Is there a pattern developing here?

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  1. Spartan Eagle

    By:Spartan EagleJun 21, 2019
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    Interesting stats about the drags. I guess they are saints after all...


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    • Class of 96

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      Fair call mate. Could’ve done without the first sentence.
       
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      To keep it simple for the "mere mortals here" Brisbane play like soft co*k*, along with everything else i mentioned (that is not to say what i have stated are the reasons just "my opinion")

      So you honestly think there is this big conspiracy that has every single Ref on board, several higher ups delivering the same message and not a single word of this secret societies agenda against Manly has ever made it to at least one media outlet.

      There are many other reasons/variables not added to my "dribbler" list but i didn't want to distance myself too much from the "mere mortals" to remain "relatable".

      For example---How many coaches in that time frame(Manly had two inexperienced coaches that could lead to ill discipline), player turn over etc etc etc the list can go for ages, you have to filter down the main factors which is the art of analyzing data----making a contributing list is boringly simple work.
       
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      If I were Des I would be requesting the refs boss to send a first grade ref to one of our training sessions each week until we see some improvement. Surely it would put the emphasis back on the refs to some extent if they were to guide us into better behaviour. Coaches are not allowed to criticise the refs but surely they are entitled to some guidance and indicators as to what we are doing so horribly worse than other teams. I don’t actually believe we are worse most of the time, we just seem to be penalised for what other teams get away with
       
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        Well executed efficient clinical attack and a well organized fast line speed aggressive defense offers greater returns than reducing your penalty count by 10-20%.
         
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        All teams get gassed. Where and when penalties ate awarded as to just numbers is another area league fans are highly suss about. I would fathom a brace of believing penalties can give a team an advanrage for up to 10 monutes in a game of 80.

        At times the brocos seem like John Bertrand and the ref boss is a winged keel
         
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        The stats that were poste are indeed extremely basic. Perhaps if we had access and studies done on other variables at play it may shed some more light on the situation.

        But the stats don't lie. We have been consistently one of the most penalised team in the competition over the past 5 years. We have Des now who is no rookie coach and big on discipline. Yet we find ourselves in top 3 for conceding most penalties per game this year?

        It's no conspiracy that we have openly been touted as one of the most hated clubs in the competition by the media. That stigma and bias still lingers on. I'd put more credence on this as an explanation as to why we get beaten more times by the penalty stick than the Broncos who get off lightly simply because they play like soft c.ocks.
         
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          I don’t believe in conspiracy theories, but I do believe in bias. Anyway Spartan summed it up nicely, so I’ll leave it to you to engage the data scientists on the contributing factors and share the insights on why we are so mischievous.
           
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              You can also have a disciplined approach to training, be a disciplinarian a control freak etc etc but also push the boundaries of the rules---Manly have always pushed the boundaries, nearly always play in a more physical way relative to other clubs over the years.

              All i am saying is you can read anything into stats if you have a bias.

              The soft co*ks comment was to appease the mere mortal simpletons who appreciate a less detailed explanation going off the post i replied to.
               
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              That grub was at it again last night..just can't help himself the dirty prick.
              https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/06/23/rep-round-charges-lino-in-strife-over-dangerous-contact/
               
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              8-2 penalty count. Late hits on DCE and Cust go unpunished after NRL calls to protect playmakers..WTF?? We consistently get mowed down by these clowns with the whistle.
               
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              • HappilyManly

                By:HappilyManlyJul 14, 2019
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                How is the season ranked ?

                Manly 2nd with 7.2
                But
                Tigers 3rd with 7.5
                And
                Eels 4th with 7.3

                Manly should be 4th in 2013 :wait:

                https://www.nrl.com/stats/teams/?competition=111&season=2013&stat=1000026

                This is telling, Rorters played 27 games but Manly 28 games ergo Manly was only up against the Referees in the GF :rofl:
                 
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                By:mickqldJul 14, 2019
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                Just look at the game yesterday. See where and what for were the penalties against us. Then watch Souffs doing the same things and not getting penalised. It's biased bulksht refereeing simple as that otherwise why is there such a difference ?? Then the 2nd half. 3 penalties and we were all over them. The game was lost in 1st half due to one sided refereeing.
                 
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                  By:Jerry1Jul 14, 2019
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                  It’s penalty free Friday.....
                   
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