Other Games [Round 3, 2024]
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Loads on here still support Des but it’s pretty clear his coaching tactics , and whatever else he does at each club he’s been with since his Manly glory days is now “ old school & not working “.
I still respect him for his playing days , and everything he did with us up to the day after the 2011 Grand Final.
But he’s been going downhill, albeit slowly , ever since.
I still respect him for his playing days , and everything he did with us up to the day after the 2011 Grand Final.
But he’s been going downhill, albeit slowly , ever since.
Captain Moondog
Absolute Superstar
I'll never forget 2011. Long way from Collaroy to the Gold Coast. Bend over Dessie and I'll drive you home.
DanielTurbo888
Reserve Grader
If they lose in similar fashion next week to the Dolphins Des is gone. They have Cowboys, Raiders, Manly, Warriors, Storm and Cowboys again after that.
The '47ers
When Eagles are silent Parrots begin to chatter
Have to give the Dogs fans some credit today, a big turnout for an underperforming home side.
Hope they don't jihad on the way home.
Hope they don't jihad on the way home.
And another huge payout for not doing much at all.
LeonardCohen
Bencher
Titans were woeful. They've gone backwards under Hasler.
One thing I am a little sick of hearing is how a Des Hasler coached side has strong defence. It's 10 years since a Hasler has coached a team was renown for their defence. His last couple of years at the Dogs they leaked like a sieve. The year we made the top 4 in 2021, our defence was ranked 10th in the competition. 2020 saw records break for points conceded. 2022 were lost something like 8-9 in a row to finish the year and we were regularly thrashed by 30-40 points in those matches.
One thing I am a little sick of hearing is how a Des Hasler coached side has strong defence. It's 10 years since a Hasler has coached a team was renown for their defence. His last couple of years at the Dogs they leaked like a sieve. The year we made the top 4 in 2021, our defence was ranked 10th in the competition. 2020 saw records break for points conceded. 2022 were lost something like 8-9 in a row to finish the year and we were regularly thrashed by 30-40 points in those matches.
Captain Moondog
Absolute Superstar
Lot of retirees on the Gold Coast who follow other teams, they want to see a game, their interest in the Titans is transitory .
Rocky
Bencher
Used to be a great coach...about 15 years ago.
Very very good point & yes I did hear the commentators say that pre kick off.
Captain Moondog
Absolute Superstar
The Myth, The Man, The Myth...
I am watching the next game but mainly because it can't be worse
Everyone writing Des off... Come on, it's round 3. Are we all forgetting 2021, where Des had us 0-4, and went on to go to the prelim? Absolutely early days for Des and the Titans. What, should we have sacked him in 2004 because he missed the finals? He might be trying to rebuild the Titans from the ground up. There's no superstars there or much platform to build upon aside from two forwards. We copped some of our biggest losses ever in our rebuilding period in 2004, 2005 and 2006. They didn't sack him then, and it paid off.
Additionally, I can't remember him going well in the opening to seasons since maybe 2012 at the Dogs, but after all, it's what you produce in the middle and at the end of the year that matters. Who cares at all about a bloody pre-season challenge or who's on top of the table mid-way through the year. South's did last year, they were first, and have gone nowhere since.
You can't reasonably expect any coach to do much after what happened in the pride jersey saga. I think Des leaving was probably the right call, in the sense that to rebuild the club's culture and close the divides, everything would have to change about the environment. New centre of excellence, new coach, new CEO, new logo, new culture (that tied back to the winners of old), it was part of the process of repairing a team that clearly had a lot wrong with it after the pride jersey. They wouldn't have done all of these things if the pride jersey was just some overblown media thing that had no effect on the team, club and culture. It clearly wasn't something just wrong with the coach. Things were in genuine deep poop, and even Turbo admitted that the stories about him and Jake wanting to leave were actually true. That's not a club where you can expect the coach to win.
Even from supporters of other teams, before the pride jersey we were Top 8 certainties, even with millions on the sidelines from injuries. That presented itself in statistical models, projections, and the views of actually competent analytical journalists around that time. You cannot possibly think Des is washed or gone, for losing 7 in a row in a clearly horrific environment that literally required an entire refresh or the club, after appearing to be a top-8 side prior, and for losing the first 2 in a row, as is normal for Des, without a first choice spine and with an inherited top-heavy roster.
These are some of the biggest overreactions I've ever seen. What will speak as to whether he's washed or not is what happens by September. We could just as well go to lose every single game from here on out as the Titans could win the premiership.
Additionally, I can't remember him going well in the opening to seasons since maybe 2012 at the Dogs, but after all, it's what you produce in the middle and at the end of the year that matters. Who cares at all about a bloody pre-season challenge or who's on top of the table mid-way through the year. South's did last year, they were first, and have gone nowhere since.
You can't reasonably expect any coach to do much after what happened in the pride jersey saga. I think Des leaving was probably the right call, in the sense that to rebuild the club's culture and close the divides, everything would have to change about the environment. New centre of excellence, new coach, new CEO, new logo, new culture (that tied back to the winners of old), it was part of the process of repairing a team that clearly had a lot wrong with it after the pride jersey. They wouldn't have done all of these things if the pride jersey was just some overblown media thing that had no effect on the team, club and culture. It clearly wasn't something just wrong with the coach. Things were in genuine deep poop, and even Turbo admitted that the stories about him and Jake wanting to leave were actually true. That's not a club where you can expect the coach to win.
Even from supporters of other teams, before the pride jersey we were Top 8 certainties, even with millions on the sidelines from injuries. That presented itself in statistical models, projections, and the views of actually competent analytical journalists around that time. You cannot possibly think Des is washed or gone, for losing 7 in a row in a clearly horrific environment that literally required an entire refresh or the club, after appearing to be a top-8 side prior, and for losing the first 2 in a row, as is normal for Des, without a first choice spine and with an inherited top-heavy roster.
These are some of the biggest overreactions I've ever seen. What will speak as to whether he's washed or not is what happens by September. We could just as well go to lose every single game from here on out as the Titans could win the premiership.
2830 Eagle
Aim low, reach your goals, avoid disappointment
Seems to be zero atmosphere at Kogarah
| Team | P | W | L | PD | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
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7 | 6 | 1 | 54 | 14 |
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6 | 5 | 1 | 59 | 12 |
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8 | 5 | 2 | 39 | 11 |
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6 | 4 | 2 | 53 | 10 |
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6 | 4 | 2 | 30 | 10 |
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8 | 4 | 4 | 73 | 8 |
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7 | 4 | 3 | 40 | 8 |
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7 | 4 | 3 | 24 | 8 |
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7 | 3 | 4 | 17 | 8 |
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7 | 4 | 3 | -8 | 8 |
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8 | 4 | 4 | -60 | 8 |
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8 | 3 | 4 | 17 | 7 |
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6 | 2 | 4 | -31 | 6 |
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8 | 3 | 5 | -55 | 6 |
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7 | 2 | 5 | -29 | 4 |
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7 | 1 | 6 | -87 | 4 |
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7 | 1 | 6 | -136 | 4 |
