Poll added - Sea Eagles Everyone in League jersey

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how does this play out?

  • the religious 7 ride into the sunset and never play for Manly again

    Votes: 12 6.3%
  • the religious 7 are all reinstated next week with no hard feelings

    Votes: 132 69.1%
  • Vlandys goes ahead with his Pride Round next year

    Votes: 36 18.8%
  • Manly use the Everyone in League jersey forever more

    Votes: 9 4.7%
  • one or 2 of the 7 are sacked as ringleaders

    Votes: 5 2.6%
  • all or most accept some enlightenment on the issue and will wear the jersey in future

    Votes: 27 14.1%
  • Manly never mention Everyone in League again...

    Votes: 34 17.8%
  • Several players sek immediate release from Manly

    Votes: 23 12.0%

  • Total voters
    191
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I'm stating how i see things i don't call out differing views to mine as "rediculous" i accept others are different to me and accept that.

I'm merely representing myself not trying to convince others to join Team TC.
I'm just calling things as I see it too
 
My attitude is humanity first, religious, cultural, political beliefs second (in no particular order)

Ergo, I respect a person's right to be treated fairly & with respect regardless of their sexual orientation.

The right to hold religious discrimination against people's sexual orientation is waaaaaaay down the list from there.
 
Could it be that with Gays, Bisexuals, Lesbians and all other sexualities that are not straight that the percentages that are religious are far far less making acceptance much ea

I'm stating how i see things i don't call out differing views to mine as "rediculous" i accept others are different to me and accept that.

I'm merely representing myself not trying to convince others to join Team TC.
I'm stating how i see things i don't call out differing views to mine as "rediculous" i accept others are different to me and accept that.

I'm merely representing myself not trying to convince others to join Team TC.
TC Stop mate. It's all good. We are all Manly supporters and friends at heart I would hope. You won't win here, but this isn't even the most one sided argument you've gone into bat against. Love you mate.(and everyone on here). Let's see how we go again lst the Rooters with a team full of .....(was going to say Whitey's, I don't know how many indigenous players Manly have?).
 
Sack them all. Obviously the jersey and the club mean nothing to these homophobes. I want a club that is inclusive of all. These guys want to discriminate. Get rid of them or they will be the cancer in the playing group going forward.
I bet Manly have won premierships with all types including those who discriminate, in the workplace you just focus on the job required not your beliefs.

Have you seen the cancer in the Australian womens Soccer team over the last 5yrs or so. What i am saying is all types can bring about a cancer like culture straight or not.

Which means the players sitting out are no more of a potential cancer than any other type of person.
 
Ah yes, but that right there is the crux of the issue, isn't it?

If it is truly, completely and utterly about religious beliefs, then wouldn't the women and men from the Poly communities (and any other communities) have the SAME beliefs? Why can it be fine and acceptable for the women to play next to gay colleagues each week? If they believe being gay is a sin as a fundamental part of their religion, then surely their beliefs should stop them from playing with and/or against gay players. Acceptance is irrelevant if it is all about belief and faith.
Firstly, it's not purely about religious beliefs... that's the story some tell themselves to justify things they don't wanna look at.

Secondly, you assume that the genders have equal rights within different groups. There's a whole other layer of issues.
 
Quite honestly i find your line of thinking as ridculous as me saying 'I wouldn't associate or have friendships with red heads though(not out of hatred i just don't feel comfortable around their personality types)'

Red heads like homosexuals are all different people with different personalities, interests, hopes and dreams......wow it amazes me Im typing this to another adult
Somebody had to bring the rangas into this debate, didn’t they…
 
Question for those that are OK with the decision for these 7 to stand down over this issue.

Why are the Polynesian players that play in the NRLW seemingly ok with the number of gay players that they play with each and every week? Surely a sin is a sin. There are certainly a number of gay players in the NRLW, including the Australian captain. Yet the Poly players play besides them without it seeming to be an issue.

Nope, this is just grandstanding by our players. It's choosing to be outraged at something for no real reason. Wonder is found guilty if they will still support him. After all, Wrath is one of the seven deadly sins, and the definition of Wrath is a strong anger and hate towards another person. Or will that be ok because they CHOOSE to be ok with it?
@Chunky there is a big difference between being okay with playing alongside gay players and feeling forced to advertise something they are not okay with or been in discussions about.

I'm old enough to know that in all levels of sport ( yes, even professional) that not everyone likes all their teammates or condones their lifestyles.
I play park football with a mix of functioning alcoholics, a church minister, a Mormon, a couple of other churchies and a mismash of "normal" everyday blokes. Even some of those everyday blokes I don't socialise with but we function as a team, mostly.
They don't try to impose their ways/thoughts on me just like I don't impose my ways/thoughts on them.
That is whilst I don't agree with the dissenting seven from a team point of view I can still respect their will and rights to do so.
 
I bet Manly have won premierships with all types including those who discriminate, in the workplace you just focus on the job required not your beliefs.

Have you seen the cancer in the Australian womens Soccer team over the last 5yrs or so. What i am saying is all types can bring about a cancer like culture straight or not.

Which means the players sitting out are no more of a potential cancer than any other type of person.
I think most people agree with your first point which is why most are disappointed the that we have 7 players sitting out. I respect their right to not agree with the message on the jersey, but in the end they're meant to just to focus on the job of playing footy.
 
I bet Manly have won premierships with all types including those who discriminate, in the workplace you just focus on the job required not your beliefs.

Have you seen the cancer in the Australian womens Soccer team over the last 5yrs or so. What i am saying is all types can bring about a cancer like culture straight or not.

Which means the players sitting out are no more of a potential cancer than any other type of person.
Well, in that story, the 7 sitting out would be the destructive force as they are the ones who are not just focusing on the job, but rather, focusing on their beliefs. Right?
 
Outstanding work, Dan :)

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During the Israel Folau debarcle , I told people that they were seriously underestimating the depth of Folau's beliefs and the strength of his convictions ....

Rugby Aust. and Qantas soon learnt that they had also seriously underestimated the amount of support he had in the broader community ...

Disagree with the stance the players make all you want ... but the numbnuts calling them weak are seriously underestimating the depth of their beliefs, and the genuine strength of their convictions .... they will also be surprised by the amount of support they have in the broader community ..
 
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