can someone name these homophobes.
I think the club and the NRL insist they wear the traditional white hoops if the object to the jersey being used on the night.
can someone name these homophobes.
This is more than a bit extreme. So if there's a group that has a belief or an opinion different to yours they should be hounded out of the game? That's not very inclusive. Doesn't "inclusive" apply to everyone? Clearly not.
Of course not! You think we should include nazis and the Ku Klux Klan so as not to offend Jew-haters and Blacks? Come on!
so now ... any polynesian with strong convictions is being compared to Nazi's and the Ku Klux Kan ....
One of your best ...
That's what you got out of his post? Wow
Mate you understand my point in your kind of way. The first few sentences of your post say that loud and clear. I was just trying to see if you could could associate any deplorable behaviour on the left side of the spectrum as I sensed a possible bias ( no offence intended) just being honest.Mate there's not many atrocities around the world more shameful than Australia's treatment of asylum seekers, or the incarceration rate of our First Nations people. Talk about an embarrassment on the world stage. Aside from that though I don't really understand your point, sorry.
The colours (I think) mean that everyone is entitled to their sexuality without harassment and discrimination. For those who do not share that view - they think your sexuality wrong and you aren't entitled to it. Or worse, it is abhorent and an affront to God (or whatever). These people are not espousing a freedom. They are espousing opposition to a freedom. Aren't they?The colours mean something. The flip side is for those who may not share that view they dont want to wear it. Two freedoms here are clashing
Hmm. If it helps at all, I blame the so-called left for pretty much everything, in particular for their failure to call out injustice in any principled fashion. A duly elected Whitlam shouldn't have accepted his dismissal by the bloody Queen's top-hatted drunk of a representative. And Trump could never have been possible if not for the pathetic betrayal of working people by generations of Democrats.I was just trying to see if you could could associate any deplorable behaviour on the left side of the spectrum as I sensed a possible bias ( no offence intended) just being honest
Im gonna play devils advocate.The colours (I think) mean that everyone is entitled to their sexuality without harassment and discrimination. For those who do not share that view - they think your sexuality wrong and you aren't entitled to it. Or worse, it is abhorent and an affront to God (or whatever). These people are not espousing a freedom. They are espousing opposition to a freedom. Aren't they?
7 guys don’t like the rainbow jumper...I’m not losing any sleep over it. I hope no gays are either.The colours (I think) mean that everyone is entitled to their sexuality without harassment and discrimination. For those who do not share that view - they think your sexuality wrong and you aren't entitled to it. Or worse, it is abhorent and an affront to God (or whatever). These people are not espousing a freedom. They are espousing opposition to a freedom. Aren't they?
I couldn’t agree more. People are entitled to their sexuality and acceptance in our society. There is so much more to a persons identity than there desires. I mean the things we can control about ourselves say like our character. I really don’t care or want to know about peoples personal sexual desires as long they have a genuine right to them. I don’t really want to see any groups sexual desires on a footy jersey though.The colours (I think) mean that everyone is entitled to their sexuality without harassment and discrimination. For those who do not share that view - they think your sexuality wrong and you aren't entitled to it. Or worse, it is abhorent and an affront to God (or whatever). These people are not espousing a freedom. They are espousing opposition to a freedom. Aren't they?
Agreed, most people would... that's why there is not a picture of gay sex on the jersey... (I assume)I couldn’t agree more. People are entitled to their sexuality and acceptance in our society. There is so much more to a persons identity than there desires. I mean the things we can control about ourselves say like our character. I really don’t care or want to know about peoples personal sexual desires as long they have a genuine right to them. I don’t really want to see any groups sexual desires on a footy jersey though.
" I just thought a separate might be handy, if only for posterity 🙂"-------yeah that was your only thought to separate.Saw a bunch of posts in the Club News thread but this deserves its own thread really.
It's quite clear there's a few who are terrified of their own latent homosexuality, hahaha.
Less funny is the idea that we must not support oppressed minorities lest that offend the bigots, whom we must appease because, well, actually I couldn't quite understand the end of that line of thought.
Then we have the no politics in sport slogan. That one is certainly humorous.
And even a few Izzie Folou fans, who seem to say we must stand up for the rights of religious bigots because they have feelings too. Gotta admit I've never really been swayed by that 'argument', lol.
Anyway carry on in either thread, i just thought a separate might be handy, if only for posterity 🙂
Oh yeah, nearly forgot - i actually saw posts wondering if there hadn't been any gay footy player since Ian Roberts, and saying there is so much tolerance noawadays that of course gays can come out whenever they like without repercussions. Uh uh. There are plenty but they are terrified of what would happen to them. And reading some of the views of our very own ST members i can't rally blame them!
“LGBTIQA people have always been a part of sport but haven’t always been allowed the visibility,” said former Manly forward Ian Roberts
I think Woodsie's inference is not an unreasonable stretch. Its a fair argument in the light of what was said. I've read much more unreasonable things said on the forum this afternoon. SEr8 is the one who used Godwin's Law, not Woodsie.SER8 replied .. in a thread dealing with 7 poynesians protesting the pride jersey ... that yes some groups don't deserve inclusiveness . ..
I responded ..
Please explain what I should have gotten out of Ser8's post ..
I guess you will just need to use your imagination Frank.Agreed, most people would... that's why there is not a picture of gay sex on the jersey... (I assume)
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