more COVID discussion

[Mark from Brisbane]

We it’s certainly “ out and about “ in QLD.

Doubling every day at present.

Probably 1000-2000 cases a day by New Year.

Wonder if that’s the case will they stop all that stupid border crap??

Oh yeah sorry I forgot, we have Pallachook, they’ll just close the borders and lock us down.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

I miss Biff as well. It's in the offseason when the "controversial" characters are missed. Biff was the chocolate sauce on the vanilla ice cream.

Biff was an excellent “ biter” he chimed in on almost anything.

 

[Technical Coach]

Yet another piece of misinformation from you. Funny how the anti-vaxx stance has kept changing as each claim is debunked - now it's the "we dont know the longterm effects of the vaccine" that's being thrown around.

Debunking myths about COVID-19

Let's set the record straight on some circulating myths about COVID-19 vaccines, prevention and treatment.

www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org

1)What does that link have to do with anything i have mentioned here, i haven't made any of these claims.

2)Never been Anti Vax, i am vaccinated and am Pro Vaccination, i am against mandates and the lack of transparency in the approval process along with the increased withholding of information or filtering of information online under the guise of "this is fake news we are the definers of what is suitable for your consumption"---let the readers determine that.

Also against QR codes in terms of the bigger picture not in relation to it's present use of tracking positives, that "may" offer a fear reason to keep it long term. Already the Govt is going to bring it back in---what is the point now with over 5000 positives a day.

3)FDA with over 40% of it's funding from the companies it regulates and to a lesser extent the TGA. Approval speeds correlate with increased funding is not a trusting environment that is for sure and we should have our doubts.(this funding model was implemented by the FDA to speed up approval of drugs for AIDS i recall)

I'm so sick of being labelled "Anti Vax" where not once have i stated this stance, i'm pro freedom of choice.

Yes after vaccination i now have issues with my sense of smell big time now for over 4 months, but i had these views beforehand. Yes i will accept this long term if taking the vaccine substantially improves my chances of survival so i am not as angered as you think but yeah it is not great.(never tested positive and i reduce my social activities during this time better than most)

 

[Technical Coach]

“The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge.”
— Stephen Hawking

Goes for both sides of the debate so a pointless post.

Consumption of advice from both sides is not education if you don't understand with some depth what you are being told in a balanced open manner.

 

[Technical Coach]

You sound exactly like the type of person with pseudo science opinions formed by spending too much time on the internet.

I will listen to the medical advice because that is their expertise, not some crack pot tin foil hat bull**** opinion formed on the basis of logical fallacies I have seen online.

Not into Pseudo science(once again please quote where i have made "pseudo science claims here") you just come across as someone making lazy blanket observations of the highest tool variety to place yourself on an intellectual pedestal.

I've debated the pros and cons(from both sides) with biologists and people in the medical field and have a very balanced point of view in terms of the vaccination side----the mandating side i am totally against though.

Just sick of people linking anti mandates and who also have concerns over the general lack of transparency in all areas as people who are Anti Vax.

 

[Technical Coach]

I can name a whole bunch of medical experts which include Nobel prize winning epidemiologists if you're interested. You may need to get past the fact check on the internet - they have gone from being celebrated scientific minds to unreliable kooks apparently. All because they dared to voice their concerns regarding the vaccines. @Technical Coach isn't referring to Joe Rogan I don't imagine.

Media "Fact checker" articles or news reports merely just state the obvious and what has already been reported and are always biased from both sides of the debate to suit an agenda, it is the same with politics fact checkers.

You get left wing fact checkers, you get right wing fact checkers most is just lazy reporting to fill in air time or paper space.

It is dumbed down reporting from both sides that basically is saying "this is what we know or have found so far please don't dig any deeper, or have any doubts or concerns, please don't bother with self research from all angles----these are the concrete facts move on with your life"

It's based off the reply i get most annoyed of when people say "at the end of the day", it is basically saying this is what it is, nothing you can add from this point on so move on.

 

[Technical Coach]

Do you accept that the reason there is a "rushed scenario" is that that about 5 and a half million people are already dead from this thing?
And the disease is creating havoc in economies and health systems all over the world?
I'm not sure if you are advocating a 'wait and see' approach.

I don't have an issue with the "rushed scenario" if i am provided with freedom of choice at the same time.

In other words i don't have an issue with rushed vaccines if i retain freedom of choice.

Some of the stats in relation to Covid are very questionable, especially the American ones where it has been reported(not fact checked by me but people in this field i know share the same concerns) that hospitals receive more funding for covid patients which lends itself to a bias of making such a diagnosis.

Australia appears to have more reliable data though due to a different funding model i believe anyway.

 

[MissKate]

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus always comes out and states the bleeding obvious, after everyone else has already comes to the same conclusion. With the WHO heavily funded by the likes of China I don’t really value their advices much

 

[Technical Coach]

"My side of the argument" ... what are you talking about?
You keep referring to unnamed alternative experts who I should just automatically respect and accept. But you think I am the arrogant one? Is this like Kelly Ann Conway's "alternative facts"??
So which expert are you following? That disagrees with Kerry Chant and Dr Fauci (and WHO)? And why do you prefer their advice?
I think it is clear which of us is rude and arrogant in this conversation.

Considering your very first post to me in this subject tried to make a lame link towards Joe Rogan and bring up old topics of neck tattoos unrelated to the subject at hand set the tone i feel.

I never once stated "experts who i(you) should just automatically respect and accept" i am merely stating i have spoken to in person people in the medical sciences who have valid educated concerns and i take them on board in a balanced manner, along with the typical medical advice we all receive.

Most on the other hand just take the advertised medical advice as gospel and don't even bother to look more in depth--- even if you believe it to be true and the facts, or the best we can know for now you should continue to question and search more.

And yes i judge all people negatively who have tattoos of any sort, do i care no, pro choice here lol.

 

[robbiea]

WHO Is a ####ing sham

 

[Will on the hill]

Does anyone know where the Rugby League forum is? I'm clearly stuck in the general forum.

 

[eagle66]

WHO Is a ####ing sham

I don't know, who is?

 

[eagleron]

I don't know, who is?

More than likely a Roosters, Storm or Parra player, the words ####ing sham would fit that mould, 😉

 

[jamesie]

I don't know, who is?

Who is on first

 

[Kevinward777]

Biff was an excellent “ biter” he chimed in on almost anything.

If only he was a Snapper.

 

[Budgie]

Goes for both sides of the debate so a pointless post.

Consumption of advice from both sides is not education if you don't understand with some depth what you are being told in a balanced open manner.

Sorry TC. I'll be sure to ask your permission next time I post. You could give me tips if any subtleties are just too damned subtle.
By way of returning the favour, I'd like to offer assistance with your grammar.

 

[Budgie]

Consumption of advice from both sides is not education if you don't understand with some depth what you are being told in a balanced open manner.

"Consumption of advice" is NEVER (sorry to shout, I think you may be a little deaf) education. You've heard of research? Checking sources?
Guess not.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

With the WHO heavily funded by the likes of China I don’t really value their advices much

The USA provides most funding.

20% of WHO’s funding is provided by assessed contributions by each of the 196 member states, based on their GDP

https://cdn.who.int/media/docs/defa...2022-2023.pdf?sfvrsn=3400287b_1&download=true

The remaining 80% of WHO’s budget is from donations, with the USA currently by far the largest. Australia is in the top 20 and donated almost as much as China.

Our contributors

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[BOZO]

The USA provides most funding.

20% of WHO’s funding is provided by assessed contributions by each of the 196 member states, based on their GDP

https://cdn.who.int/media/docs/defa...2022-2023.pdf?sfvrsn=3400287b_1&download=true

The remaining 80% of WHO’s budget is from donations, with the USA currently by far the largest. Australia is in the top 20 and donated almost as much as China.

Our contributors

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Thank you for providing facts to our feathered friends @SeaEagleRock8

The sooner all people accept all the covid facts the sooner all the covid fairy tales end

Time to stop pretending and start preventing more covid cases !

 

[Eagles4Life]

Lol,are you one of us clueless idiots or are you more enlightened?
Please enlighten us with your higher wisdom and knowledge......

The only way to enlighten you with my higher wisdom and knowledge is not to attempt authoritative comment on a highly specialised and constantly evolving subject area. Therefore, on this topic I am definitely a clueless idiot. However, any Silvertails member that believes they have access to special knowledge on this topic, is far more clueless than me. Hope this helps.