Pre-Game Raiders v Manly [Round 23, 2021]

[pjayz]

I reckon Manly by plenty...
Last game vs Raiders it was not just Tom out , but DCE and others....and copped terrible calls, which we aided with lack of energy, if you don't compete hard, you will generally lose most calls and those 6 agains.
Totally agree with Snakes appraisal on the middle, where the Pommy 9 is clearly their centrepiece and the big blokes, namely Papalli and Tapine are the only real creators of attacking challenges by creating momentum on the Manly defence and MUST be shut down or it will be a longer afternoon than needed.
Regardless Manly will either win by a 30-40 margin, or it will be a higher scoring game and still a 40 - 28 Win if Manly allow Raiders to control that middle 3rd.
I expect "at least" 3 tries between Suli and Garrick...

To be fair, they had a heap out also. No Wighton, no Whitehead, no CNK, no Papalii. All are back this time around.

I think we will win, but they will try and bash us out of the game. However, if we can put three quick tries together - like we so often do - their bash and barge will quickly shift to panic footy.

 

[nightster]

we need to be in their faces

 

[eaglebuzz]

Was it Matt Frawley that played in the last game and forced about 10 repeat sets? Hope he leaves his kicking boots at home...

Frawley had his best game in years against us, possibly the best of his (fairly uninspiring) career to date.

If we keep the possession to 50% they'll fall apart like they have done all year. They're not a fit side.

 

[eaglebuzz]

To be fair, they had a heap out also. No Wighton, no Whitehead, no CNK, no Papalii. All are back this time around.

I think we will win, but they will try and bash us out of the game. However, if we can put three quick tries together - like we so often do - their bash and barge will quickly shift to panic footy.

As I said at the time they're a better team without Wighton. He has been crap this year.

 

[40 years an eagle]

To be fair, they had a heap out also. No Wighton, no Whitehead, no CNK, no Papalii. All are back this time around.

But Starling(who cut is up last time), Horsborough, Ryan James , Croker and CHN are missing this time

 

[pjayz]

But Starling(who cut is up last time), Horsborough, Ryan James , Croker and CHN are missing this time

Yeah , Horsborough didn't play last time either, neither did Croker. Ryan James hasn't been getting selected so not really an out.

Starling and CHN are genuine loses that is for sure, especially Starling.

 

[eaglebuzz]

But Starling(who cut is up last time), Horsborough, Ryan James , Croker and CHN are missing this time

Starling only cut us up after the rot had well and truly set in off the back of the possession.

Here are some fairly telling stats from that match:

57% possession to the Raiders to our 43%
They had 43 complete sets to our 27
They received 6 penalties to our 1
They made 288 tackles to our 382

Even with that disparity we still made more line breaks, had a higher effective tackle percentage and made basically the same amount of metres per set.

All of that to say, you bring that possession stat back to 50% and we win that game. Which is pretty remarkable considering we were missing Tom, Jake, DCE and Schuster.

 

[40 years an eagle]

Yeah , Horsborough didn't play last time either, neither did Croker. Ryan James hasn't been getting selected so not really an out.

Starling and CHN are genuine loses that is for sure, especially Starling.

Croker played last time and kicked 5 from 5. James played too.

 

[40 years an eagle]

Starling only cut us up after the rot had well and truly set in off the back of the possession.

Starling scored their first ry.

 

[eaglebuzz]

Starling scored their first ry.

28 minutes into the first half after the Raiders had accrued a ton of possession.

 

[40 years an eagle]

28 minutes into the first half after the Raiders had accrued a ton of possession.

Agree but he cut us up twice. He is a big loss for them as small, fast guys in the middle is our weakness. We need to be on Wighton and Williams this week.

 

[double hoops]

Raiders looked the better side at times against the storm last week. If Manly have shown one thing in 2021. They will find a way to lose without the Turbo.

 

[Cliffymagic]

Yep the 8 drop outs they forced was unbelievable. Doubt that would happen again.

 

[pjayz]

Croker played last time and kicked 5 from 5. James played too.

Apologies, you are correct. I was looking at the wrong team list.

 

[pjayz]

Gee will **** us

Same ref as last time we played Canberra. At least we don't have Peranara in the box.

 

[rmd]

The last game against the Raiders we had significantly less possession and so we were constantly on the back foot. Frawley’s kicking game was ‘on song’.

Walker was at No7, so when we did have possession, the structure just didn’t work.

Easy fix.

 

[nightster]

Starling only cut us up after the rot had well and truly set in off the back of the possession.

Here are some fairly telling stats from that match:

57% possession to the Raiders to our 43%
They had 43 complete sets to our 27
They received 6 penalties to our 1
They made 288 tackles to our 382

Even with that disparity we still made more line breaks, had a higher effective tackle percentage and made basically the same amount of metres per set.

All of that to say, you bring that possession stat back to 50% and we win that game. Which is pretty remarkable considering we were missing Tom, Jake, DCE and Schuster.

6 agains ?

 

[40 years an eagle]

6 agains ?

6/4 Canberra

Other vital stats from fox


Errors
14/8 Manly

Tackled In Opp 20
C 50/21 M

Completion Rate
M 26/37 C 40/44

Dummy Half Runs
M 2/C 22

Kick Metres
M 380/C 537

Attacking Kicks
M 7/C 15

Forced Drop Outs
M 0/C 8

Penalties
M 1/ C 6

Posession %
M 40/C60

 

[globaleagle]

I know it's nice for Queensland people do be able to see our team, but geez, do ya have to rub it in? We're struggling down here!

Can't get to see Manly?

~hold my beer~

 

[Will on the hill]

6/4 Canberra

Other vital stats from fox


Errors
14/8 Manly

Tackled In Opp 20
C 50/21 M

Completion Rate
M 26/37 C 40/44

Dummy Half Runs
M 2/C 22

Kick Metres
M 380/C 537

Attacking Kicks
M 7/C 15

Forced Drop Outs
M 0/C 8

Penalties
M 1/ C 6

Posession %
M 40/C60

Those stats scream 40 point loss. We did well to keep it close.