Garrick - 2yr deal

[Paw93]

it was great but he shouldn't have had to make it...Dufty grounded that ball in the in-goal.

They changed the rule to include intent in grounding the ball. Had we scored off that same play it would be a try but like all grey areas, it'd be up to the ref to decide.

 

[Freagle]

Woodsie I reckon he will fill out he is only young. He could easily put on 10kgs and not lose any speed.

Have to say...he was standing right in front of the Hill yesterday waiting for the kickoff after his try, and he is a pretty big dude. Very athletic-looking. I don't think you'd want him a whole lot bigger! Maybe a few kgs, but he certainly has the build for NRL.

 

[Sheikheagle]

Have to say...he was standing right in front of the Hill yesterday waiting for the kickoff after his try, and he is a pretty big dude. Very athletic-looking. I don't think you'd want him a whole lot bigger! Maybe a few kgs, but he certainly has the build for NRL.

Yep definitely has the right frame but needs some bulk for kick returns.

 

[The Who]

They changed the rule to include intent in grounding the ball. Had we scored off that same play it would be a try but like all grey areas, it'd be up to the ref to decide.

If they changed the rule then very few of us received the memo.
When was it changed, and how much publicity did it receive?
If true, then we now have a rule adjudged by the word 'intent'. Mindreaders need only apply!

 

[Chip and Chase]

Yep definitely has the right frame but needs some bulk for kick returns.

Needs to hit the squats and get some leg drive going. Hits the line with intent but then gets held up and driven back 9 times out of 10. He either has to learn a little step at the line to get between defenders or get those chicken legs pumping ala Horhay.

 

[Chip and Chase]

If they changed the rule then very few of us received the memo.
When was it changed, and how much publicity did it receive?
If true, then we now have a rule adjudged by the word 'intent'. Mindreaders need only apply!

From the NRL rules

Grounding the Ball in own In Goal - For the ball to be deemed dead the player in possession must intentionally ground the ball in his own in-goal.

link here https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/operations/documentation/nrl-laws-and-interpretations-2019-final.pdf

Refer page 16

 

[globaleagle]

If they changed the rule then very few of us received the memo.
When was it changed, and how much publicity did it receive?
If true, then we now have a rule adjudged by the word 'intent'. Mindreaders need only apply!

Found this in the 2019 rules book. It was the same in the previous year. Someone else can go further back if they want. Not saying I don't feel the angst, just laying some facts out there. 🙂

Grounding the Ball in own In Goal For the ball to be deemed dead the player in possession must intentionally ground the ball in his own in-goal.

https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/operations/documentation/nrl-laws-and-interpretations-2019-final.pdf

Page 16


AHHHHH DAMN YOU @Chip and Chase lol. I'm not deleting my post 😛 I copied and pasted the 2018 rule book first which caused me a time delay. Video ref please...sigh

 

[Woodsie]

Found this in the 2019 rules book. It was the same in the previous year. Someone else can go further back if they want. Not saying I don't feel the angst, just laying some facts out there. 🙂

Grounding the Ball in own In Goal For the ball to be deemed dead the player in possession must intentionally ground the ball in his own in-goal.

https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/operations/documentation/nrl-laws-and-interpretations-2019-final.pdf

Page 16


AHHHHH DAMN YOU @Chip and Chase lol. I'm not deleting my post 😛 I copied and pasted the 2018 rule book first which caused me a time delay. Video ref please...sigh

Mate ... coming second isn't that bad ...

wait ... where did you come? ..

edit ... I bet had he fumbled the ball getting up and we had pounced on it for a try .. they would have quickly deemed it grounded ...

 

[Paw93]

Found this in the 2019 rules book. It was the same in the previous year. Someone else can go further back if they want. Not saying I don't feel the angst, just laying some facts out there. 🙂

Grounding the Ball in own In Goal For the ball to be deemed dead the player in possession must intentionally ground the ball in his own in-goal.

https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/operations/documentation/nrl-laws-and-interpretations-2019-final.pdf

Page 16


AHHHHH DAMN YOU @Chip and Chase lol. I'm not deleting my post 😛 I copied and pasted the 2018 rule book first which caused me a time delay. Video ref please...sigh

Was bothered enough to go back (finding the 2016 rules were a pain) and found the first rule book with mention of intentional grounding was 2017. 2016 still had the words "a defending player touches down in the in-goal area".

 

[XV-1]

Still can’t decide if it was a great kick from DCE perfectly timed to bounce into his arms or a poor kick from DCE that was certain to go dead except for Garrick’s extraordinary athleticism. In the end, of course, it was great to watch and points on the board and I wouldn’t mind if they scored a hundred more like it.

Perhaps the question that may help. Would have Taufua caught that kick of DCE's? I think not, so more Garrick's great play and hands than a great kick IMO.

 

[The Who]

From the NRL rules

Grounding the Ball in own In Goal - For the ball to be deemed dead the player in possession must intentionally ground the ball in his own in-goal.

link here https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/operations/documentation/nrl-laws-and-interpretations-2019-final.pdf

Refer page 16

At the risk of appearing pedantic....
to what other rules has the word 'intentionally' been added?
ie: a try is only awarded if the player intentionally meant to score it?
A ball is not deemed to have been knocked on unless a player had intentionally meant it?
A tackle is not acknowledged unless the defender has intentionally meant to bring down his opponent?
A ball is not deemed to have crossed the sideline unless a player has intentionally kicked it there?
My point being, the word 'intentionally' is not needed in the vast majority of rules.
This new grounding rule should read: "a ball is deemed to be grounded in the in-goal if it disadvantages Manly and/or favours our pet teams".

 

[Paw93]

At the risk of appearing pedantic....
to what other rules has the word 'intentionally' been added?
ie: a try is only awarded if the player intentionally meant to score it?
A ball is not deemed to have been knocked on unless a player had intentionally meant it?
A tackle is not acknowledged unless the defender has intentionally meant to bring down his opponent?
A ball is not deemed to have crossed the sideline unless a player has intentionally kicked it there?
My point being, the word 'intentionally' is not needed in the vast majority of rules.
This new grounding rule should read: "a ball is deemed to be grounded in the in-goal if it disadvantages Manly and/or favours our pet teams".

It makes sense to include the word "intentionally" for touch in goal IMO. There'd be too many cases where a team would field a kick from the in goal area and ground the ball accidentally. Similar issue happened when RTS fielded a kick for the Roosters and when the length of the field to score a try after "grounding" the ball while picking it up. Yes it adds a grey area when assessing whether it was intentional or not but it'd be common sense in most cases.

 

[Go manly]

Found this in the 2019 rules book. It was the same in the previous year. Someone else can go further back if they want. Not saying I don't feel the angst, just laying some facts out there. 🙂

Grounding the Ball in own In Goal For the ball to be deemed dead the player in possession must intentionally ground the ball in his own in-goal.

https://www.nrl.com/siteassets/operations/documentation/nrl-laws-and-interpretations-2019-final.pdf

Page 16


AHHHHH DAMN YOU @Chip and Chase lol. I'm not deleting my post 😛 I copied and pasted the 2018 rule book first which caused me a time delay. Video ref please...sigh

A sneaky chip and chase got you on the back foot and just couldn’t r turn quick enough Global

 

[Shoe1]

Have to say...he was standing right in front of the Hill yesterday waiting for the kickoff after his try, and he is a pretty big dude. Very athletic-looking. I don't think you'd want him a whole lot bigger! Maybe a few kgs, but he certainly has the build for NRL.

Yep he is big

 

[Shoe1]

It makes sense to include the word "intentionally" for touch in goal IMO. There'd be too many cases where a team would field a kick from the in goal area and ground the ball accidentally. Similar issue happened when RTS fielded a kick for the Roosters and when the length of the field to score a try after "grounding" the ball while picking it up. Yes it adds a grey area when assessing whether it was intentional or not but it'd be common sense in most cases.

I think it should be same as a try. If Dufty did the same thing at the other end it would have been a try.

What next? Grounding the ball unintentionally over the sideline isn’t out?

 

[Mitch]

Brilliant article by Reuben, showing just how grateful he is for the opportunity he’s been shown at Manly compared to his time at the Dragons.

https://www.exclusiveinsight.com/its-great-to-belong-reuben-garrick/

 

[Chip and Chase]

News story on the tragic accident involving his cousin.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...sin-s-quad-bike-accident-20190618-p51ywf.html

I'm hoping that the picture in the previous story isn't the same cousin - that'd be too sad to contemplate.

 

[40 years an eagle]

Brilliant article by Reuben, showing just how grateful he is for the opportunity he’s been shown at Manly compared to his time at the Dragons.

https://www.exclusiveinsight.com/its-great-to-belong-reuben-garrick/

A great read, and what a great kid. Thanks.

He is feeling like Manly and Des is doing that to them right across the park with his coaching skills.

 

[BH72]

oh man, that is bloody awful news about his young cousin. He will need alot of support in the next few months.

 

[madmax]

I’ve read both articles........when he signed with club there was something about him
that seemed special. A no name who was given an opportunity to join Manly to show what he had to offer. The other players all had such high opinions of him & his attitude to training & the type of person he is! My gut feeling about this kid seems right & I can see him becoming a fan favourite & most importantly one of our best!!! Wish him a long future with this great club!