Lawton and Send off rule

[eagleron]

It wasn't a send off. 10 min yes. 2 or 3 weeks at the MRC probably but if you get sent for that there is something wrong in the game.
There was no malicious intent. It was a very strong hit that went wrong in part due to Souths players twisting motion.
Sloppy yes so 10 in the bin would have been fair.

Atkins couldn't put his finger up quickly enough, that bastard has hated us ever since AFB accused him of cheating against the Knights

 

[Ryan]

Atkins couldn't put his finger up quickly enough, that bastard has hated us ever since AFB accused him of cheating against the Knights

At the end of the game did you see his face when he shook the Rabbits players hands? Completely inappropriate, and suggested something fishy to me..

 

[eagleron]

In any endeavour that relies upon a human's ability to succeed .. must by definition be also subject to failure at the hands of a human's inability.

You will never get consistency where humans are involved

I seriously doubt the human origins of some of the whistle blowers 😉

 

[eagleron]

Was that Mansour ?

Yes it was, trying to make foz look like the one eyed referee

 

[Ryan]

Atkins couldn't put his finger up quickly enough, that bastard has hated us ever since AFB accused him of cheating against the Knights

Check this out mate (I made a tweet about it). Look at the snickers, and little love tap between these two directly after a game that included us basically get no 6 again sets, and a player sent off! To me, this is unethical !

https://twitter.com/x/status/1520292313612054530

 

[eagleron]

Check this out mate (I made a tweet about it). Look at the snickers, and little love tap between these two directly after a game that included us basically get no 6 again sets, and a player sent off! To me, this is unethical !

https://twitter.com/x/status/1520292313612054530

Frigging grub

 

[Ryan]

Frigging grub

I tweeted it just a minute or so ago, and it's gone bananas straight away (people commenting and retweeting haha)

 

[double hoops]

He deserved to be sent off. And he'll probably miss another 4 weeks on top of that.

 

[globaleagle]

I tweeted it just a minute or so ago, and it's gone bananas straight away (people commenting and retweeting haha)

Even Gavin Badger responded.

edit: I thought it was also disrespectful for the ref to simply point his finger like he's some sort of all knowing demi god.

wanker

Lawton should've asked what he was pointing at and stayed on until told he was sent off.

refs want respect, try showing it both ways.

 

[Uk eagle]

The send off call was the correct one, however aggrieved we may feel about it. There may not have been any malice in it and the reaction of the souths players bears this out but the end result is the same. If it happened against one of our players and there was no action taken or even 10 minutes we'd be blowing up deluxe. I'm pretty happy with the response from the rest of the team for the rest of the game and hope we can carry that forward

 

[castle eagle]

NRL 2022: Karl Lawton breaks silence on Cameron Murray tackle, send-off drama​

A remorseful Karl Lawton has spoken out after his tackle gone wrong on Cameron Murray, revealing he broke down in tears after being sent off.

A remorseful Manly forward Karl Lawton has spoken about his send-off nightmare, claiming he was “praying there was nothing wrong” with his victim, South Sydney captain Cameron Murray.
Lawton told his story exclusively to The Sunday Telegraph just hours after being controversially dismissed for a lifting tackle on Murray which will result in a whopping four to five week suspension.

The Sea Eagles forward said he was “heartbroken and shattered” after breaking down in tears inside his side’s losing dressing room.

Despite jumping to an unexpected 10-2 lead with 12 men, a courageous Manly was worn down by a South side which claimed a 40-22 win in Gosford with Lawton declaring: “It was painful to watch. I’m really sorry for what happened.”

While apologising to teammates post-game, Lawton also sent a message of regret through social media to Murray.

“I was praying there was nothing wrong with him,” Lawton said.

A popular member of Manly’s team, Lawton hoped the NRL would show some leniency, insisting the tackle was an “accident” and that he was a “cleanskin.”

Lawton was charged with grade three dangerous throw by the NRL match review committee and is facing a four to five match suspension.

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The rugby league community was split over Lawton dismissal with Nine’s Phil Gould saying: “To be sent off for that, when there is absolutely no injury to the other player, that’s extraordinary.”

Gould’s argument was countered on Fox Sports’ Greg Alexander claiming: “I thought it was a send-off offence.”

THE EMOTION

A distraught Lawton, 26, watched his teammates attempt to overcome heavy physical adversity for 72 minutes of Friday night’s match.

“It was awful. I got sent off in the first 10 minutes so watching 70 minutes of footy with 12 of my mates out there on the paddock – all busting their arses – against 13 players, it was painful to watch,” Lawton said.

“It was like a slow burn for me, really. I was shattered after the game. I was pretty emotional. I admit I got upset. I felt every emotion under the sun after the tackle.

“It’s not a good feeling letting your teammates down. I let the fans down as well.

“I said sorry to everyone (his Manly teammates). I shook everyone’s hands and said: ‘Sorry, this one is on me.’

“They were really good. They said not to worry about it, it’s a game of footy. Mistakes happen and they were super supportive of me.

“The boys were outstanding with 12 players but it’s always tough to win when it’s 12 against 13. It was hard to watch.”

Asked if he was in tears, Lawton said: “Yeah. No matter which way you look at it, I feel terrible for what happened, obviously. I can’t tell you how bad I feel.”
THE TACKLE

Lawton lifted Murray over the horizontal and thrust him into the ground. The Sea Eagles forward wants it known that the tackle wasn’t deliberate or malicious.

“It was purely an accident. I just got down low and as I came up I assumed someone was over the top,” he said. “But with momentum – and in the heat of a match – it sort of went wrong.

“You make 40-odd tackles a game. If you do that week-in, week-out, there’s bound to be an error somewhere. We were right on our line and I was trying to stop a try.

“I’m a clean skin. I couldn’t tell you the last time something happened to me. It would have been three, four years ago, something like that. I wear my heart on my sleeve and I try 100 percent every game.

“With this accident, it is what it is. It’s done now but it doesn’t take away how terrible I feel about it. It was an accident and my record is clean.”

THE AFTERMATH

Lawton was unaware of his charge when conducting this interview.

He desperately hoped the NRL would show some mercy, saying: “I really don’t want to be that guy who is made an example of. I pride myself on my playing ability and my clean playing style.

“It would be heartbreaking to be the player the NRL makes an example of out of this. I’m just praying the judiciary sees it that way.”

Told the game was played at a ferocious speed, Lawton said: “You’re right. Exactly. I hope the judiciary takes that into account.

“It was an accident so I just hope they can go easy on me.

“In the heat of the battle, accidents happen. I hope they can see some sort of silver lining to this.”

THE OPPONENT

Lawton reached out to Murray, a player the Manly forward respects.

“I messaged Cameron through Instagram after the game and said: “Hope you’re okay, I feel awful.’ I’m not sure he has seen it yet,” Lawton said.

“He got straight up after the tackle, which I was grateful for. He had every right to have a go at me but he didn’t which was good. I was just glad he was okay.

“I was praying there was nothing wrong with him. Cameron’s a tremendous player and is as tough as nails. I’m really sorry for what happened.”

Lawton can take the early plea and accept a four-match suspension or try and fight the charge before an NRL judiciary panel on Tuesday night.

Should Lawton be found guilty at the hearing, his ban would increase to five games. With an early plea, Lawton would return in round 13 against the Warriors at 4 Pines Park.

Manly has until Sunday to lodge a plea

WHAT GUS GOULD GOT SO WRONG ON SEND OFF

—David Riccio

If you’ve sat across from Alex McKinnon teaching himself how to use a fork and spoon again, you wouldn’t question the send-off of Manly’s Karl Lawton on Friday night.

When you understand that McKinnon can no longer grip a pen, you would have no issue with Lawton missing 71-minutes of a football game.

He will be back on the field this year.

McKinnon will be using a professional carer to help him each day for the rest of his life.

NRL referee Grant Atkins should be applauded.

Lawton was sent-off from Central Coast Stadium because the tackle he performed could’ve ended with a catastrophic repercussions.

Thankfully, it didn’t.

Lawton is a lucky man this morning.

Even Manly coach Des Hasler, usually defiant towards the NRL, couldn’t fault the outcome.

The man Lawton tackled, South Sydney captain Cameron Murray, is even luckier.

Imagine Murray’s parents watching that tackle.

Imagine Murray’s family hearing the safety of their son - of any player - isn’t as important as the “product” or TV ratings?

Lawton hit Murray in the midsection, drove with the momentum of the tackle, the force driving Murray up - and here’s where it goes wrong - before both his feet left the ground.

At that point, he lost all control of the tackle.

The onus in rugby league is on the defender to ensure the tackle doesn’t go wrong.

Thankfully, Murray swivels his torso, in mid-air, just enough to land on the high-point of his left shoulder.

One slight movement the other way and Murray lands directly on his head.

Any suggestion that the send-off was some type of square-up, retribution or make-do from the NRL for failing to sin bin Roosters winger Daniel Tupou for clocking Dragons winger Mikaele Ravalawa with a swinging arm on ANZAC Day is ridiculous.

The worst Ravalawa could‘ve suffered was a broken nose, fractured cheekbone or mild concussion.

They are all injuries which are painful and disruptive to a footballer’s career.

But not as indignant as showering every day for the rest of your life in a chair.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-2022-why-karl-lawton-sendoff-was-the-right-call-manly-sea-eagles-vs-rabbitohs/news-story/e446acf68fdf474fd80f020fc05cceaf

 

[globaleagle]

I heard one commentator say it's only the second send off for a spear tackle since the super league era.

So wow, only two tackles like that in all those years. How disciplined the players are.

the mrc echo chamber rolls on.

Shoulda just given him a clothesline tackle.

Anyone know how refs are actually chosen for games?

 

[Captain Moondog]

I seriously doubt the human origins of some of the whistle blowers 😉

The original two NRL refs. They also provided the half time entertainment. All present day referees are descended from them.

 

[Shoe1]

The article needs an edit. The “I prayed for him” line is quoted four times.

The McKinnon knife and fork, pen and shower chair references are insulting and pathetic.

The reference to broken noses, jaws and cheekbones as being somehow no big deal is weird, and a fallacy. If any of those resulted from the tupou tackle it would have been worse than what Lawton did.

I’m not belittling what Lawton did, and agree with the sendoff and 4 weeks. The article however is an insult to our intelligence and should not have been published in this form.

 

[globaleagle]

The article needs an edit. The “I prayed for him” line is quoted four times.

The McKinnon knife and fork, pen and shower chair references are insulting and pathetic.

The reference to broken noses, jaws and cheekbones as being somehow no big deal is weird, and a fallacy. If any of those resulted from the tupou tackle it would have been worse than what Lawton did.

I’m not belittling what Lawton did, and agree with the sendoff and 4 weeks. The article however is an insult to our intelligence and should not have been published in this form.

I'm guessing he could have written the same 'won't someone think of his family' diatribe regarding the Toupou (sp) clothesline last week but well... you know

 

[Brissie Kid]

The Tupou tackle imo should have also taken into account that he had time and 20metres or more to decide how/where to make the tackle/impact on the Dragons player.

 

[Ryan]

Even Gavin Badger responded.

edit: I thought it was also disrespectful for the ref to simply point his finger like he's some sort of all knowing demi god.

wanker

Lawton should've asked what he was pointing at and stayed on until told he was sent off.

refs want respect, try showing it both ways.

What people on Twitter don't get is this:

If a team has a player sent off in the first few minutes, followed by not receiving any 6 agains (basically), followed by a flogging, laughing it up with the opposition captain immediately after the whistle isn't a good look.

I can COMPLETELY understand a hand shake and a thanks, between a ref and player.

But for mine, this was really poor EQ, and situational awareness. You have to read the feel of the event.

I also get it's much a do about nothing, but jeez it triggered me. After rewatching the game, we did actually have a real dig, apart from a few clunkers (but that won't happen again).

I'm also going through the responders timeline who are all having a go at me, and retweeting their abuse of referees and officials to highlight the hypocrisy, which brings out the abuse. I stirred up a real hornets nest, and love it , being on holidays and a bit bored hahaha.

 

[Shoe1]

I’m a Tele journalist.

This morning I walked the dog. However Alex McKinnon has trouble putting one foot in front of the other.

 

[wombatgc]

What people on Twitter don't get is this:

If a team has a player sent off in the first few minutes, followed by not receiving any 6 agains (basically), followed by a flogging, laughing it up with the opposition captain immediately after the whistle isn't a good look.

I can COMPLETELY understand a hand shake and a thanks, between a ref and player.

But for mine, this was really poor EQ, and situational awareness. You have to read the feel of the event.

I also get it's much a do about nothing, but jeez it triggered me. After rewatching the game, we did actually have a real dig, apart from a few clunkers (but that won't happen again).

I'm also going through the responders timeline who are all having a go at me, and retweeting their abuse of referees and officials to highlight the hypocrisy, which brings out the abuse. I stirred up a real hornets nest, and love it , being on holidays and a bit bored hahaha.

I can’t wait till Elon Musk takes over Twitter and in his own words "gets rid of the woke leftist administration".

*Im only new to Twitter, but I knew they were harsh on what you can say. I’m currently on a 6 day ban (second one). Fair enough the first one. I called Germaine Greer, an old dirty dyke. But my current one I called someone a ‘moron’.
I’d love to see @mickqld get on there and give one of his almighty sprays!…I think he’d blow up the Twitter algorithm for naughty words.

 

[Karshy]

What people on Twitter don't get is this:

If a team has a player sent off in the first few minutes, followed by not receiving any 6 agains (basically), followed by a flogging, laughing it up with the opposition captain immediately after the whistle isn't a good look.

I can COMPLETELY understand a hand shake and a thanks, between a ref and player.

But for mine, this was really poor EQ, and situational awareness. You have to read the feel of the event.

I also get it's much a do about nothing, but jeez it triggered me. After rewatching the game, we did actually have a real dig, apart from a few clunkers (but that won't happen again).

I'm also going through the responders timeline who are all having a go at me, and retweeting their abuse of referees and officials to highlight the hypocrisy, which brings out the abuse. I stirred up a real hornets nest, and love it , being on holidays and a bit bored hahaha.

Didnt you get the memo mate? Manly havent got any ruck infringement set restarts for the last two weeks. All of a sudden our opponents are saints!
Our player gets sent off for something that has been, at worst, a sin bin for the last 20 years.
Souths player doesnt even get penalised for an eye gouge shown on camera about 50 times during the game. (ironic given the last player who i can remember getting in trouble for an eye gouge played for the same club, 10 weeks suspension and the officials got condemned for not sending him off lol)
Bunker was clearly trying to find a way to overturn an obvious penalty try.
Then to top it off at the end they rule a pass forward that was clearly backwards that cost Garrick a try.
Laughing in that way with the Rabbitohs captain is triggering, but it could be for any number of things said that dont relate to the game. I think we are all just pissed off that we dont seem to be getting a fair rub of the green from the officials at present.