Manly Match-Fixing Investigation
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Brooke
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It's still on now but I have not been listening. When I have it is usually very lighthearted and a lot of joking.
You've won Matabele, there's no longer any need to bang on about it!
manlyfan76
There is no A.I. Just better computers
If only we had won those two games, we may have got deep into the finals, ( we had momentum) and the players would have got finals bonuses of 50k each.
gee
who'd have thought all this would happen just to take the heat off yet another nsw loss at origin!!!
Manly - the team that keeps on helping out!
who'd have thought all this would happen just to take the heat off yet another nsw loss at origin!!!
Manly - the team that keeps on helping out!
Christol74
Reserve Grader
There is an article in the Daily Telecrap regarding this alleged match fixing scandal that to me should be far more concerning to Australian society than any matchfixing in any sport.
The journalist clearly believes he and his media buddies have the right to be judge, jury and executioner because the police won't be capable of finding sufficient evidence to press charges.
'The trail is not a defined one. Finding them, punishing them, is not as easy as it sounds. It may even come down to the media, heaven forbid, to mete out the culprits and deliver a result.'
In the big scheme of things I am far more concerned about the actions of this journalists employer in the world than I am about players betting on NRL games. Clearly, there were no lessons learned by News Ltd as a result of the Levinson enquiry.
The journalist clearly believes he and his media buddies have the right to be judge, jury and executioner because the police won't be capable of finding sufficient evidence to press charges.
'The trail is not a defined one. Finding them, punishing them, is not as easy as it sounds. It may even come down to the media, heaven forbid, to mete out the culprits and deliver a result.'
In the big scheme of things I am far more concerned about the actions of this journalists employer in the world than I am about players betting on NRL games. Clearly, there were no lessons learned by News Ltd as a result of the Levinson enquiry.
Danny the Worm has laid some castings on this subject. Nice little fluffy piece
It's time to put up or shut up, says Manly Sea Eagles chief Scott Penn
Date
June 4, 2016 - 10:00P
Danny Weidler
Sport columnist
The NSW Organised Crime Squad are in the early stages of investigating two NRL matches after claims of match-fixing emerged.
The owners of the Manly Sea Eagles, the Penn family, have been on an 18-month campaign to eliminate dark forces that infiltrated the club and the playing group – and now they have broken their silence on the match-fixing scandal that has swamped the club.
It was just on a year and a half ago that the undesirable elements at the club forced the hand of the Penns and led them straight to the office of Todd Greenberg. The heaving Eagles dressing rooms were the talk of the NRL – it was a place where people with all kinds of vices gathered. And the Penn family had enough. They told Greenberg and have worked hard on their governance since.
Now chairman Scott Penn has broken his silence and the message is clear: anyone involved in dodgy behaviour relating to betting can tell their story walking. After a bombshell was dropped on Thursday and after 72 hours of speculation, the Sea Eagles have requested the NSW Organised Crime Squad come forward with information in order to bring the matter to a speedy conclusion. In other words, put up or shut up.
Taking a stand: Sea Eagles chief executive Joe Kelly (left) and chairman Scott Penn. Photo: Dallas Kilponen
Penn said: "The constant speculation and innuendo which has fuelled the media over the past 72 hours has to stop. We need to bring this matter to a head. If the NSW Organised Crime Squad have information concerning our players, we ask them to come forward and discuss it with us directly.
"To date we have had no contact from the authorities. It is not fair on our players to hang a cloud of doubt over their heads, nor is it acceptable to our proud club to have our brand tarnished over media speculation.
"Our players are aware of their obligations to the club and the community, with our code of conduct being constantly reinforced.
"If any of our players have stepped outside of the code of conduct they will be dealt with by the full force of the club, the NRL and, if relevant, the law. We will deal with the issue as required based on fact.
"We will co-operate fully with any investigation and do whatever is necessary to bring this matter to a speedy conclusion so our playing group can get on with their season.
"We have a proud history, celebrating our 70th year this year. Our greatest disappointment is that our great club is being affected by serious allegations without any opportunity to defend ourselves. Clearly it is time for the authorities to come forward with the facts so we can resolve it once and for all."
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It's time to put up or shut up, says Manly Sea Eagles chief Scott Penn
Date
June 4, 2016 - 10:00P
Danny Weidler
Sport columnist
The NSW Organised Crime Squad are in the early stages of investigating two NRL matches after claims of match-fixing emerged.
The owners of the Manly Sea Eagles, the Penn family, have been on an 18-month campaign to eliminate dark forces that infiltrated the club and the playing group – and now they have broken their silence on the match-fixing scandal that has swamped the club.
It was just on a year and a half ago that the undesirable elements at the club forced the hand of the Penns and led them straight to the office of Todd Greenberg. The heaving Eagles dressing rooms were the talk of the NRL – it was a place where people with all kinds of vices gathered. And the Penn family had enough. They told Greenberg and have worked hard on their governance since.
Now chairman Scott Penn has broken his silence and the message is clear: anyone involved in dodgy behaviour relating to betting can tell their story walking. After a bombshell was dropped on Thursday and after 72 hours of speculation, the Sea Eagles have requested the NSW Organised Crime Squad come forward with information in order to bring the matter to a speedy conclusion. In other words, put up or shut up.
Taking a stand: Sea Eagles chief executive Joe Kelly (left) and chairman Scott Penn. Photo: Dallas Kilponen
Penn said: "The constant speculation and innuendo which has fuelled the media over the past 72 hours has to stop. We need to bring this matter to a head. If the NSW Organised Crime Squad have information concerning our players, we ask them to come forward and discuss it with us directly.
"To date we have had no contact from the authorities. It is not fair on our players to hang a cloud of doubt over their heads, nor is it acceptable to our proud club to have our brand tarnished over media speculation.
"Our players are aware of their obligations to the club and the community, with our code of conduct being constantly reinforced.
"If any of our players have stepped outside of the code of conduct they will be dealt with by the full force of the club, the NRL and, if relevant, the law. We will deal with the issue as required based on fact.
"We will co-operate fully with any investigation and do whatever is necessary to bring this matter to a speedy conclusion so our playing group can get on with their season.
"We have a proud history, celebrating our 70th year this year. Our greatest disappointment is that our great club is being affected by serious allegations without any opportunity to defend ourselves. Clearly it is time for the authorities to come forward with the facts so we can resolve it once and for all."
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...scott-penn-20160604-gpbops.html#ixzz4AcDmNznu
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NYEagle
Bencher
Well, it would be nice if they fronted up with names, and within the week.
Amazingly Manly will still be one win out of equal eigth so have to win next weekend against Penrith.
If we then get Tapau back the folowing week, and maybe a recruit or two - a season could be miraculously salvaged.
Amazingly Manly will still be one win out of equal eigth so have to win next weekend against Penrith.
If we then get Tapau back the folowing week, and maybe a recruit or two - a season could be miraculously salvaged.
Not being a great Hadley fan I don't think he really bagged Manly at all. What he said was the police will find it difficult because he would be surprised if any Aussie betting agencies wouldn't have alerted the authorities to a betting irregularity. He did say it would be almost impossible to prove if it went through a agency off shore eg India.
True enough. I didn't hear him mention any player that hasn't been mentioned already. I only listened cause you can't trust mmm not to go to the gayfl and the abc has Matt idiot
HappilyManly
Journey Man
http://m.smh.com.au/rugby-league/le...be-barred-from-nrl-sheds-20160604-gpbk7h.html
“..
Ange, who has had two attempts on his life this year, said he was familiar with Sea Eagles officials and they had never told him to steer clear of the dressing rooms.
"I have never had anyone at Manly telling me not to associate with [players]," he said.....“
"This is the first I've heard of it, it has come as a surprise to me when I read the paper this morning. Manly officials have always welcomed me, they never said you can't come in.
"I used to help them raise money, with their marketing department, give them advice on how to do their functions and raise money. I give them practical advice on how to improve their balance sheets.
"The Penns [Manly owners] have seen me in their sheds and not once have they said: 'Con, we'd rather you not come in here.'
"If there was a problem, I don't know why they would tell the players and not tell me.
"If they tell me, I'd stay away, no problem, if that bothers them. They know, and everyone at Manly knows, I'm harmless.
“..
Ange, who has had two attempts on his life this year, said he was familiar with Sea Eagles officials and they had never told him to steer clear of the dressing rooms.
"I have never had anyone at Manly telling me not to associate with [players]," he said.....“
"This is the first I've heard of it, it has come as a surprise to me when I read the paper this morning. Manly officials have always welcomed me, they never said you can't come in.
"I used to help them raise money, with their marketing department, give them advice on how to do their functions and raise money. I give them practical advice on how to improve their balance sheets.
"The Penns [Manly owners] have seen me in their sheds and not once have they said: 'Con, we'd rather you not come in here.'
"If there was a problem, I don't know why they would tell the players and not tell me.
"If they tell me, I'd stay away, no problem, if that bothers them. They know, and everyone at Manly knows, I'm harmless.
HappilyManly
Journey Man
http://m.smh.com.au/rugby-league/le...atmough-and-andrew-johns-20160603-gpbcob.html
Eddie Hayson and his links to Kieran Foran, Brett Stewart, Anthony Watmough and Andrew Johns
By KATE MCCLYMONT
Kieran Foran, in blue T-shirt, cap and sunglasses, directly in front of Eddie Hasyon, at the Gosford Races on Anzac Day this year.Photo: Supplied
It was the white shoes adorned with little devil's horns that caught the punter's attention at the Gosford races on Anzac Day.
But it was even more of a surprise when he recognised the wearer was the huge gambler and one-time brothel owner Eddie Hayson, and that his companions in the betting ring were none other than rugby league star Kieran Foran and Foran's brother Liam.
For years, club officials at Manly have been concerned about Mr Hayson's close friendship with key players such as Brett Stewart and Foran, who switched from Manly to Parramatta this season.
In January last year, Mr Hayson, Stewart and two other men were spotted holidaying in Las Vegas at the Aria Resort and Casino, a luxurious five-star hotel.
Apart from their overseas jaunt, "Eddie Everywhere", as Mr Hayson is referred to by club officials, was frequently spotted at various Manly hotels enjoying a punt with Foran, Stewart, recently retired player Anthony Watmough and former league great Andrew Johns.
Johns had been on Manly's coaching staff for several years but his contract was not renewed this year after new coach Trent Barrett, a former Australian player, decided to go in a different direction.
This may not have been of concern to officials except that Hayson is no small-time punter. The chronic gambler has been banned from Star casino and, in February, was banned from betting with the TAB.
Mr Hayson was also seen with Foran in Brisbane last month, the day after Foran's TAB account registered $75,000 worth of bets in a two-hour period.
One person previously involved with Mr Hayson said it was easy to be drawn into betting beyond your means. "You might start off with $5 bets but you ended up making $5000 bets on information Eddie claimed to have received from this trainer or that jockey," he claimed.
Manly officials were more concerned about what information Mr Hayson's friendships with the players might produce. "He liked to put himself in the position of having inside information about what's taking place," said a former club official.
The former official said a feud developed between then coach Geoff Toovey and the Foran/Stewart group of players after Stewart's brother Glenn did not have his contract renewed.
The official speculated that Mr Hayson might have used knowledge of the players' discontent with Toovey to his own advantage.
In 2006, Mr Hayson and fellow punter Steve Fletcher won an estimated $2 million on a betting plunge after allegedly receiving inside information that then Newcastle Knights star Andrew Johns would not be playing due to injury.
At the time, Mr Hayson owned racehorses with Johns and his brother Matthew. A subsequent NRL investigation found nothing amiss.
Fairfax Media is not suggesting that any of the players mentioned above have been involved in any wrongdoing.
Inside information is everything when it comes to gambling. Senior police officers, while not referring to Mr Hayson, have expressed concern about the risks of organised crime figures infiltrating sport through associations with players.
Eddie Hayson and his links to Kieran Foran, Brett Stewart, Anthony Watmough and Andrew Johns
By KATE MCCLYMONT
Kieran Foran, in blue T-shirt, cap and sunglasses, directly in front of Eddie Hasyon, at the Gosford Races on Anzac Day this year.Photo: Supplied
It was the white shoes adorned with little devil's horns that caught the punter's attention at the Gosford races on Anzac Day.
But it was even more of a surprise when he recognised the wearer was the huge gambler and one-time brothel owner Eddie Hayson, and that his companions in the betting ring were none other than rugby league star Kieran Foran and Foran's brother Liam.
For years, club officials at Manly have been concerned about Mr Hayson's close friendship with key players such as Brett Stewart and Foran, who switched from Manly to Parramatta this season.
In January last year, Mr Hayson, Stewart and two other men were spotted holidaying in Las Vegas at the Aria Resort and Casino, a luxurious five-star hotel.
Apart from their overseas jaunt, "Eddie Everywhere", as Mr Hayson is referred to by club officials, was frequently spotted at various Manly hotels enjoying a punt with Foran, Stewart, recently retired player Anthony Watmough and former league great Andrew Johns.
Johns had been on Manly's coaching staff for several years but his contract was not renewed this year after new coach Trent Barrett, a former Australian player, decided to go in a different direction.
This may not have been of concern to officials except that Hayson is no small-time punter. The chronic gambler has been banned from Star casino and, in February, was banned from betting with the TAB.
Mr Hayson was also seen with Foran in Brisbane last month, the day after Foran's TAB account registered $75,000 worth of bets in a two-hour period.
One person previously involved with Mr Hayson said it was easy to be drawn into betting beyond your means. "You might start off with $5 bets but you ended up making $5000 bets on information Eddie claimed to have received from this trainer or that jockey," he claimed.
Manly officials were more concerned about what information Mr Hayson's friendships with the players might produce. "He liked to put himself in the position of having inside information about what's taking place," said a former club official.
The former official said a feud developed between then coach Geoff Toovey and the Foran/Stewart group of players after Stewart's brother Glenn did not have his contract renewed.
The official speculated that Mr Hayson might have used knowledge of the players' discontent with Toovey to his own advantage.
In 2006, Mr Hayson and fellow punter Steve Fletcher won an estimated $2 million on a betting plunge after allegedly receiving inside information that then Newcastle Knights star Andrew Johns would not be playing due to injury.
At the time, Mr Hayson owned racehorses with Johns and his brother Matthew. A subsequent NRL investigation found nothing amiss.
Fairfax Media is not suggesting that any of the players mentioned above have been involved in any wrongdoing.
Inside information is everything when it comes to gambling. Senior police officers, while not referring to Mr Hayson, have expressed concern about the risks of organised crime figures infiltrating sport through associations with players.
I actually just wait for McClymont on this one. She is thorough and I trust everything that comes from her.http://m.smh.com.au/rugby-league/le...atmough-and-andrew-johns-20160603-gpbcob.html
Eddie Hayson and his links to Kieran Foran, Brett Stewart, Anthony Watmough and Andrew Johns
By KATE MCCLYMONT
Kieran Foran, in blue T-shirt, cap and sunglasses, directly in front of Eddie Hasyon, at the Gosford Races on Anzac Day this year.Photo: Supplied
It was the white shoes adorned with little devil's horns that caught the punter's attention at the Gosford races on Anzac Day.
But it was even more of a surprise when he recognised the wearer was the huge gambler and one-time brothel owner Eddie Hayson, and that his companions in the betting ring were none other than rugby league star Kieran Foran and Foran's brother Liam.
For years, club officials at Manly have been concerned about Mr Hayson's close friendship with key players such as Brett Stewart and Foran, who switched from Manly to Parramatta this season.
In January last year, Mr Hayson, Stewart and two other men were spotted holidaying in Las Vegas at the Aria Resort and Casino, a luxurious five-star hotel.
Apart from their overseas jaunt, "Eddie Everywhere", as Mr Hayson is referred to by club officials, was frequently spotted at various Manly hotels enjoying a punt with Foran, Stewart, recently retired player Anthony Watmough and former league great Andrew Johns.
Johns had been on Manly's coaching staff for several years but his contract was not renewed this year after new coach Trent Barrett, a former Australian player, decided to go in a different direction.
This may not have been of concern to officials except that Hayson is no small-time punter. The chronic gambler has been banned from Star casino and, in February, was banned from betting with the TAB.
Mr Hayson was also seen with Foran in Brisbane last month, the day after Foran's TAB account registered $75,000 worth of bets in a two-hour period.
One person previously involved with Mr Hayson said it was easy to be drawn into betting beyond your means. "You might start off with $5 bets but you ended up making $5000 bets on information Eddie claimed to have received from this trainer or that jockey," he claimed.
Manly officials were more concerned about what information Mr Hayson's friendships with the players might produce. "He liked to put himself in the position of having inside information about what's taking place," said a former club official.
The former official said a feud developed between then coach Geoff Toovey and the Foran/Stewart group of players after Stewart's brother Glenn did not have his contract renewed.
The official speculated that Mr Hayson might have used knowledge of the players' discontent with Toovey to his own advantage.
In 2006, Mr Hayson and fellow punter Steve Fletcher won an estimated $2 million on a betting plunge after allegedly receiving inside information that then Newcastle Knights star Andrew Johns would not be playing due to injury.
At the time, Mr Hayson owned racehorses with Johns and his brother Matthew. A subsequent NRL investigation found nothing amiss.
Fairfax Media is not suggesting that any of the players mentioned above have been involved in any wrongdoing.
Inside information is everything when it comes to gambling. Senior police officers, while not referring to Mr Hayson, have expressed concern about the risks of organised crime figures infiltrating sport through associations with players.
Terry Zarsoff
First Grader
Kate McClymont (seemingly) isn't driven by agendas. She is probably one of the last true investigative journalists at work under the once great Fairfax masthead.
mozgrame
Engorged member
Sorry if this has already been posted. I haven't been following this story at all, because I think it will end up like the tennis match fixing scandal.
So for anyone else that wants a quick "get up to speed", here it is.
Manly yet to speak with police about alleged match fixing.
Penny Timms reported this story on Friday.
KIM LANDERS: The club at the centre of the latest match fixing claims engulfing the NRL says it hasn't been contacted by police.
It's alleged there was strange betting behaviour on two games involving Manly last year.
The rugby club has vowed to cooperate with any police investigation, if it's approached as Penny Timms reports.
PENNY TIMMS: No charges have been laid and police haven't formally identified any individuals.
Yet police have suspicion about two games played last year, the first being the round 16 match between Manly and South Sydney.
The second is the round 24 match between Manly and Parramatta.
Yesterday, the Organised Crime Squad confirmed it's in the early stages of examining information relating to alleged match fixing in the NRL.
Kate McClymont is an investigative journalist with Fairfax Media who broke much of the story.
She says one of the accusations involves controversial gambler and former brothel owner, Eddie Hayson.
KATE MCCLYMONT: One of my contacts was telling me that he was in a room with Eddie Hayson and Eddie Hayson had $500,000 in cash and was trying to get more out of my contact and it was to put on, to wager on a Souths and Manly match that was happening that June weekend.
PENNY TIMMS: According to Ms McClymont six players from two teams are believed to be under investigation.
Though she stresses that she hasn't seen any money change hands and no charges or even formal accusations have been made.
And she says proving any wrong doing will be a tough ask.
KATE MCCLYMONT: The interesting thing is that betting agencies that the Herald has contacted have not revealed any red flags with that match.
And I don't know whether that was because the bet was for Souths to win by more than eight points.
Now given that Souths were at the top of the table and Manly wasn't doing so well, that's not an unusual amount.
I mean, that would have been a suspected result so there's some kind of confusion about this.
But also it's very hard for investigators or for police to reconstruct a game. A dropped ball here, a missed kick there - how can you separate those out from everyday mistakes?
PENNY TIMMS: Manly Sea Eagles coach Trent Barrett was reluctant to comment on the issue this morning.
TRENT BARRETT: It's not ideal. We'd rather it not be around the whole game. You know, it isn't ideal. But the one thing we can control is to block it out, stick together and win for the Manly football club.
PENNY TIMMS: Manly is playing Canberra tonight and Barrett says the club desperately needs a win. And he's advised his players to ignore the furore.
TRENT BARRETT: They're okay. They don't say too much, the players, a lot of them are very young and they're enjoying the ride and they're enjoying playing first grade.
PENNY TIMMS: In a written statement released this morning the club says it has not been contacted by New South Wales police or the force's organised crime squad, over allegations of match fixing.
It also says it's disappointed that the club's reputation has been tarnished by what it calls imputations raised by some media.
The club also says it fully supports the NRL's stance that anyone found guilty of match fixing will be banned from the game for life.
Kate McClymont says that, aside from this latest controversy, the NRL has obligations to its younger players.
KATE MCCLYMONT: You know, we're dealing with often young, impressionable, often not terribly sophisticated players getting involved with serious organised crime figures and they're just out of their depth.
I mean only recently we saw an Eels and Penrith player going to dinner at the casino with two convicted criminals; one a formal bikie boss and another an alleged money launderer.
And once you start becoming involved with those kind of people it's very easy to get out of your depth.
PENNY TIMMS: She says there's good reason that authorities get concerned about such relationships.
KATE MCCLYMONT: Organised crime and gambling, trade on inside information and just getting players, taking them out, getting inside information from them on say tactics or injuries, that kind of information can be worth a fortune to serious gamblers.
KIM LANDERS: Fairfax journalist Kate McClymont ending Penny Timms' report.
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2016/s4475015.htm
So for anyone else that wants a quick "get up to speed", here it is.
Manly yet to speak with police about alleged match fixing.
Penny Timms reported this story on Friday.
KIM LANDERS: The club at the centre of the latest match fixing claims engulfing the NRL says it hasn't been contacted by police.
It's alleged there was strange betting behaviour on two games involving Manly last year.
The rugby club has vowed to cooperate with any police investigation, if it's approached as Penny Timms reports.
PENNY TIMMS: No charges have been laid and police haven't formally identified any individuals.
Yet police have suspicion about two games played last year, the first being the round 16 match between Manly and South Sydney.
The second is the round 24 match between Manly and Parramatta.
Yesterday, the Organised Crime Squad confirmed it's in the early stages of examining information relating to alleged match fixing in the NRL.
Kate McClymont is an investigative journalist with Fairfax Media who broke much of the story.
She says one of the accusations involves controversial gambler and former brothel owner, Eddie Hayson.
KATE MCCLYMONT: One of my contacts was telling me that he was in a room with Eddie Hayson and Eddie Hayson had $500,000 in cash and was trying to get more out of my contact and it was to put on, to wager on a Souths and Manly match that was happening that June weekend.
PENNY TIMMS: According to Ms McClymont six players from two teams are believed to be under investigation.
Though she stresses that she hasn't seen any money change hands and no charges or even formal accusations have been made.
And she says proving any wrong doing will be a tough ask.
KATE MCCLYMONT: The interesting thing is that betting agencies that the Herald has contacted have not revealed any red flags with that match.
And I don't know whether that was because the bet was for Souths to win by more than eight points.
Now given that Souths were at the top of the table and Manly wasn't doing so well, that's not an unusual amount.
I mean, that would have been a suspected result so there's some kind of confusion about this.
But also it's very hard for investigators or for police to reconstruct a game. A dropped ball here, a missed kick there - how can you separate those out from everyday mistakes?
PENNY TIMMS: Manly Sea Eagles coach Trent Barrett was reluctant to comment on the issue this morning.
TRENT BARRETT: It's not ideal. We'd rather it not be around the whole game. You know, it isn't ideal. But the one thing we can control is to block it out, stick together and win for the Manly football club.
PENNY TIMMS: Manly is playing Canberra tonight and Barrett says the club desperately needs a win. And he's advised his players to ignore the furore.
TRENT BARRETT: They're okay. They don't say too much, the players, a lot of them are very young and they're enjoying the ride and they're enjoying playing first grade.
PENNY TIMMS: In a written statement released this morning the club says it has not been contacted by New South Wales police or the force's organised crime squad, over allegations of match fixing.
It also says it's disappointed that the club's reputation has been tarnished by what it calls imputations raised by some media.
The club also says it fully supports the NRL's stance that anyone found guilty of match fixing will be banned from the game for life.
Kate McClymont says that, aside from this latest controversy, the NRL has obligations to its younger players.
KATE MCCLYMONT: You know, we're dealing with often young, impressionable, often not terribly sophisticated players getting involved with serious organised crime figures and they're just out of their depth.
I mean only recently we saw an Eels and Penrith player going to dinner at the casino with two convicted criminals; one a formal bikie boss and another an alleged money launderer.
And once you start becoming involved with those kind of people it's very easy to get out of your depth.
PENNY TIMMS: She says there's good reason that authorities get concerned about such relationships.
KATE MCCLYMONT: Organised crime and gambling, trade on inside information and just getting players, taking them out, getting inside information from them on say tactics or injuries, that kind of information can be worth a fortune to serious gamblers.
KIM LANDERS: Fairfax journalist Kate McClymont ending Penny Timms' report.
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2016/s4475015.htm
I'm not a huge fan of Zorba but I thought he spoke pretty well this morning in the Big Sports Breakfast
He's on from 1hr 50min approx
http://media.skyracing.com.au/POD/59/37107433.mp3
He's on from 1hr 50min approx
http://media.skyracing.com.au/POD/59/37107433.mp3
Latest stuff is now highlighting how players get sucked into the hands of unsavory characters, compromised and coerced into match fixing.
There was a time when sponsors etc, went through the club to get access to the player(s).
Maybe it's time for the player's manager to take a step back and let the Club manage their players whilst under contract.
Very "1984" but a lot of what is happening is due to the lack of control the Clubs and the NRL have. The NRL leave it up to some Club's to manage and step in on others, the Club's leave it up some of the Player's managers to handle so they do not upset their little darlings.
Time for someone to take control, because the lunatics are running the asylum.
There was a time when sponsors etc, went through the club to get access to the player(s).
Maybe it's time for the player's manager to take a step back and let the Club manage their players whilst under contract.
Very "1984" but a lot of what is happening is due to the lack of control the Clubs and the NRL have. The NRL leave it up to some Club's to manage and step in on others, the Club's leave it up some of the Player's managers to handle so they do not upset their little darlings.
Time for someone to take control, because the lunatics are running the asylum.
yokahontas
Bencher
I'm just as disturbed that so-called journalists don't know what 'mete (out)' means.
But on second thoughts, maybe that's exactly what the suggestion is - the media are going to 'allot' the culprits. Wouldn't be the first time they've arbitrarily decided who the guilty party should be.
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