is rated highly by some . Have you seen much of him on the playing field ?
         
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        Only in the Holden cup he has some size for a young guy and can kick goals
         
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        • Ryan

          By:RyanJan 12, 2019
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          If young Slow-Mo-Suli is in the centres (we'll be bottom 3 again). With possibly Walker out, and Hoppa not available yet, we have :

          02.
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          To fill with the following options:

          Jorge Taufua
          Moses Suli
          Reuben Garrick
          Brendan Elliott
          Brad Parker
          Tevita Funa

          Talk about scraping the proverbial bottom of the barrel. Not thinking one of those players breaks into a Chooks backline talent wise.

          Says a lot.
           
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          By:PepiJan 12, 2019
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          I agree we aren’t stacked in that position but I don’t think many players would crack the roosters backline. They have the best fullback, the best two centres and 3 rep wingers
           
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          • Ryan

            By:RyanJan 12, 2019
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            Okay, change it for The Storm, or Broncos. Or Panthers. Or Sharks. Etc, etc. Same applies.
             
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            They are players that would struggle to make some other teams roster but all have been mentioned in the past as promising players so hopefully with the new look back room staff on board some might be able to step up finally and show they deserve to be in first grade
             
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            By:WoodsieJan 12, 2019
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            I agree I don't want to see Suli in the centres .... not yet anyway (he is still only 20) ..... but I will have a side wager with you that he is not as slow as you think he is .....

            .. and remember we now have both a sprint coach and a recognised Sports Phychologist ... Suli is one of many of our youngun's that will benefit from those areas.
             
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            • Bearfax

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              If Albert Hoppa proves his worth in the Reggies, he will be in firsts the moment he is eligible. No way Des will leave a potential match winner in reserves, like Barrett did time and again in 2018.
               
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                By:mozgrameJan 12, 2019
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                What I meant was.....if Hoppa gets a run this year....and Des is the same character he was....he will probably ease him into top grade slowly. Like he did with JB.

                Those winning sides Des had success with years ago were freaky. They played a lot of footy together on their way up. They were not only talented...but they had brains.This side we have now is not in the same ball park as the players we had last time he was here. That's why I find it hard to get on board with the majority here...thinking Des = instant success. I'm sure there'll be a honeymoon period and we'll hit the ground running...but as the year grinds on, I think we'll slide down the ladder. (I DON'T WANT THAT....but I think it'll happen)
                 
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                  I must be one of the only Suli fans here. I believe he will develop into a weapon. If he's serious about giving it a red hot go....and we have the resources in place to help him develop (we do now!) he'll make a lot of people eat their words!
                   
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                  • Ryan

                    By:RyanJan 12, 2019
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                    I honestly hope you're right mate.
                     
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                    • Bearfax

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                      Too early to compare the side they are developing today with the side of 2004-5 for example. We have three champion players in the Trbojevics and DCE. We have potentially two of the best front rowers in the game in Blake and Taupau. We have a test quality centre in Walker, if we can get the best out of him. We have five young kids who are potentially rep players coming through in Fainu, Suli, Albert Hopa, Schuster and Ben T. Sironen could yet mature into one of the best second rowers. There are a couple of young forwards coming into the team who could be anything. Elgey may be the lynchpin we have been looking for since Foran left, but maybe in 2 years, if we can hold him, Schuster or Metcalfe may hold that role if he fails. Who knows what Anderson and Funa may develop into.

                      Of course much will depend on injuries, and finding a way to hold on to the best players, while adding quality a little at a time. But those teams back in 2004-5, looked no better than this side and remember they added quality a bit at a time over the years with Lyon, Matai, Kennedy, Kite, Robertson, Williams etc being added between 2005 and 2008. The basis of the team is there. In a year or two this is potentially a champion side. We would never have guessed the same of the team Des had in his first year in 2004. Manly finished 13th but had a bunch of unknowns including John Hopoate, Jason KIng, Anthony Watmough, Brett Stewart, Glenn Stewart, added to a side including Menzies, Donald, Hicks, Walker, Monaghan and Williamson. I actually see similarities to the 2004-5 sides to this one in 2019. 11th to 8th in 2019, semis 2020, who knows in 2021.
                       
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                        I'm trying to think which potential match winners we had in reserves last year. None that I can recall. Workers were as fuked as first grade.
                         
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                        • BOZO

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                          We have quality match winning elite players in fist grade to do the job . A big improvement I can see is to function as a team
                           
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                          Bozo's what's your 1st backline (not including Hoppa / Walker)?
                           
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                          Black Town Workers [ in the games that i saw ] had some similar issues as the i st grade side last season in that they just could not string together a consistent eighty minutes and also marked by some quite lazy and ordinary defence at times . Tom Wright and Anderson were about their main match winner candidates and i st grade material . Also can only hope that a more professional and through coaching approach can get both grades to a much better competitive and consistent level for season 2019 ..
                           
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                          Why not Walker and Hoppa ? Can you confirm that they are not playing ?
                           
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                            Barrett failed to give Tom Wright, Hastings and Anderson a chance when we seriously needed some stimulus in the backline. You could see the latent talent with Wright with that try against St George. With Walker, Uate and Taupau out for much of the season, he decided to use the other Wright, an overweight Suli (he played quite well but was slow) and Parker. Its noted that in 2017 the three quarters were scoring most of the tries in the side. In 2018 it fell to DCE and TT and a couple of forwards. Kelly was the best in the three quarters scoring 7. The rest dropped away to low single figures.

                            Now Tom Wright may have some short comings, such as positioning for defence, and Anderson wasn't setting the world on fire in the Reggies, but both of these would have had far more impact in firsts on the wing, or maybe centre for T. Wright, than what we were seeing. It was obvious that our backline was pedestrian, and opposition teams were running around them. They needed speed. And then there was the Hastings debacle. How could you leave one of the few backline players with spark out of the game, because of a desire to punish. Hastings didn't lose anything. Manly did. When Hastings and Tom Wright were together in the Reggies, they sparked. So in response, yes there were three backline players there I would have had in first grade while Walker, Uate and Taufua were absent. At least the Workers almost made the semis
                             
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