Jamal Fogarty

[LeonardCohen]

Some people here seem a bit disappointed to realise Fogarty may not be the next Immortal or even next Test halfback.
That aside, Manly has done very well to recruit him and I'll think he'll be very good for us. Obviously he is not DCE, but we had plenty of DCE, so on to a different style for a change.

I don’t think it’s that at all. I think some people are inflating the prowess of the new signing and others are offering a healthy dose of reality. I’m right behind Fog’s signing but I’m confident that I’m seeing the same things the commentators have seen in the last couple of weeks…so there’s not get out of jail free card for Fog in my books. He’s fair game.

 

[Nambawan]

I don’t think it’s that at all. I think some people are inflating the prowess of the new signing and others are offering a healthy dose of reality. I’m right behind Fog’s signing but I’m confident that I’m seeing the same things the commentators have seen in the last couple of weeks…so there’s not get out of jail free card for Fog in my books. He’s fair game.

Fogarty is a good footballer and therefore an appropriate signing for Manly. However, suspect that three years is probably one year too long - and that near the end he will have joined Manly's regular 'Dads Army'.

 

[silvereagle]

Obviously he is not DCE, but we had plenty of DCE, so on to a different style for a change.

Yes totally different style and completely different player to Cherry. Individually I would certainly put Cherry a few notches ahead on the brilliance factor. Team wise and team management wise I am thinking Jamal is ahead. So will be interesting to see how he goes.

Do we have better odds of winning the premiership next year with the change? I am thinking yes purely on the basis that Jamal might (better than Cherry) unlock the potential we have across our very gifted backline. Throw in some younger blood in our forwards and we may actually have a shot next year.

 

[LeonardCohen]

Fogarty is a good footballer and therefore an appropriate signing for Manly. However, suspect that three years is probably one year too long - and that near the end he will have joined Manly's regular 'Dads Army'.

Yeah, I think the three years was necessary to get him over the line. Anything less and he probably stays in Canberra for two years on similar coin.

Personally, I’m not expecting him to come and help us contend for a premiership. I think he showed in the semi finals that he is a rung below the kind of halfback that elevates a team into premiership contention. However, young halves (Large and Walsh) are often talented but caught out in decision making, particularly around 5th tackle options. Neither are ready for that responsibility and for that reason, a solid organising half with a great kicking game is the what’s required until those more talented youngsters are reading to steer the ship.

If Fog gives us two solid years and is sold to the UK or used as depth in the 3rd, is probably better than trying to avoid the spoon next year with a really patchy performance from our younger up and comers. I recall Cleary taking a few years to truly get going (he always had the kicking game though) and Galvin is really struggling. It’s hard for youth in such a pivotal position.

 

[frank stokes]

Yeah, I think the three years was necessary to get him over the line. Anything less and he probably stays in Canberra for two years on similar coin.

Personally, I’m not expecting him to come and help us contend for a premiership. I think he showed in the semi finals that he is a rung below the kind of halfback that elevates a team into premiership contention. However, young halves (Large and Walsh) are often talented but caught out in decision making, particularly around 5th tackle options. Neither are ready for that responsibility and for that reason, a solid organising half with a great kicking game is the what’s required until those more talented youngsters are reading to steer the ship.

If Fog gives us two solid years and is sold to the UK or used as depth in the 3rd, is probably better than trying to avoid the spoon next year with a really patchy performance from our younger up and comers. I recall Cleary taking a few years to truly get going (he always had the kicking game though) and Galvin is really struggling. It’s hard for youth in such a pivotal position.

I think you and I are on the same page… Fogarty is a placeholder that gives us a chance of playing finals during the next season or two until we bring our young halves through… can’t see him elevating our fortunes greatly but not overly disappointed in the signing given our (lack of) options..