Pretty much, yes! Of course fans will always be aggrieved about dud calls, but what can you do?
I know some opposition fans who still refer to calls they think went Manly's way 40 years ago. Sad
I have never seen a more corrupt game of football in my entire life
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I know some opposition fans who still refer to calls they think went Manly's way 40 years ago. Sad
Refs "manage" games, not referee what they see each play of the ball.
It is blantantly obvious to anyone with half a brain that refs ( sub consciously or orherwise) try to "manage" a result by obvious square up penalties, giving the team who is 20 points down a run of penalties, etc, etc.
This is all in aid of producing the closest possible end results in each game imo.
In some cases, good ol' fashioned bias comes into play, I'm sure.
It is blantantly obvious to anyone with half a brain that refs ( sub consciously or orherwise) try to "manage" a result by obvious square up penalties, giving the team who is 20 points down a run of penalties, etc, etc.
This is all in aid of producing the closest possible end results in each game imo.
In some cases, good ol' fashioned bias comes into play, I'm sure.
Can't give a definitive answer to your question but square ups seem to have increased since the commission came to be.
Probably the same as Wednesday night.
Av8r
Reserve Grader
You obviously didn't see Wade Graham's coat hanger on Slater.
Lord Eagleton
Bencher
You're right, i didnt. But i applaud him
I don't think the refs are biased to one side , be it the one playing against us or one of the state sides BUT there's no doubt in my mind ( sorry @SeaEagleRock8 ) they are " scripting" games to see closer results.
My thoughts are that both Chan 9 and Foxtel just love close games and hate blow outs, the ultimate aim is GP.
Yesterday's game was just another in many many I've seen where the side leading at half time is given a penalty bath in the second half.
SOO 2 a perfect example , NSW zero QLD 6, it's not rocket science to know that six penalties to zero is going to have a profound effect on the game.
As to an investigation , well I thought the SMH journo did that really well!!
Will it change, doubtful, will I keep banging on about it, sadly yes.
My thoughts are that both Chan 9 and Foxtel just love close games and hate blow outs, the ultimate aim is GP.
Yesterday's game was just another in many many I've seen where the side leading at half time is given a penalty bath in the second half.
SOO 2 a perfect example , NSW zero QLD 6, it's not rocket science to know that six penalties to zero is going to have a profound effect on the game.
As to an investigation , well I thought the SMH journo did that really well!!
Will it change, doubtful, will I keep banging on about it, sadly yes.
I rarely watch 9 but as manly had a tv game yesrerday i watched. Apart from manly tearing the sharks a new one, it was like a demtel commercial. I honestly felt like i was watching a sales team rather than a commentry team as they relentlessly plugged the greatest game of origin ever..........the decider. Like its never happened.
You can see how 9 are hurting for paying a fair price for the game and and looking to make a buck. Now thats cool, its business but what strikes me is how they havnt been like this ever before. Primarily because they got the game for peanuts. Now they have peanuts trying to sell the greatest show on earth at a time when many consumers are sick of the manipulation of results in order to appease the money men.
I wasnt excited , it was nauseating as we all know the winner will be the team that will generate the best story as a sales event for next year.
The remember last year story. a few geese are killing the goose
You can see how 9 are hurting for paying a fair price for the game and and looking to make a buck. Now thats cool, its business but what strikes me is how they havnt been like this ever before. Primarily because they got the game for peanuts. Now they have peanuts trying to sell the greatest show on earth at a time when many consumers are sick of the manipulation of results in order to appease the money men.
I wasnt excited , it was nauseating as we all know the winner will be the team that will generate the best story as a sales event for next year.
The remember last year story. a few geese are killing the goose
Lord Eagleton
Bencher
Did you guys see this in Fairfax? Steve Mascord. He's always been an ok journo to read. But he's writing all the wrong things here. Its not as simple as just switching off a game you have watched all your life, Steve...
JT shot JFK
It's official: Origin is now so good that thousands of conspiracy theorists refuse to believe it's not scripted. That's right, the mob that reckons chemtrails are poisoning angels and Harold Holt runs a thriving Guangzhou lamington shop also refuse to believe random events in a game could create as much pathos, drama and spectacle as we saw last Wednesday night.
So they're flooding social media with zany theories about head office ordering a Queensland victory. Presumably they also ordered Johnathan Thurston's shoulder injury so he could kick his sideline conversion and Jarryd Hayne not to pass to Brett Morris. Everyone's in on it!
As Set of Six said elsewhere last week, why would you continue to watch a sport you believe is fixed? If you're calling out people over their integrity, have some yourself and don't support an industry you believe to be deceitful and corrupt.
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/rug...dney-we-need-fewer-games-20170624-gwxz0h.html
JT shot JFK
It's official: Origin is now so good that thousands of conspiracy theorists refuse to believe it's not scripted. That's right, the mob that reckons chemtrails are poisoning angels and Harold Holt runs a thriving Guangzhou lamington shop also refuse to believe random events in a game could create as much pathos, drama and spectacle as we saw last Wednesday night.
So they're flooding social media with zany theories about head office ordering a Queensland victory. Presumably they also ordered Johnathan Thurston's shoulder injury so he could kick his sideline conversion and Jarryd Hayne not to pass to Brett Morris. Everyone's in on it!
As Set of Six said elsewhere last week, why would you continue to watch a sport you believe is fixed? If you're calling out people over their integrity, have some yourself and don't support an industry you believe to be deceitful and corrupt.
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/rug...dney-we-need-fewer-games-20170624-gwxz0h.html
Take the blinkers off Mascord. Blind Freddy can see the rort.
Crowds and viewers are in decline. Seems a dumb thing to say considering the data
Origin attracts millions who never watch another game of footy and care not for anything but to feel superior for a week due to someone else playing footy.
I find ir strange how deathly quiet all the ch 9 footy experts are about the situation. In my opinion the quieter they are the more likely the networks have a vested interest in the confusion
Little Grubber Kick
Bencher
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!"
- Upton Sinclair 1929
The article is just a form letter, they are not even original with their journalistic propaganda. Guess it means they are determined to continue with it.
Isn't it funny that when, because of your standpoint, you are in a minority everyone else is part of a mob, herd or populist.
Childish.
Corruption is a very strong word.
It's not corrupt to stage manage an event of theatre but when people are sold an even contest, naive as they may be if you've watched origin long enough, maybe his description of what he thinks 'the mob' believes is right.
ODI cricket has stage managed as well.
Some very ordinary Australian teams got into the finals back in the 80s.
Journos who have as much or less knowledge of the game as everyone else, who can't see it or are too gutless to report it, need to get another job.
Childish.
Corruption is a very strong word.
It's not corrupt to stage manage an event of theatre but when people are sold an even contest, naive as they may be if you've watched origin long enough, maybe his description of what he thinks 'the mob' believes is right.
ODI cricket has stage managed as well.
Some very ordinary Australian teams got into the finals back in the 80s.
Journos who have as much or less knowledge of the game as everyone else, who can't see it or are too gutless to report it, need to get another job.
Shoe1
Journey Man
Mascord errs by including the hayne non-pass in his argument. That wasn't corrupt, rather it was a selfish act of a selfish show pony.
The flow of penalties, and iffy adjudication on strips, knock-ons, holding in tackles and forward passes is where refs clearly manage games to help one side.
Yesterday the sharks got a penalty (against Afb?) when the tackler was already at marker. Why was it given seconds after the tackle?
The flow of penalties, and iffy adjudication on strips, knock-ons, holding in tackles and forward passes is where refs clearly manage games to help one side.
Yesterday the sharks got a penalty (against Afb?) when the tackler was already at marker. Why was it given seconds after the tackle?
wedgetail eagle
Bencher
Evidence mounts,
Russians meddled in 2nd State of Origin.
Russians meddled in 2nd State of Origin.
*bump*
I just worked it out....
NSW need to change sponsors from VB to anything that is not a big green blob!
We didn't do so well with 'the blob' either!
Problem solved *mic drop*
I just worked it out....
NSW need to change sponsors from VB to anything that is not a big green blob!
We didn't do so well with 'the blob' either!
Problem solved *mic drop*
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6 | 5 | 1 | 59 | 12 |
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6 | 5 | 1 | 20 | 12 |
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6 | 4 | 2 | 53 | 10 |
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6 | 4 | 2 | 30 | 10 |
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7 | 4 | 2 | 25 | 9 |
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7 | 4 | 3 | 40 | 8 |
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7 | 4 | 3 | 24 | 8 |
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7 | 4 | 3 | -8 | 8 |
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7 | 4 | 3 | -18 | 8 |
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7 | 3 | 3 | 20 | 7 |
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7 | 3 | 4 | 31 | 6 |
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7 | 3 | 4 | 17 | 6 |
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6 | 2 | 4 | -31 | 6 |
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7 | 3 | 4 | -41 | 6 |
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7 | 2 | 5 | -29 | 4 |
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6 | 1 | 5 | -102 | 4 |
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6 | 0 | 6 | -90 | 2 |
