How the Rorters always get their man.

[pt73]

Zero surprises here , but interesting to read one of Cronk’s carrots was a guaranteed entry to Harvard and the cost to cover the fee’s.

https://www.facebook.com/121538134524668/posts/5021620057849760

Guaranteed entry to Harvard ?

To do what, he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Guaranteed entry to Harvard ?

To do what, he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Yes well I did wonder !!

 

[BOZO]

Guaranteed entry to Harvard ?

To do what, he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

In the same drawer you will find the Broncos hierarchy who had the one town team , all the money TPA's and resources and ended up with a wooden spoon as well as a team that can not make the top 8

Talk about Disgraceful Gross Miss management

The greatest asset of any organization is the smart people it invests in Indeed

The moral of the story
Invest in fools and your fcked

 

[manly al]

Points system would have some merit but then there is the problematic T P A issue . Think that there is still no general restriction on these additional arrangements . Still need the cap as a base requirement , guess that after that any worthwhile and fairer measure is worth considering . Manly 's general cap arrangements and player values seem pretty much in line and i am sure most other clubs for whatever reason .Just continues to revolve around the Roosters , Storm , possibly still the Broncs and previously the Eels and more recently maybe the Dogs for any noted discrepancies

 

[pt73]

Points system would have some merit but then there is the problematic T P A issue . Think that there is still no general restriction on these additional arrangements . Still need the cap as a base requirement , guess that after that any worthwhile and fairer measure is worth considering . Manly 's general cap arrangements and player values seem pretty much in line and i am sure most other clubs for whatever reason .Just continues to revolve around the Roosters , Storm , possibly still the Broncs and previously the Eels and more recently maybe the Dogs for any noted discrepancies

The Bronc are a great example.

The NRL went after them in 2014 over 500K of guaranteed TPAs so the football ops general manager quit immediately and refused to be interviewed.

Case closed.

 

[manly al]

Yeah Andrew Gee , would have thought that the then N R L admin would have had the capacity and means to delve further and pursue the matter but case closed apparently . In contrast to the very costly and really petty and prolonged Manly witch hunt a few seasons later

 

[Shoe1]

Guaranteed entry to Harvard ?

To do what, he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Look, if it was a $30k course then it wasn’t a real Harvard degree. Possibly one of their one semester diplomas. They offer a bunch of these courses, enabling people to get a lite course in one or two subjects, but it is basically buying a “Harvard” certificate. It is not to be confused with actually going to Harvard.

Also surely this would need to be counted under the cap?

 

[mosto]

as ive said before the cap needs to be replaced with a points-based system. keep a monetary value on total cap sure but have a points-based ledger that only allows for so many points on players as a club.

Better players obviously have much higher points value BUT if that said player was a 'real' jnr from the club they would get deductions against their overall value. if the said player was a 1 club player then again deductions. If the player made his NRL debut with the club more deductions.

If you are a rep player that adds points. if you represent your country that adds points. etc etc.

The points would be a fixed amount for each category so as soon as said player represents then its added from the next seasons points cap. the clubs would have time to work out the following years points and some sort of trade window should be implemented so clubes can if needed swap out or move on players that soak up too many points.

would make it more difficult for clubs like rooters that don't develop their own buying say a teddy who when at the top of his game was the best player in the comp. sure you could have him but it would take a large chunk of points.



its just a fairer version of the money cap that couldn't be rorted.

The NSWRL will implement a Player Points Index System in metropolitan and regional competitions next year. Will be interesting to see how it goes, particularly here in Central West NSW with Group 10 and Group 11 merging into a Western Super League of sorts. With the Dubbo and Orange teams having significantly more resources than the likes of say Cowra and Nyngan, it will be interesting to see if it evens the playing field a bit.

NSWRL to roll out Player Points Index System statewide in 2022 - Asia Pacific Rugby League

The NSWRL will next season introduce a state-wide Player Points Index System (PPIS) for the first time across Regional and Metropolitan Open Age competitions which will encourage former NRL stars...

asiapacificrl.com

 

[Tragic Eagle]

I hope the NRL follow this closely. Who knows maybe they are behind this implementation at state level to see how it rolls. It has been suggested previously but other posters on here and I think its a great idea provided it is administered properly and consistently.

 

[Damien2812]

These after footy incentives need to looked at since this obliviously favours the clubs who have the money and contacts.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

These after footy incentives need to looked at since this obliviously favours the clubs who have the money and contacts.

Agree , with the who’s who of Australian business on the Rorters board they can facilitate almost anything and it’s a really really BIG factor.

I’d say the Cheese was offered a lot more money by the Dolphins but you can see what the pull is for life post footy.

 

[AlxFromNthNarra]

Guys like Politis treat the NRL as a business, and are far better at business than the NRL administration. He brings in likeminded, business-savvy stakeholders who in turn bring new ideas to the table at a club-level that the NRL administration can re-appropriate league-wide. He knows how to attract and retain talent as any good employer does - other clubs frankly need to just do better.

Also, guys like Russell Crowe open the NRL up to audiences they are incapable of reaching themselves.

These guys are assets to the NRL Admin. As a result they will never crack down on this type of thing.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Guys like Politis treat the NRL as a business, and are far better at business than the NRL administration. He brings in likeminded, business-savvy stakeholders who in turn bring new ideas to the table at a club-level that the NRL administration can re-appropriate league-wide. He knows how to attract and retain talent as any good employer does - other clubs frankly need to just do better.

Also, guys like Russell Crowe open the NRL up to audiences they are incapable of reaching themselves.

These guys are assets to the NRL Admin. As a result they will never crack down on this type of thing.

Yep you are on the money there

 

[BOZO]

Guys like Politis treat the NRL as a business, and are far better at business than the NRL administration. He brings in likeminded, business-savvy stakeholders who in turn bring new ideas to the table at a club-level that the NRL administration can re-appropriate league-wide. He knows how to attract and retain talent as any good employer does - other clubs frankly need to just do better.

Also, guys like Russell Crowe open the NRL up to audiences they are incapable of reaching themselves.

These guys are assets to the NRL Admin. As a result they will never crack down on this type of thing.

Guys Like Manly Guru Ken Arthurson in the 70s were ahead of their time

Very astute great innovator , great communicator great manager ,great negotiator and made the most of our clubs resources

Everything that Ken touched turned to Gold and Manly won many Gold medals with him

Being a Manly supporter I was sick of the whinging that Arko paid the refs and favoured Manly when he was in charge of the ARL

One thing that never changes in sport

There will always be Winners

and there will always be tall poppy Whingers

 

[pt73]

Yeah Andrew Gee , would have thought that the then N R L admin would have had the capacity and means to delve further and pursue the matter but case closed apparently . In contrast to the very costly and really petty and prolonged Manly witch hunt a few seasons later

That was the issue they had no power to force him to be interviewed so it was case closed and the Donkeys dodged a bullet.

 

[madmax]

Guaranteed entry to Harvard ?

To do what, he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Cronk would struggle to spell Harvard lololol

 

[madmax]

Agree , with the who’s who of Australian business on the Rorters board they can facilitate almost anything and it’s a really really BIG factor.

I’d say the Cheese was offered a lot more money by the Dolphins but you can see what the pull is for life post footy.

Yeah a brown paper bag pension!

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Yeah a brown paper bag pension!

Quite possibly

 

[pt73]

Cronk would struggle to spell Harvard lololol

Harvid

 

[Fibro Eagle]

It’s the ole , It’s not what you know it’s who you know
Politis knows a lot of rich people with connections and can lead players to those people to set themselves up , Taking unders to go the club but capitalising on the benefits after
Some clubs can do it some can’t , And the NRL can’t do anything about it ,
Let’s face it the NRL only find out about dodgy deals is when there is a whistle blower in the ranks