Manly Attacking Formula ?

[maxta]

Firstly, there's so much wrong defensively, but just prefer thoughts on attack this thread.

I feel the expansive attack on early tackles from long range, is a great attribute with the likes of Saab, Koula, Turbo and more to utilise 1 of the quickest NRL back lines.
Unfortunately this same style in opposition 22m is being overcooked and predictable and there's more than just 1 reason.
It "could" still work if the defensive outsides were vacuumed inwards, before the shift....but Manly Play 1 out footy inside the opposition 22 to setup for this BIG shift "which they do well" but the lead up is of 1 out is so easily shut down, the outside defenders are very well positioned and/or have "time" to make defensive reads and close down the shift...
The better sides will play "through" the opposition with dummy halves getting out quickly from the play ball and engaging defence creating carnage centrally and also runners travel in numbers "threatening an offload" that Manly NEVER do, which then creates confusion for the wide defenders.
Also not sure if there's a worse last play team, with hopeless kicks that run dead, or bombs dropping 5-10m out....if landed better for the likes of Haumole (when playing) or Saab (who is playing) this would be as good an attacking threat as ANY across the NRL...in fact just about EVERY time these kicks are accurate, we score a try or go within a whisker.

In General, the ability to offload is a MUST in the modern game (very few), as is running with support pushing up, which Manly lack both...also the abilty to get out of dummy half , which Simpkins displayed better last night and of course a 9 who can bring his players over the advantage line to bend the line in general play, which again Simpkins has been better than other options, but I feel we have a couple of youngsters who will really excel at dummy half by 2027....hopefully earlier

Anyways just opinion and happy to hear others thoughts on the current Manly attack.

 

[The '47ers]

Well when someone who allegedly "lives and breathes Manly" on $900k, won't take a single hit up you know we're cooked.

 

[manlyfan76]

Firstly, there's so much wrong defensively, but just prefer thoughts on attack this thread.

I feel the expansive attack on early tackles from long range, is a great attribute with the likes of Saab, Koula, Turbo and more to utilise 1 of the quickest NRL back lines.
Unfortunately this same style in opposition 22m is being overcooked and predictable and there's more than just 1 reason.
It "could" still work if the defensive outsides were vacuumed inwards, before the shift....but Manly Play 1 out footy inside the opposition 22 to setup for this BIG shift "which they do well" but the lead up is of 1 out is so easily shut down, the outside defenders are very well positioned and/or have "time" to make defensive reads and close down the shift...
The better sides will play "through" the opposition with dummy halves getting out quickly from the play ball and engaging defence creating carnage centrally and also runners travel in numbers "threatening an offload" that Manly NEVER do, which then creates confusion for the wide defenders.
Also not sure if there's a worse last play team, with hopeless kicks that run dead, or bombs dropping 5-10m out....if landed better for the likes of Haumole (when playing) or Saab (who is playing) this would be as good an attacking threat as ANY across the NRL...in fact just about EVERY time these kicks are accurate, we score a try or go within a whisker.

In General, the ability to offload is a MUST in the modern game (very few), as is running with support pushing up, which Manly lack both...also the abilty to get out of dummy half , which Simpkins displayed better last night and of course a 9 who can bring his players over the advantage line to bend the line in general play, which again Simpkins has been better than other options, but I feel we have a couple of youngsters who will really excel at dummy half by 2027....hopefully earlier

Anyways just opinion and happy to hear others thoughts on the current Manly attack.

Its like they don't care.
Zero effort plays.

 

[joeboy]

Trick question? It was insipid last night

 

[sheridanstand78]

The problem with our attack is our halves don't take on the line compared to Canberra's 5/8 who scored 3 great tries, 2 of them individuall efforts. We need our halves to do that or get ones who will !!

 

[Ron E. Gibbs]

Is it (ƒ)#ckwit @7 = sh1t?

 

[globaleagle]

 

[maxta]

The problem with our attack is our halves don't take on the line compared to Canberra's 5/8 who scored 3 great tries, 2 of them individuall efforts. We need our halves to do that or get ones who will !!

Usually agree but brooks took em on way more and we were better for it .... problem was, not off second phase or defence compromised so closed him down ....but in general 200% fair call

 

[mickqld]

20 - 90 F/A last 3 games. Attack is as good as the defence. Both sh*t as is the clubs management, coaching, captain, senior leaders. The only ones who've tried hard the last 3 games are Koula, Garrick, Bullemore, Simpkin and TKO. The rest have been utter rubbish. The $Chaser is just a thief taking money for what he's dished up this year.

 

[LeonardCohen]

I agree, although I don't necessarily think offloads are the key; rather, moving forwards in numbers and having a 9 that can provide a threat and/or put forwards into space around the ruck, is integral to sucking defenders into the middle. The other issue is our middles are not that effective at generating ruck speed in the opposition red zone. A guy like Spencer Leniu who can skittle defenders, find his front, get up and play the ball quickly, is required. Sending a plodder like Lodge up the middle at a snail's pace to be smashed, before rising slowly, is not going to cut it.

Then, you've got to have backrowers who run good lines to create space outside; that's been a big reason for our poor attack since Olakau'atu's been out. There's very little happening on the right edge atm. The only threat is Brooks using someone on the left.

 

[Tragic Eagle]

Zero creatively just side to side. So predictable.

 

[Uk eagle]

Our halves are stood still waiting for a pass from dummy half. By the time the ball gets to them they are already on the back foot. Compare to Penrith, Cleary gets the ball in front of him moving forward so gaining a couple of yards on the defence. People say how Cleary always looks like he has all the time in the world, well by comparison he does and it's because of the service he gets from either dummy half or as second receiver from Yeo.
It's been said a million times but without a decent hooker/ dummy half we won't be a challenge