June 30 Deadline

[Stewbojevic]

It’s getting close, are we any chance to sign someone before then?

With Paseka out for most of the year, Aloiai injured and Lodge a flop, we really need a middle.

Some poor roster management by the looks of it as we have 30 signed already. Guys like Schoup, James and Matterson aren’t NRL standard

 

[Frogz]

Only 9 days to get rid of anyone that we don't want.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Only 9 days to get rid of anyone that we don't want.

I can think of a few

 

[Eagle 1]

It’s getting close, are we any chance to sign someone before then?

With Paseka out for most of the year, Aloiai injured and Lodge a flop, we really need a middle.

Some poor roster management by the looks of it as we have 30 signed already. Guys like Schoup, James and Matterson aren’t NRL standard

Why we haven't offloaded or shopped out James out of our club by now is mystifying.

 

[Stewbojevic]

Why we haven't offloaded or shopped out James out of our club by now is mystifying.

Doubt anyone else wants him

 

[Kalvin]

With all these new teams coming in that are cashed up, I think it's going to be really hard to attract any players for the next few years unless we pay overs and or the offer of consistent fg games (if said player is behind others at current club)

 

[nightster]

With all these new teams coming in that are cashed up, I think it's going to be really hard to attract any players for the next few years unless we pay overs and or the offer of consistent fg games (if said player is behind others at current club)

or start promoting some of our juniors - this season is likely shot so why not give a few a chance to show up a few of our plodders

 

[Kalvin]

or start promoting some of our juniors - this season is likely shot so why not give a few a chance to show up a few of our plodders

Some fainus, humphries or weekes would have been handy... i am hopeful we still actually have some juniors that are ready for a shot.... besides Navale I don't hear much about others worthy of a shot? (However I am by no means across our juniors/nsw cup sides)

 

[BOZO]

Only 9 days to get rid of anyone that we don't want.

New coach
New approach
It rhymes
It is a sign of the times
Lets Do It
Nothing more to see with Seibold
We have seen enough

 

[Eagle 1]

Some fainus, humphries or weekes would have been handy... i am hopeful we still actually have some juniors that are ready for a shot.... besides Navale I don't hear much about others worthy of a shot? (However I am by no means across our juniors/nsw cup sides)

Out of those, only Weeks and Sione Fainu are the ones I'd want back. But the biggest miss is Preston, how did he slip through the net.

 

[BOZO]

Out of those, only Weeks and Sione Fainu are the ones I'd want back. But the biggest miss is Preston, how did he slip through the net.

We have not been able to recruit better players than we lose
We have sacked Scott Fulton who had recruited most of all those young players in our team and others that are playing against us
Who do we sack Now . Who is responsible for our Dads army Manly retirement recruitment .

Last but not least . The 4 year Brooks Bargain buy of the century Turned out to be We got t we paid for . We paid for a player that did not deliver at the Tigers and was released when they started a serious rebuilding new era and we got Nothing New from the same old Brooks .

 

[double hoops]

We have not been able to recruit better players than we lose
We have sacked Scott Fulton who had recruited most of all those young players in our team and others that are playing against us
Who do we sack Now . Who is responsible for our Dads army Manly retirement recruitment .

Last but not least . The 4 year Brooks Bargain buy of the century Turned out to be We got t we paid for . We paid for a player that did not deliver at the Tigers and was released when they started a serious rebuilding new era and we got Nothing New from the same old Brooks .

Generally you get what you pay for.

Until we are a club with some $$$$ it will be more of the same.

 

[BOZO]

Generally you get what you pay for.

Until we are a club with some $$$$ it will be more of the same.

Sometimes you can get Bargain buys and prosper with a proper coach
Proper coaches over achieve like Bellamy or Ciraldo that Brings out the Best out of those Bargain Buy players .
On the other hand if you have an underachieving Mediocre coach . He will have his team icludinng his star players underperforming.
This why a Clever coach is critical

 

[Disco]

Out of those, only Weeks and Sione Fainu are the ones I'd want back. But the biggest miss is Preston, how did he slip through the net.

Sione???

Do you mean Samuela?

 

[BOZO]

Sione???

Do you mean Samuela?

We mean all 3 of the Kebab brothers
They are ALL playing well

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Anyone available before June 30 will be aging journeymen.

Think we have enough of those

 

[Eagle 1]

Sione???

Do you mean Samuela?

No, Sione, Sam gets folded in tackles these days. Not the player he was when he was with us.

 

[double hoops]

Sometimes you can get Bargain buys and prosper with a proper coach
Proper coaches over achieve like Bellamy or Ciraldo that Brings out the Best out of those Bargain Buy players .
On the other hand if you have an underachieving Mediocre coach . He will have his team icludinng his star players underperforming.
This why a Clever coach is critical

Those two clubs as examples reinforces the need for $$$$ and a club willing to play the long game with a coach.

Storm and Bulldogs since Landy involved at dogs both are cashed up clubs.

Yes invested in a young coach with a long game plan. But $$$$$ spent on getting junior stars to the club and staffing far exceeding Manly.

At Manly Ciraldo would get the sack when the coach was trying to change a loser culture with a wrestling session that resulted in some players including their Captain at the time, throwing toys out of the cot.

Manly and Seibold might actually be in a very similar places right now. Captain DCE has absolutely thrown his toys out, and the culture of this group with Captain DCE has been crap, it needs change.

Manly won't back Seibold like Dogs backed Ciraldo at this same point. Club is too emotionally inclined to Sackings. But in any event Manly $$$$ just won't get recent premiership winning rep players like Button, Crichton, Kikau and Tuipinoua in during a re-build. Won't have the $$$$$ buying plenty of outstanding juniors to grow into the team. Dogs are stacked below right now and Storm have been for a decade.

No point us arguing over if Seibold is the right coach or a smart coach at the moment......

We need Manly successful, and moving forward, be that with or without Seibs as the Coach, it will need $$$$$ invested to get this club back being a premiership power house.

And who ever the coach, will need a club willing to give him time, let him piss of players who don't buy into his culture changing ways.

Just may be the problem at Manly is Manly. If $$$$ and time is what any smart coach needs. Is Manly the club where you can grow?

 

[bob dylan]

Anyone available before June 30 will be aging journeymen.

Think we have enough of those

Surely the Tigers have someone.

Brett Naden?

Adam Doeuhi?

Jack Bird?

 

[Brookie1973]

Those two clubs as examples reinforces the need for $$$$ and a club willing to play the long game with a coach.

Storm and Bulldogs since Landy involved at dogs both are cashed up clubs.

Yes invested in a young coach with a long game plan. But $$$$$ spent on getting junior stars to the club and staffing far exceeding Manly.

At Manly Ciraldo would get the sack when the coach was trying to change a loser culture with a wrestling session that resulted in some players including their Captain at the time, throwing toys out of the cot.

Manly and Seibold might actually be in a very similar places right now. Captain DCE has absolutely thrown his toys out, and the culture of this group with Captain DCE has been crap, it needs change.

Manly won't back Seibold like Dogs backed Ciraldo at this same point. Club is too emotionally inclined to Sackings. But in any event Manly $$$$ just won't get recent premiership winning rep players like Button, Crichton, Kikau and Tuipinoua in during a re-build. Won't have the $$$$$ buying plenty of outstanding juniors to grow into the team.

No point us arguing over if Seibold is the right coach or a smart coach at the moment......

We need Manly successful, and moving forward, be that with or with Seibs as the Coach, it will need $$$$$ invested to get this club back being a premiership power house.

And who ever the coach, will need a club willing to give him time, let him piss of players who don't buy into his culture changing ways.

Just may be the problem at Manly is Manly. If $$$$ and time is what any smart coach needs.

Agree, we are no longer a rich club, and that is unlikely to change in the foreseeable future. It follows that for us to be successful, we need to focus on junior development, pathways and Manly DNA. If we can’t attract talent, we need to develop our own and try to motivate them to stay based on club culture. Otherwise, it’s just death by a thousand cuts. We need to abandon the “premiership window” nonsense and get behind a coach with a development mindset and approach, preferably with a Manly background.