NRL's 40/20 rule is run by ballboys

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Brissie Kid

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Just to show how out of control the NRL is for this year they added that insane 40/20 quick tap rule, where playing against no defence is supposed to pass as great rugby league!

But to top that off it's a rule reliant entirely on the whim of a 12 year old boy who is aligned with one of the two clubs playing the game!

He can choose how quickly or not he runs up field with the ball so a tap can be taken or not.

We all saw what happened after DCE's 40/20 last night.

A so called professional sport reliant on schoolboys. Laughable.
 
All clubs to employ professional ball boys to stand on the 20 metre line all game in case a 40/20 happens.
Have them doing drills at training practising catching, sprinting and placing ball on ground.
Their wages counted in the cap of course.
 
What was wrong with having a scrum?

It gave the defending team time to set their defence & the attacking team the chance to run a set play against a defence with 6 players in the scrum.
 
shawn.b said:
What was wrong with having a scrum?

It gave the defending team time to set their defence & the attacking team the chance to run a set play against a defence with 6 players in the scrum.

Should we be surprised? It was this same dopey organisation who thought the "power play" rule was worth a trial. That was the one where one team gets to choose two players in the other team who have to leave the field so its then its 13 v 11 for 5 minutes.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/the-all-stars-rugby-league-game-on-february-4-will-trial-a-power-play-rule/story-e6frf3ou-1226212041184

It has its origins in ice hockey and now the power play is coming to the NRL.

The All Stars game on February 4 will trial a number of rule changes including one where a team on the attack can ask the defence to drop two players from its team.

Each team will be allowed one power play per half of football and the defending team will have to sweat it out for five minutes before it can return to a full complement on the field.

Fans will get to enjoy the moment too with a shot clock appearing on the scoreboard counting down the time before the two players can rejoin their teammates.

NRL football operations director Nathan McGuirk came up with the idea and has already bounced it off NRL All Stars coach Wayne Bennett and Indigenous coach Laurie Daley.

"It's probably something that we're not looking to introduce into the competition but we thought it was an interesting way in which we could promote attacking football in what's becoming an important game on the rugby league calendar," McGuirk said.
 
So this time last week we pointed out the problem of a rule reliant on 12 year old boys but everyone but Manly laughed it off as not important. Now the Eels have been robbed of 2 competition points and everyone is asking how could the NRL have allowed this to happen?

Just to show how out of control the NRL is for this year they added that insane 40/20 quick tap rule, where playing against no defence is supposed to pass as great rugby league!

But to top that off it's a rule reliant entirely on the whim of a 12 year old boy who is aligned with one of the two clubs playing the game!

He can choose how quickly or not he runs up field with the ball so a tap can be taken or not.

We all saw what happened after DCE's 40/20 last night.

A so called professional sport reliant on schoolboys. Laughable.
 
So just where does it say in this insane rule:
1) Anything about the role of the ballboy?
2) That the tap is allowed to be a quick tap?
Toddy? Toddy? Anyone?

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/change-to-4020-ruling-has-caused-controversy-throughout-nrl-season/story-fni3fbgz-1227026292503

An NRL rule change that brought the role of ball boys into the spotlight has sparked controversy and confusion throughout the season - and may well have cost Parramatta a shot at the finals.

Chris Sandow last night executed a precise 40/20 kick in the closing stages of an ultimately losing tilt against the Bulldogs. But because the ball boy threw the ball to Vai Toutai - at the players’ request - rather than placing it on the ground, the Eels were denied the quick tap that would have led to a try.

It wasn’t the first time the new rule change has bitten Parramatta this season.

Sandow was infuriated during a Monday night clash on May 12 against the Sharks when the Eels were twice pulled back from taking a quick tap after a successful 40/20 kick.

The same fate befell Panthers playmaker Jamie Soward on July 19 during a loss to the Roosters.

“There’s no point in having it, is there?” Soward said of the new 40/20 rule at the time.

“You’re not allowed to get the ball unless the ballboy has the ball on the ground and the ball boys were doing the best job that could but the reality is that Kevin Naiqama or Jamal Idris sprints down there a lot quicker.

“I’m surprised the NRL haven’t looked at ways for that to move and flow.”

Daly Cherry-Evans fell victim to the new laws as recently as last week. After unleashing a brilliant 40-20 against the Rabbitohs, Manly players sprinted down to take the quick tap only to find the South Sydney ballboys had not placed the ball on the touchline.

And then there was last night’s controversy, which is set to rage for some time yet.

Interestingly, there is no mention of the role of the ball boy in the section 9.8 of the Rugby League Laws of the Game, released in February this year.

The new rule states: “When a kick in general play and from inside a team’s 40 metre zone, finds touch (other than on the full) in the opposition’s 20 metre zone, the resulting tap kick restart will be awarded to the kicking team 20 metres in from touch opposite where the ball crossed the touch line, but no closer than 10 metres from the goal line.”

It is the only mention of 40/20 kicks in the Rugby League Laws of the Game.

Todd Greenberg, the NRL’s Head of Football, announced the change from a scrum to a tap kick restart in January. The new 40/20 restart was one of three major rule changes, a handful of rule interpretation changes and several safety initiatives rolled out.

“In previous years at the NRL we’ve made decisions pretty quickly but this has been five months in the process,” Greenberg said at the time.

“We’ve worked really hard with the competition committee and with some of the most pre-eminent minds in the game to bring together some concepts and ideas in order to make the product itself better.

“We’ve then gone around and pressure tested that with every club and their coaches in order to get feedback and this is the end result. It highlights that we’re looking to be innovative and we’re looking to give fans and members the opportunity to continue to make rugby league the best it can be, both live and on television.

“We’re also very conscious that along the way we have to be very careful not to disturb the fabric of the game. So what we’ve done here is maintain what rugby league is but also keep evolving and innovating.

“That’s one of the absolute advantages of our sport.”

Phil Gould said the 40/20 rule needed to be resolved during last night’s commentary.

“They’ve got to fix up this 40/20 quick tap business because it’s very, very messy at the moment,” Gould said. “The reason they wouldn’t give them the quick tap is because the ball boy never put the ball on the ground.

“The winger ran down and demanded it from the ball boy. The ball boy got panicky and threw it to him and that’s a no-no.

“Our game shouldn’t rely on what an 11-year-old ball boy does on the sideline. Surely we’re beyond that.”


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/change-to-4020-ruling-has-caused-controversy-throughout-nrl-season/story-fni3fbgz-1227026292503
 
The 7 tackles 20m tap restart rule was just as ill thought out. They added it to supposedly discourage kicks over the deadball line to take out Slater etc, but forgot about what it would do to grubber kicks ingoal, forgot it would penalise missed field goal attempts & then after announcing the rule they changed it to include all 20m tap restarts no matter what the reason.
 
Bring back the 70's rules, oh and ONE ref, and punches allowed!!

That of course is tongue in cheek, but seriously I wonder at times the thought process the NRL go through.

And I wonder how much better it would be if they consulted a group of regular game attending fans, say 2 from each club, nominated by the club to attend a weekend in Sydney in the off season prior to changing the rules.

One rule I'd like to see is the use of the stop clock.

I read where we are really getting about 52 minutes of actual play in an 80 minute game....Now I certainly don't want to see us like the NFL but there are times it could be used , after each try for example and on until the kick restart .

I think also that kicking the ball out ( near the end of the game), to be used as a time waster should be banned, perhaps in the last 20 minutes of a game the clock could be stopped on these occasions.

There's probably more places it could be used as well, again I don't want it to be like the NFL, but you have to agree 52 minutes of actual play isn't great.
 
Some ball boys are alright, the one on the bottom left went on to make something of himself ....

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Matai and SBW were ballboys for the Kiwis in NZ :)

I thought that the BBs had to place the ball on the line for everything. So the SCG amd the ANZ kids just weren't up to it.

If they had transgressed against the Scumos, Greenturd woul have them demoted :cool:
 
wombatgc said:
No excuses for the ball-boy...he should've been taken out the back and shot.

At the very least, no pocket-money, or free pie and coke kiddie!

Seriously, if they are going to try and keep this 40/20 advantage-rule, from now on all ball-boys "should" be up to speed and understand to place the ball on the spot (on the 20m).

At least get consistency, but I too am far from convinced it's a good look, seeing teams goin' helter-skelter (attack and defence) to try and get a quick-tap.

It's not touch-footy (or shouldn't be!)
 

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