[Resurrected] Lol @ Parra

Terry Zarsoff said:
If the NRL give them a slap on the wrist with a canary feather, don't be surprised if the Squall come after the NRL to have those premierships reinstated.

The only discernible difference (that I can see) between what the Storm did and Faecalmatta's actions, is that Melbourne actually had results as a consequence of their cheating. Faecalmatta have nothing to show for it.

You would also think that a club that lost a GF to a team that were deliberately cheating the cap in 2009, would have more sense than to try it on themselves.

How ethically bankrupt are they, not to mention monumentally stupid?
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"Every football club has the governance it deserves"
 
There is one common denominator in parra's salary cap cheating - Arthur was assistant coach at the storm when they got caught and now coach of parra

he is so desperate for success and is the type who will do anything to win a comp.
 
I am pretty disgusted at the Eels actions. How many players have they taken from us in the last few years.

Now I know we can all say we were better off without them etc etc and not all of them have worked out at Parra however the constant targeting of our players with these massive overs deals that are salary cap illegal absolutely have had an effect on our roster and also destabilised our club
 
Parramatta Eels: Superstar winger Semi Radradra caught up in salary cap fiasco
SPECIAL INVESTIGATION Nick Tabakoff Editor-at-LargeThe Daily Telegraph

THE Parramatta Eels’ current head of football, Daniel Anderson, is at the centre of new evidence the club guaranteed hundreds of thousands of dollars of third-party payments to star players including club captain Tim Mannah and gun winger Semi Radradra, in breach of NRL salary cap rules.

Confidential Eels emails obtained by The Daily Telegraph also show Anderson was in active discussions with Eels chairman Steve Sharp and deputy chairman Tom Issa about solving the club’s salary cap problems by “obtaining TPA (third party agreement) support for any newly acquired or extended contract negotiations”.

Another email gives an intriguing insight into the key role of TPAs in some players’ total packages at the Eels. It shows that on February 20, 2014, Anderson personally prepared Issa for the negotiation of Mannah’s contract until the end of the 2017 season.

The email begins: “Tom, For your discussion (concerning Mannah’s contract)” — and goes on to outline a package to be offered that incorporates $225,000 of TPA payments, or $75,000 a year. This component forms an integral part of Mannah’s proposed three-year deal — with the TPAs apparently intrinsic to the contract. The payments beef up Mannah’s contract to “a total package worth $1,285,000 over three years”.

Five days later Anderson sent another email to club officials outlining a beefed-up package for NSW Origin player Mannah worth $1.32 million, or $35,000 more than the initial offer, over three years — again, incorporating a guaranteed $225,000 in TPAs over the period. This appears to follow the negotiations with Mannah’s representatives.

In another email to Anderson dated May 20, 2014, the contract of Eels star Semi Radradra, one of the NRL’s form players, is discussed. A representative of Radradra tells Anderson what he needs “to get this deal done”. He requests “an additional $35K TPA” for the remainder of 2014, adding Radradra “needs this cash urgently to send back home (to Fiji) for a family issue”.

The email suggests Radradra be paid $1.375 million over four years to 2018, plus the $35,000 TPA for 2014, “to close this deal out”.

Meanwhile, on March 17, 2014, Anderson sent another email, this time addressed to both Issa and Sharp, outlining the club’s dire salary cap situation for 2015 and the role of TPAs in solving it.

Anderson notes in the email that, because of its salary cap problems, the club has “not catered” for a number of its players, including Vai Toutai, Willie Tonga, Joseph Paulo, Ben Smith and Ken Sio.

He suggests offloading players such as “Chris Sandow, Mitchell Allgood, Brenden Santi, Ryan Morgan”, and offering “TPA support” for “any newly acquired or extended contract negotiations”.

This appears to contradict the NRL’s salary cap rules, which require TPAs to be at “arm’s length”, and not to be organised as part of contract negotiations with the club.

In recent weeks The Telegraph has revealed a raft of internal documents that point to a systemic culture of using TPAs to flout NRL salary cap rules. Anderson concludes in his email: “Bottom line is we are not healthy …. another issue is our dumped contracts (Cheyse Blair and Jake Mullaney) already occupy 140k in (the) 2nd tier (salary cap) next year”.

In his Feb 20 email Anderson talks of offering Sandow a termination settlement, in the context of Eels salary cap issues. “We would have to allow for approximately 120k to be placed in 2015 Salary Cap.”

There is no suggestion that any of the players mentioned in this article have done anything wrong.

All of the emails in this story are from 2014, the year after Eels chairman Sharp and deputy chairman Issa took office. Recently, Sharp has defended the current Eels board’s track record, claiming that many of its problems have come from past administrations: “What’s different about the Eels these days is that we have better processes in place and an utter determination to improve our head office,” he said last month.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...o/news-story/da7613202fa929c1e53180c6c52f57de
 
Eagleheart said:
Parramatta Eels: Superstar winger Semi Radradra caught up in salary cap fiasco
SPECIAL INVESTIGATION Nick Tabakoff Editor-at-LargeThe Daily Telegraph

THE Parramatta Eels’ current head of football, Daniel Anderson, is at the centre of new evidence the club guaranteed hundreds of thousands of dollars of third-party payments to star players including club captain Tim Mannah and gun winger Semi Radradra, in breach of NRL salary cap rules.

Confidential Eels emails obtained by The Daily Telegraph also show Anderson was in active discussions with Eels chairman Steve Sharp and deputy chairman Tom Issa about solving the club’s salary cap problems by “obtaining TPA (third party agreement) support for any newly acquired or extended contract negotiations”.

Another email gives an intriguing insight into the key role of TPAs in some players’ total packages at the Eels. It shows that on February 20, 2014, Anderson personally prepared Issa for the negotiation of Mannah’s contract until the end of the 2017 season.

The email begins: “Tom, For your discussion (concerning Mannah’s contract)” — and goes on to outline a package to be offered that incorporates $225,000 of TPA payments, or $75,000 a year. This component forms an integral part of Mannah’s proposed three-year deal — with the TPAs apparently intrinsic to the contract. The payments beef up Mannah’s contract to “a total package worth $1,285,000 over three years”.

Five days later Anderson sent another email to club officials outlining a beefed-up package for NSW Origin player Mannah worth $1.32 million, or $35,000 more than the initial offer, over three years — again, incorporating a guaranteed $225,000 in TPAs over the period. This appears to follow the negotiations with Mannah’s representatives.

In another email to Anderson dated May 20, 2014, the contract of Eels star Semi Radradra, one of the NRL’s form players, is discussed. A representative of Radradra tells Anderson what he needs “to get this deal done”. He requests “an additional $35K TPA” for the remainder of 2014, adding Radradra “needs this cash urgently to send back home (to Fiji) for a family issue”.

The email suggests Radradra be paid $1.375 million over four years to 2018, plus the $35,000 TPA for 2014, “to close this deal out”.

Meanwhile, on March 17, 2014, Anderson sent another email, this time addressed to both Issa and Sharp, outlining the club’s dire salary cap situation for 2015 and the role of TPAs in solving it.

Anderson notes in the email that, because of its salary cap problems, the club has “not catered” for a number of its players, including Vai Toutai, Willie Tonga, Joseph Paulo, Ben Smith and Ken Sio.

He suggests offloading players such as “Chris Sandow, Mitchell Allgood, Brenden Santi, Ryan Morgan”, and offering “TPA support” for “any newly acquired or extended contract negotiations”.

This appears to contradict the NRL’s salary cap rules, which require TPAs to be at “arm’s length”, and not to be organised as part of contract negotiations with the club.

In recent weeks The Telegraph has revealed a raft of internal documents that point to a systemic culture of using TPAs to flout NRL salary cap rules. Anderson concludes in his email: “Bottom line is we are not healthy …. another issue is our dumped contracts (Cheyse Blair and Jake Mullaney) already occupy 140k in (the) 2nd tier (salary cap) next year”.

In his Feb 20 email Anderson talks of offering Sandow a termination settlement, in the context of Eels salary cap issues. “We would have to allow for approximately 120k to be placed in 2015 Salary Cap.”

There is no suggestion that any of the players mentioned in this article have done anything wrong.

All of the emails in this story are from 2014, the year after Eels chairman Sharp and deputy chairman Issa took office. Recently, Sharp has defended the current Eels board’s track record, claiming that many of its problems have come from past administrations: “What’s different about the Eels these days is that we have better processes in place and an utter determination to improve our head office,” he said last month.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...o/news-story/da7613202fa929c1e53180c6c52f57de
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Dunno why it's so hard for the NRL. Mannah and Radradra caught up in the cap scandal? Are they current Eels players? Therefore they are rorting the cap for this year aswell as the previous years. They have an unfair advantage in this current competition. Honestly it should've been clear before these leaks, the one year in which they assemble some decent players and string some wins, we should've known they were cheating. There's no way they could've done this fairly.
 
Just put them down already. Bring out. The blanket and a long arm, and start the tractor because this race is over.
 
Sooky Pants laughed off any issues 'Brad protects us from these things, we don't read the papers'
To which DUI Becks said 'the Players will realize that they are affected, when the NRL deducts 10 points' 😀

Webster reckons that Parra will lose 4 if the Board resigns and 10 if they don't @:cool:
 
HappilyManly said:
Sooky Pants laughed off any issues 'Brad protects us from these things, we don't read the papers'
To which DUI Becks said 'the Players will realize that they are affected, when the NRL deducts 10 points' 😀

Webster reckons that Parra will lose 4 if the Board resigns and 10 if they don't @:cool:
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lol

foz just means he doesn't know how to read....he assumes only his coach is that smart!

or

if they're protected from the issues.....he should've been totally surprised and answered I don't know to everything.

It'd be unlike foz to lie wouldn't it?



anyway - it's only the media saying it but four points or 2 games (well wins for parra so maybe 20 games) ....but 2 games 160 mins of footy for salary cap breaches that are rivalling the storm? no way. a year's minimum.

They've picked a great time to be busted. Right when the nrl need some westie support, parra can get away with everything.
 
The NRL investigation is really moving so fast, they must have commissioned Richo to sort this out

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The stupid thing is that the previous 2 clubs found rorting have come out and won the premiership within 2 years of their punishment.

Dogs got caught in 2002 and won in 2004 and Melbourne I think was 2011 and won the next year.

Even though they were both supposed to lose players to get back under the cap, they had such a great roster, losing one or 2 didn't hurt them.

Let's hope the slime aren't allowed to keep all their players and win in the next couple of years.

It would be an incentive for all teams to just flout the rules and suffer pain for one year to get a title the next.
 
As much as i want the NRL to have them punished already, the fact remains that if there is more and more evidence being uncovered each day the NRL would have to collect all the evidence before they issue the penalty. No point (other than our satisfaction) issuing a 4 point deduction now and uncovering more and then changing it to 10pts or whatever later on. Being optimistic with those deductions as i have zero confidence in the NRL about anything, but they need to have satisfied themselves with all the evidence before they proceed to sweep it under the rug. Can't have the NRL look like they have missed something that might get brought up by the media again.
 
MadMarcus said:
There's enough evidence already to make them play for no points for a year. I can't understand why there is even talk for 4 points or even 10 points.
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I agree completely. Say they deduct four points and Parra still scrapes into the Eight. Then all the other teams fall over and they win the bloody thing, while everyone knows that they are cheats.
PR Disaster.
The NRL is playing with zero integrity if they choose this path.
 
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