LOL @ Tigers
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frank stokes
I discriminate indiscriminately
Dunno @XV-1, thought the dragqueens attack has looked very promising at times this year... I reckon they may be heading in the right direction...
I would replace them on your list with the warriors personally...
frank stokes
I discriminate indiscriminately
Foxsports reporting a rumour there is a swap in the wings... Brooks for Flanagan and then Flanno's old man to replace Madge...
Not sure anyone will win out of that deal....
Not sure anyone will win out of that deal....
Except maybe the juice sellers.
ManlyTragic
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Loose’n up Ryan! They are the only team on the ladder who are below us! Who else can we pick on?
Just sayin’
frank stokes
I discriminate indiscriminately
Yeah gotta admit they were poor today but the squeels are a top 4-6 side...
i still think they will be better than plenty of teams, but certainly not top 8 material at this point...
voicefromthehill
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I will laugh at them, we constantly beat ourselves up for not keeping every up and coming youngster - but our team is at least there or thereabouts. They are a basket case and don't know how to be a club, and I suspect it stems from being gutted by Mr Elias with his leagues club deal
Imagine having a team with these players -
Can I present to you
Nathan Brown (not the old St George Nathan - the mongrel lock for Parra)
Curtis Sironen
Marty Tapau
Andrew Fifita
Mitchell Moses
Josh Addo-Carr
Marika Koroibete
James Tedesco
If they had other players to replace them in the lineup then - ok well played recruiters
But they didn't, and that is the basis of a team that would push for a premiership
Imagine having a team with these players -
Can I present to you
Nathan Brown (not the old St George Nathan - the mongrel lock for Parra)
Curtis Sironen
Marty Tapau
Andrew Fifita
Mitchell Moses
Josh Addo-Carr
Marika Koroibete
James Tedesco
If they had other players to replace them in the lineup then - ok well played recruiters
But they didn't, and that is the basis of a team that would push for a premiership
madmax
Bencher
Add Paseka, Aloiai to that list!
The Who
Journey Man
And Papsmear.
voicefromthehill
Bencher
The list goes on and on! I always put him down to a failing of the eels being a boy from Kellyville
voicefromthehill
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AlxFromNthNarra
Rarely does big posts worth reading....maybe
The poor Tigers are a lesson for other clubs on how not to operate.
For mine, they are a prime example of how the back-office administration team (CEO and board - the white-collar team) can effectively ruin a club through poor decision making and incompetence.
Given we have just watched our CEO/CFO leave, their replacements become of high importance to get right - If we get it wrong, we can end up like the Tigers basically. Except we have the benefit of a stronger pathways program from youth, and better systems that aren't reliant on flashy facilities.
Thankfully the merger hangover of the Northern Eagles days are all but exorcised - to me it seems the Tigpies have a weird symbiosis between the Western Suburbs magpies owning the assets and making the money via their leagues club - which is just a pokies leech. But which Leagues club isn't nowadays...Penrith are rich off the misery of their supporters, with Panthers holding the largest amount of Pokies in a single venue in the southern hemisphere I believe... The Tigers on the other hand contribute the mascot and management. **** deal for the Magpies.
Even the last time I went to Manly leagues - and this will be an unpopular comment probably - it was disappointing to see how much of the floorspace was dedicated to these life-sucking parasite pokies. Maybe the disposable income on the beaches isn't as precarious as out west - small consolation I know... Yet desipte this discrepancy in funding supply, the Tigers are in control of the board, and have retained their emblem for the team. This must be infuriating for the Wests-originating members.
The well-documented failures of recruitment and retention at the Tigers are a symptom of the fall in prestige of the club that once boasted an envious roster in the mid-2000's, to being a perennial also-ran with a system of loyalty and pride for the club seemingly MIA. Tigers-bred players are itching to not only test their value on the market, but test their application to a superior culture, which nurtures their aspirations over the limited period their career spans.
Better to plug into a system like the Storm/Rooters/Souths (and even Manly nowadays) than chance it with the Tigers as a marquee player - where even presiding over the club's best finish in a decade (ie 9th again) is criticised as under-performing. Scrutiny then follows from the horrible NRL media scum, with harsh commentary on value and ROI - no player wants that **** - they just want to play footy.
Sad times for them - it felt like Manly were on the verge of this decline as well not too long ago in the Barrett era, with the focus on importing proven success (to no avail) becoming a hallmark of Barrett's resume, continuing with the current Bulldogs stable. When Barrett couldn't develop and lean on facilities to attract players, his value proposition at Manly collapsed. This priority, over developing youth and systems (that for example Gould has help build at the Panthers), is paying off in spades now at Panthers, and at Manly too (to a lesser extent due to the smaller funding base). Thankfully we had Bozo to help insulate us from Barrett's taint - and the Dogs have imported Gould for similar reasons. Anyway I digress.
The challenge for the Tigers is their board is so inept, that they thought bringing in a permiership-winning coach like Macguire would magically solve their problems. It is not that simple, and Macguire has been shown up as being no Craig Bellamy, Wayne Bennett or Des. It has not panned out, but it is Macguire who is wearing the culpability in the way a **** board of directors knew he would. Shame, and overhaul needed in the backrooms of that club to escape this viscious cycle of underachievement.
Pray we get the C-level team at Manly to avoid this happening to us.
For mine, they are a prime example of how the back-office administration team (CEO and board - the white-collar team) can effectively ruin a club through poor decision making and incompetence.
Given we have just watched our CEO/CFO leave, their replacements become of high importance to get right - If we get it wrong, we can end up like the Tigers basically. Except we have the benefit of a stronger pathways program from youth, and better systems that aren't reliant on flashy facilities.
Thankfully the merger hangover of the Northern Eagles days are all but exorcised - to me it seems the Tigpies have a weird symbiosis between the Western Suburbs magpies owning the assets and making the money via their leagues club - which is just a pokies leech. But which Leagues club isn't nowadays...Penrith are rich off the misery of their supporters, with Panthers holding the largest amount of Pokies in a single venue in the southern hemisphere I believe... The Tigers on the other hand contribute the mascot and management. **** deal for the Magpies.
Even the last time I went to Manly leagues - and this will be an unpopular comment probably - it was disappointing to see how much of the floorspace was dedicated to these life-sucking parasite pokies. Maybe the disposable income on the beaches isn't as precarious as out west - small consolation I know... Yet desipte this discrepancy in funding supply, the Tigers are in control of the board, and have retained their emblem for the team. This must be infuriating for the Wests-originating members.
The well-documented failures of recruitment and retention at the Tigers are a symptom of the fall in prestige of the club that once boasted an envious roster in the mid-2000's, to being a perennial also-ran with a system of loyalty and pride for the club seemingly MIA. Tigers-bred players are itching to not only test their value on the market, but test their application to a superior culture, which nurtures their aspirations over the limited period their career spans.
Better to plug into a system like the Storm/Rooters/Souths (and even Manly nowadays) than chance it with the Tigers as a marquee player - where even presiding over the club's best finish in a decade (ie 9th again) is criticised as under-performing. Scrutiny then follows from the horrible NRL media scum, with harsh commentary on value and ROI - no player wants that **** - they just want to play footy.
Sad times for them - it felt like Manly were on the verge of this decline as well not too long ago in the Barrett era, with the focus on importing proven success (to no avail) becoming a hallmark of Barrett's resume, continuing with the current Bulldogs stable. When Barrett couldn't develop and lean on facilities to attract players, his value proposition at Manly collapsed. This priority, over developing youth and systems (that for example Gould has help build at the Panthers), is paying off in spades now at Panthers, and at Manly too (to a lesser extent due to the smaller funding base). Thankfully we had Bozo to help insulate us from Barrett's taint - and the Dogs have imported Gould for similar reasons. Anyway I digress.
The challenge for the Tigers is their board is so inept, that they thought bringing in a permiership-winning coach like Macguire would magically solve their problems. It is not that simple, and Macguire has been shown up as being no Craig Bellamy, Wayne Bennett or Des. It has not panned out, but it is Macguire who is wearing the culpability in the way a **** board of directors knew he would. Shame, and overhaul needed in the backrooms of that club to escape this viscious cycle of underachievement.
Pray we get the C-level team at Manly to avoid this happening to us.
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Mitchell Pearce.... The list goes on
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