I love ya Des, but!

[Cliffymagic]

Garrick needs to go.
Harper needs to play fullback.
Dylan is a centre.
Parker is third choice back up.
Schuster needs to come onto the bench.

Wish that line up started today. Fmd Hasler. I'm a massive fan but I'm tiring.

 

[pjayz]

Hasler didn’t miss the tackles

Tell me you jest

 

[EOL now nesting on the GC]

Garrick needs to go.
Harper needs to play fullback.
Dylan is a centre.
Parker is third choice back up.
Schuster needs to come onto the bench.

I agree with that but would add.

Sirro has to go. Suli and sabb didn't see any normal play ball tonight. The guy just won't pass.

Croker just isn't up to hoover. No zip no runs no nothing.

 

[Ryan]

10 losses, in our last 11 games. Here is how may points have been scored against us in that time:

11. 46 - 4 (loss) - Roosters
10. 52 - 18 (loss) - Tigers
9. 40 - 28 (loss) - Warriors
8. 42 - 24 (loss) - Titans
7. 30 - 22 (win) - Bulldogs
6. 34 - 32 (loss) - Tigers
5. 30 - 6 (loss) - Storm
4. 56 - 16 (loss) - Rabbits
3. 26 - 24 (loss) - Knights
2. 26 - 22 (loss) - Warriors
1. 42 - 12 (loss) - Panthers

That's an average of 38.54 points against per game in that span. I got it wrong guys. Here are the stats, and this is quoted:

"In the black and whites last season as a stand-alone club, they leaked an incredible 944 points in 24 matches at an average of 39.33 per game, the most in league history.

For context, the second worst defensive team of all time were the 1982 Raiders, who conceded 862 points, being an average of 35.91 per game"

Therefore, thankfully, we are the second worst defensive team in the history of the game by 0.79 points per game. Sorry guys, I got the numbers wrong.

 

[Kez]

Yeh nah. Not everyone posting here agrees that sacking the coach this early in the season, will result in anything different to what we are seeing now. We have massive problems, but sacking Des isn't going to magically solve them.

Its a start

 

[hozza]

I wouldn’t go that far Frankie boy. At least not yet. BUT

Come on @Kevinward777 , mate I was with you last year in defence of Des. But he has clearly lost it. Does that mean that he’s as sh!t as Barrett? God no. Des has bleed for the club. Won premierships as player and coach. And demands respect, but that doesn’t protect him from criticism when we play this bad.

no player, no coach is bigger than the club. It’s our 75th year we simply cannot get the spoon this year, and thats where we are headed..

 

[Spartan Eagle]

Bring back Barrett.
#BBB

 

[Ron E. Gibbs]

Thankfully, we are the second worst defensive team in the history of the game by 0.79 points per game. Sorry guys, I got the numbers wrong.

How dare you, Ryan! I wanted us to be the best at something.

 

[pjayz]

Our recruits all performed well, Foran, Saab and Davey I am all very proud of and impressed.

Croker wasn’t too bad, but we’ll still have to hope Fainu is released mid way through the season because depth is limited and we need spark.

But Des is way too stubborn/conservative with that left edge, Jake and Siro

The following players are stale: Jake, Sironen, Parker, Garrick and after tonight you could argue dce who seems to get worse year after year

Today was terrible, but we were good for about 25 minutes of it, and that, if we combine it with a lot ot key team changes (especially regarding that left edge which conceded a stupid amount of points) could see us improve week upon week. Won’t get easier next week and there needs to be some dropped and Schuster selected as Funa wasn’t used really today.

Our response to today’s performance will either make or break our season

Mate it isn’t the recruits we got - they are fine. But there are two positions we needed to recruit for: hooker and fullback (depth). Des did nothing here - that is the issue with recruiting. They should have been priorities. Tom’s injury issues and our record without him is known by everyone but Des it seems. We also knew Fainu won’t play most (or any) of this year. His solution is to play a reserve grade half back.

 

[Ryan]

How dare you, Ryan! I wanted us to be the best at something.

Well, if it makes you feel better:

1. That was Manly's worst ever 1st round loss in 75 years
2. That is Roosters best ever victory over us
3. In that losing run, The Rabbits broke their record over us as well (don't quote me)

So we are breaking records, and winning somewhere.

 

[joeboy]

Garrick needs to go.
Harper needs to play fullback.
Dylan is a centre.
Parker is third choice back up.
Schuster needs to come onto the bench.

I guess I agreed with this when I was saying it early last year only to be lambasted by you and others for being to negative.

And again as I was saying last season, there is serious issues with our coaching/structure/fitness and we look like strangers playing together for the 1st time. That is all on the coach, Who seems to have completely lost it, is devoid of ideas and too stubborn to change something so obviously broken

 

[Bring back the.... Biff?]

I'll give Des until round 8 when turbo has been back awhile. Not his fault turbo and fainu are out. We played one of the best sides in the comp with lots of new faces and combinations. It does unfortunately seem that des has no clue as we just look the same as last year. Jake needs to goto prop he just has to he offers nothing in the 13. Too slow and the new rules have made him useless imho. Siro needs to go and Davey needs to start, he is a good player. This is what id do...

8. Jake
10. Marty
11. Olakau'atu
12. Davey
13. Aloiai

14. Schuster
15. Paseka
16. Keppie
17. Jetski or Sir Loin

 

[Kevinward777]

Was just geeing u up KW...

Haha, no gee up required brother. I’ve smelt cats piss that is more inviting than what I watched this afternoon. Absolutely abysmal. Down by ten on halfway and DCE kicks the ball dead. I knew we were gone from that point.

 

[Ron E. Gibbs]

Our response to today’s performance will either make or break our season

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess break.

Yes, a number of the players don't deserve to play again. But apart from Des being extraordinarily stubborn and conservative when it comes to his selections, we don't exactly have a galaxy of stars to replace them with. My guess is Garrick will be the scapegoat. A number of players could take his spot. Outside of that, it'll largely be the same unmotivated, unfit, untalented, directionless rabble who ran out this week.

We are so far behind other teams now it's not funny.

 

[kurrieagle]

Hasler didn’t miss the tackles

I agree but he keeps picking the same Gumby team every week

 

[Ryan]

I'll give Des until round 8 when turbo has been back awhile. Not his fault turbo and fainu are out. We played one of the best sides in the comp with lots of new faces and combinations. It does unfortunately seem that des has no clue as we just look the same as last year. Jake needs to goto prop he just has to he offers nothing in the 13. Too slow and the new rules have made him useless imho. Siro needs to go and Davey needs to start, he is a good player. This is what id do...

8. Jake
10. Marty
11. Olakau'atu
12. Davey
13. Aloiai

14. Schuster
15. Paseka
16. Keppie
17. Jetski or Sir Loin

They had Cordner (captain), Radley, Verrills all out, plus Friend went down mid game.

 

[Kevinward777]

Our recruits all performed well, Foran, Saab and Davey I am all very proud of and impressed.

Croker wasn’t too bad, but we’ll still have to hope Fainu is released mid way through the season because depth is limited and we need spark.

But Des is way too stubborn/conservative with that left edge, Jake and Siro

The following players are stale: Jake, Sironen, Parker, Garrick and after tonight you could argue dce who seems to get worse year after year

Today was terrible, but we were good for about 25 minutes of it, and that, if we combine it with a lot ot key team changes (especially regarding that left edge which conceded a stupid amount of points) could see us improve week upon week. Won’t get easier next week and there needs to be some dropped and Schuster selected as Funa wasn’t used really today.

Our response to today’s performance will either make or break our season

Nice balanced post Harry. A twenty year old with some football nous.

 

[Kevinward777]

They had Cordner (captain), Radley, Verrills all out, plus Friend went down mid game.

They are stacked Ryan.

 

[frank stokes]

Bring back Barrett.
#BBB

You like to dodge stones lol

 

[swoop]

Every year I hear how we're training the house down and we're fitter than ever, but compared to other teams we look pedestrian.