Keith Titmuss RIP

[davohan123]

Coronial investigation launched into shock death of rising Manly star

Detectives have begun interviewing Manly players and officials. An inquest has been earmarked to determine why the 20-year-old collapsed at training and later died.

www.smh.com.au

 

[pt73]

Coronial investigation launched into shock death of rising Manly star

Detectives have begun interviewing Manly players and officials. An inquest has been earmarked to determine why the 20-year-old collapsed at training and later died.

www.smh.com.au

I hope they also investigate what transpired at Northern Beaches Hospital that lead to him being sent to Royal North Shore Hospital.

My wife’s mother was there a few months ago and it was a nightmare with no idea of who was doing what and requests/orders from doctors not being followed.

 

[davohan123]

I hope they also investigate what transpired at Northern Beaches Hospital that lead to him being sent to Royal North Shore Hospital.

My wife’s mother was there a few months ago and it was a nightmare with no idea of who was doing what and requests/orders from doctors not being followed.

They are most certainly looking at that.

 

[Eagles4Life]

They are most certainly looking at that.

Yes and they are also looking pretty closely at the training methods being used at the time. The same training methods that influenced Nathan Gibbs leaving the club when the recommended changes he suggested, were not made by the football department .....
Sunday Telegraph article
AUSTRALIA’s most experienced sports doctor has quit Manly in a huge off-season blow.
We revealed this year Nathan Gibbs had been at odds with Manly’s head of high performance Don Singe and coach Des Hasler over the workload and treatment of players. At the time Sea Eagles stars Jake Trbojevic (hip), Josh Schuster (calf), Curtis Sironen (knee) and Cade Cust (hamstring) had all succumbed to injuries at training.

Gibbs has been involved in sports medicine for more than 35 years with NRL clubs, the Kangaroos, NSW Blues and Sydney Swans. He could not be contacted for comment.

Manly’s highly regarded head physio James Rahme has also quit the club to join GWS Giants in the AFL. Rahme had played a crucial role in helping superstar fullback Tom Trbojevic recover from his hamstring issues and the weekly management of the injury.

The Sunday Telegraph can reveal Gibbs recently asked Hasler to make staff changes on his high performance unit. The request was ignored … and so he quit.

 

[XV-1]

Coronial investigation launched into shock death of rising Manly star

Detectives have begun interviewing Manly players and officials. An inquest has been earmarked to determine why the 20-year-old collapsed at training and later died.

www.smh.com.au

I hope for the sake of the family and friends of Keith that this coronial investigation is done quickly and doesn't drag on as it's been too long already.

 

[Eagles4Life]

I hope for the sake of the family and friends of Keith that this colonial investigation is done quickly and doesn't drag on as it's been too long already.

I hope for the sake of the family and friends of Keith that this coronial investigation is done thoroughly, and they get the answers they deserve.

 

[Budgie]

A fit young athlete ... there was always going to be an investigation. It's such an awful thing that all of these wheels move so slowly. The family has had such a long time to wait.

 

[Jay Eagle]

Yes and they are also looking pretty closely at the training methods being used at the time. The same training methods that influenced Nathan Gibbs leaving the club when the recommended changes he suggested, were not made by the football department .....
Sunday Telegraph article
AUSTRALIA’s most experienced sports doctor has quit Manly in a huge off-season blow.
We revealed this year Nathan Gibbs had been at odds with Manly’s head of high performance Don Singe and coach Des Hasler over the workload and treatment of players. At the time Sea Eagles stars Jake Trbojevic (hip), Josh Schuster (calf), Curtis Sironen (knee) and Cade Cust (hamstring) had all succumbed to injuries at training.

Gibbs has been involved in sports medicine for more than 35 years with NRL clubs, the Kangaroos, NSW Blues and Sydney Swans. He could not be contacted for comment.

Manly’s highly regarded head physio James Rahme has also quit the club to join GWS Giants in the AFL. Rahme had played a crucial role in helping superstar fullback Tom Trbojevic recover from his hamstring issues and the weekly management of the injury.

The Sunday Telegraph can reveal Gibbs recently asked Hasler to make staff changes on his high performance unit. The request was ignored … and so he quit.

Just another media beat up piece aimed at disrupting our clubs performance.. move on nothing to see here.. just a couple of staff members leaving, and back of house staff, same thing happens at every club yet when it's Manly then it's a story... we even had a "story" about an admin staff member leaving i recall, absolute joke driven my journos who really hate our club based purley on jealousy since they where kids and that Manly hatred drummed into them at a young age... at every opportunity they stick the boot in under the guise of being reporters. Just look at the timing of this piece, nsw police did an initial investigation 2 years ago and now via the coroners office have been interviewing people months ago ( the article even mentions this) so why is it news worthy today..why not write the article last month, because the grubs are digging into anything that remotely casts the club into a dark place adding to the avalanche of negative Manly press.. they also have no regard for people, it's an investigation that's normal process so why drag the Titmus family into the public eye.

 

[SeaEagle007]

Coronial investigation launched into shock death of rising Manly star

Detectives have begun interviewing Manly players and officials. An inquest has been earmarked to determine why the 20-year-old collapsed at training and later died.

www.theage.com.au

Coronial investigation launched into shock death of rising Manly star​

By Michael Chammas and Mark Levy​

September 15, 2022 — 6.00pm
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A coronial investigation has been launched into the shock death of Manly Sea Eagles rising star Keith Titmuss.
An investigation is now under way to determine why the 20-year-old collapsed during a routine pre-season training session and later died in hospital on November 23, 2020. It could lead to a formal public inquest next year.

The family of former Manly NRL youngster Keith Titmuss is grieving his death; his mother Lafo and dad Paul.CREDIT:JAMES BRICKWOOD, NRL PHOTOS
While a date has not been set for a potential inquest, it has been indicated to the family that the matter, should it proceed, would be heard in June or July next year given a cause of death was unable to be determined in the initial report.
A number of Titmuss’ teammates and friends - including Manly’s Josh Schuster and Jason Saab, Wests Tigers prop Stefano Utoikamanu and Canterbury’s Matt Doorey - have been asked to cooperate with the investigation. Titmuss’ girlfriend has also been asked.

The NSW Coroners Court told the Herald: “This matter is still in the investigative stage. No hearing date has been set yet, and no subpoenas have been issued yet.”
A potential inquest is likely to examine the training methods of the Sea Eagles and the events that unfolded between Titmuss suffering a seizure at training in Narrabeen and later that day when he was pronounced dead at Royal North Shore Hospital.

Keith Titmuss and (inset, from top) Josh Schuster, Matt Doorey and Jason Saab.CREDIT:NRL PHOTOS, GETTY
Over the past month, detectives have been interviewing Sea Eagles players, medical staff and coaching staff.
“The Sea Eagles are assisting the coroner’s office with inquiries into the death of Keith Titmuss on 23 November, 2020,” Manly chief executive Tony Mestrov, who only started in the job last month, said.
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“The Sea Eagles understand that the Coroner may hold an inquest into the matter but no dates have been set for this.”
The statements of cardiologists, sports scientists, emergency physicians and various medical experts have also been requested.

Keith’s dad Paul, sister Zara, mother Lafo, brother Jesse and nephew Hudson looking at family photo albums as they remember the life of their loved one.CREDIT:JAMES BRICKWOOD/SYDNEY MORNING HERALD
Titmuss’ family have also undergone a series of medical examinations to determine whether there is a genetic link associated with his death. It s understood the family has since been cleared of any genetic concerns.
The initial autopsy provided no insight into Titmuss’ cause of death, while the toxicology report also showed no sign of drug use. His brain has also been donated to the Australian Sports Brain Bank for further research.

Statements from club officials and Titmuss’ family will be provided in the coronial brief being prepared.
“Officers from Northern Beaches Police Area Command are preparing a report for the information of the Coroner regarding the death of a 20-year-old man on Monday, November 23, 2020,” NSW Police told the Herald.

The Manly Sea Eagles honoured Keith Titmuss by hosting a memorial service at their training ground in Narrabeen last year.CREDIT:MANLY SEA EAGLES DIGITAL
For four months after Titmuss’ death, the family held the assumption the hospital turned off their son’s life support based on conversations with doctors that day.
“Why didn’t they give us the opportunity to say goodbye to him while he was still alive?” his grief-stricken mother Lafo Titmuss told the Herald last year.

“Who made the decision to turn the life support machine off without consulting or asking Paul [Keith’s father] and I? My understanding was he was still alive when we got there.”
Doctors worked for hours to try to resuscitate Titmuss but, despite attempting every possible intervention, could not get his blood to recirculate.

Gone but never forgotten. A tribute to Keith’s life is on display inside the family’s Austral home.CREDIT:JAMES BRICKWOOD
Royal North Shore Hospital’s director of medical services Philip Hoyle later contacted Keith’s parents to clarify the events that took place before their son died.
Sources with knowledge of the situation have told the Herald they believe Titmuss died before life support being applied, rather than dying because the machine was switched off. An ECMO machine had replaced the function of his heart and lungs.

Roger Harris, a senior intensive care doctor at RNSH, who could not speak specifically about the case and was not involved in the care of Titmuss, last year said under such devastating circumstances there is no decision to be made.
“Depending on who you get your strength from, it’s nature or God who makes those decisions in that setting,” said Harris who was treating another critical patient the day Keith died.

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“In critical cases, 25-odd staff can be working to resuscitate a patient surrounded by an enormous amount of equipment. A machine can be pumping the patient’s chest and ECMO [life support machine] uses tubes bigger than a garden hose into the groin to take blood to a bypass machine. In that incredibly confronting setting there is often no moment of stability to stop and let the family come in.”
After Titmuss collapsed, paramedics rushed him to Northern Beaches Hospital, with former Manly player Matt Ballin in the ambulance relaying information back to the family.

Ballin later called the family, who were three kilometres away from the hospital at the time, to notify them that Keith was being urgently transferred to Royal North Shore Hospital.
The family are also seeking answers as to why paramedics initially took Titmuss to Northern Beaches Hospital before being redirected to a major hospital (RNSH) with the required equipment.
The family is awaiting a date to meet with the NSW Crown Solicitor’s Office.
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[lsz]

It sounds like there are more questions over the time after he left the training ground than before. Of course that is not an interesting story / leads to a discussion about public health which is difficult

 

[MightyEagles]

I've always been concerned that Manly may have been pushing these men too much in the pre season. Remember we had a similar issue with Lloyd Perrett in a pre season

 

[lsz]

I've always been concerned that Manly may have been pushing these men too much in the pre season. Remember we had a similar issue with Lloyd Perrett in a pre season

This is the one

‘I thought I would die’: Manly forward Lloyd Perrett reveals life-threatening seizure

Manly forward feared for his life after shock training collapse

www.foxsports.com.au

To be fair that was under a different structure but it sounds like a fair bit was done

 

[Bearfax]

Very sad. I certainly hope this has not come about because of training methods, not because of my concern for the staff, but because if it was it should never have happened to one so young. I certainly hope Manly are not pushing these kids too far

 

[HK_Eagle]

Just another media beat up piece aimed at disrupting our clubs performance.. move on nothing to see here..

Umm... I think we managed that this season all by ourselves without the journalists' help.

 

[Under the Sticks]

Coronial inquiry announced to take place over 5 days in February 3 weeks before Round 1 in Vegas.

This will be a tough end to pre season and I hope the likes of Schu and Saab hold up.

Des is also likely to appear.

I hope the family finds some closure to this sad story.

 

[BOZO]

Coronial inquiry announced to take place over 5 days in February 3 weeks before Round 1 in Vegas.

This will be a tough end to pre season and I hope the likes of Schu and Saab hold up.

Des is also likely to appear.

I hope the family finds some closure to this sad story.

The family would feel comforted that our club has had their full support from the tragic start
The Premiership Winning Keith Titmuss will live for ever in our legendary Clubs Proud History

 

[Under the Sticks]

Coroner to hold public inquest into death of Manly player Keith Titmuss

A public inquest into the death of former Manly player Keith Titmuss will be held a fortnight before the Sea Eagles travel to Las Vegas for the historic NRL double-header.

The Herald can reveal the NSW Coroner’s Court has set aside five days in February to investigate the circumstances of Titmuss’ death after a pre-season training session in November 2020.

The inquest is expected to hear from Titmuss’ former teammates and former Manly staff – potentially including ex-coach Des Hasler – as the 20-year-old’s family search for answers.

Titmuss collapsed during a training session and died in hospital on November 23, 2020. An initial report was unable to identify a cause of death.

The inquest is expected to determine what was involved in the training session on the day Titmuss collapsed, and the events from when Titmuss was transported in an ambulance to later being pronounced dead at Royal North Shore Hospital.

Detectives interviewed Sea Eagles players, medical staff and coaching staff during their investigations, but there had been no guarantee it would result in a public inquest.

But on Friday, a NSW Coroner’s Court spokesman said in a statement: “The inquest has been listed for a five-day hearing before His Honour Deputy State Coroner Derek Lee at the NSW Coroner’s Court, Lidcombe, from February 5 to February 9, 2024.”

Titmuss’ former Manly teammates Josh Schuster and Jason Saab have been interviewed by police, as have close friends Wests Tigers prop Stefano Utoikamanu and Parramatta’s Matt Doorey.

Statements from cardiologists, sports scientists, emergency physicians and various medical experts were requested during the investigation, while Titmuss’ family members were tested to determine whether there was a genetic link to his death.

Titmuss’ family donated his brain to the Australian Sports Brain Bank for research.

The Sea Eagles posthumously named Titmuss as their 623rd first grade player and presented a Manly jersey with the number on it to his family. The forward was destined to play NRL, potentially as soon as the following season.

A number of former teammates have struggled to deal with the death of Titmuss, who scored Manly’s match-winning try during the 2019 National Youth Competition grand final.

Manly will be deep into their pre-season preparations when the inquest is held.

It will finish less than a fortnight before they travel to the US to play South Sydney in the opening match of the season at Allegiant Stadium.

The Sea Eagles will be the first of the four NRL teams to travel to America, and will spend their preparation exclusively in Las Vegas.

 

[bob dylan]

Bad timing but no doubt its very important for Keiths family.

 

[Keffola]

Bad timing but no doubt its very important for Keiths family.

Who knows, might be good timing if it provides closure for the players close to him too.

 

[Dion Johnson]

He won’t be forgotten’: Manly hope for answers and closure in Keith Titmuss inquest​

Manly chief executive Tony Mestrov hopes the inquest into the death of former player Keith Titmuss will lead to increased welfare for NRL stars and provide answers for Titmuss’s family.
Former Sea Eagles coach Des Hasler, members of his old support staff and Titmuss’ ex-teammates such as Josh Schuster, Moses Suli and Sione Fainu will all provide evidence during a coronial inquest, which starts on Monday.

It has been more than three years since 20-year-old Titmuss collapsed and later died after a Sea Eagles training session.
His death rocked the Manly club and wider rugby league community, and a coronial investigation was launched to determine the circumstances of his passing.

The coronial inquest, before deputy state coroner Derek Lee, is expected to last for more than a week.
Mestrov, who only joined the Sea Eagles in 2022, will attend the inquest along with other Manly officials.

Keith Titmuss died after a pre-season training session in 2020.CREDIT: NRL PHOTOS
In his only public comments before the inquest, Mestrov said he hoped it would help Titmuss’ family with the grieving process.
“The Manly Warringah Sea Eagles Rugby League Club expresses their condolences to Keith’s family and friends,” Mestrov said.

“Keith was highly respected by his teammates and coaching staff. Keith’s death both shocked and devastated the club’s staff and players. He won’t be forgotten.
“Manly welcomes the opportunity to be involved in the inquest, particularly because we’re hoping it might provide some answers for Keith’s family and manage the risks that come with playing elite sport. It’s a unique and important opportunity to enhance player safety and welfare.

“Manly prioritises player safety and welfare. We’ll continue to provide assistance and support to Keith’s teammates and friends.”
Titmuss, who was on the verge of making his NRL debut, was posthumously named Sea Eagles first grade player No.623. The club also presented a jersey with the number on it to his family.

The Sea Eagles’ NSW Cup and junior teams carried Titmuss’ initials on their playing jerseys the following season after his death.

But the family have been searching for answers ever since he suffered a seizure during a pre-summer training session at Narrabeen in November, 2020.
Paramedics rushed Titmuss to Northern Beaches Hospital before he was later transferred to Royal North Shore Hospital, where he died from cardiac arrest.
In an interview with the Herald after Titmuss’ death, his mother Lafo said: “As a parent, you never prepare your child for death. For us, it felt like he was by himself. He was going through something that he hadn’t thought of, nor contemplated that he’d ever have to go through.”

The inquest will happen in the same week the Sea Eagles prepare for their first official trial of the season against South Sydney at Gosford next Sunday.
The two teams will meet again in Las Vegas in the opening match of the NRL season.