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Forward Physics

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Alan, Apr 30, 2014.

  1. Alan

    Alan Well-Known Member

    I confess that before each game this year I have been uneasy and nervous regarding our no-name, no-impact forward pack.

    Each team, such as Souff's, Rorters, Cowgirls and Scum have boasted Big, powerful star laden packs that threaten to smash us into submission.

    Again before the Canberra game the talking heads were predicting that the Giant pack and bench of the Raiders would get on top in the wet conditions.

    Again they didn't. Why is it so?

    Our pack doesn't seem to perform any "Big Hits" or defence shattering hit-ups, they just seem to go about their business.

    It is as though rather than meeting these powerful foes with an equal an opposite force....we simply seem to .. absorb them. Neutralise them. Negate them.

    And it doesn't seem to make a difference who we use, Lui, Hassan, JSL, Starling et al.

  2. SeaEagleRock8

    SeaEagleRock8 Sea Eagle Lach Staff Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

    +6,913 /125

    E = mc2

    d = (0 m/s)*(4.1 s) + 0.5*(6.00 m/s2)*(4.10 s)2

    Factor in the wind resistance, and Bob's your uncle.
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    • mosto

      mosto Well-Known Member Premium Member

      +1,001 /10
      I think we have a very mobile pack which is benefiting from the wrestle crackdown and getting quick play the balls, which sees the bigger packs struggle against us. Choc has long been a master of the quick play the ball, but guys like BJ, JSL and even Lui are pretty agile for their size and are getting to there feet quickly.
    • HappilyManly

      HappilyManly MWTS Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

      +11,495 /254
      Energy = Manly x Speed of Light squared :cool:

      I reckon Lui's tackle on Fensom in the 21st minute was pretty earth shattering :p
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      • SeaEagleRock8

        SeaEagleRock8 Sea Eagle Lach Staff Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

        +6,913 /125
        At some stage Toovey must start to receive some serious credit for his coaching. With all the experience we lost from the forwards this year I feared the worst, but we've had as good a start as any in recent years. And he's had different assistants each year, so Toovey himself must be doing plenty right.
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        • The Who

          The Who Well-Known Member

          Mona Vale
          +4,941 /104
          Matt Ballin has a lot to do with it. He brings done the biggest blokes, and then gets back to do it again and again.
          I was extremely impressed how the forwards easily contained the Canberra pack, which is huge. Another big test will come against the world's biggest mongrels, the Dirty Dogs. I'm sure there hasn't been a larger forward pack in RL history than that mob.
          But as our forwards will show, it's not the size of the Dog in the fight it's the size of the fight in the dog.
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          • manlyfan76

            manlyfan76 Parra Trolls are the best. Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

            Anywhere but Parramatta
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            We tackle well from 1-17. Our halves and three quarters are high quality defenders and would be some of the best defenders on their positions. We also have (when fit) a forward pack who go massive minutes. Gift Choc Balin and Horo can go 80mins when needed allowing the prop rotation to stay fresh. All these factors lead to less mistakes in Defence.
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            • SeaEagleRock8

              SeaEagleRock8 Sea Eagle Lach Staff Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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              Been doing it for years. He might be one of those players that we don't realise just how good he is until he retires.
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              • globaleagle

                globaleagle Où est mon chapeau Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

                +7,906 /58
                d = approx 50.4 metres
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                • SeaEagleRock8

                  SeaEagleRock8 Sea Eagle Lach Staff Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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                  That's correct GE. It's how many metres our forwards average on every completed set.
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                  • mike walker

                    mike walker Well-Known Member

                    +556 /2
                    G'day all,Yes Matt has tackling technique that use to be the norm in the old days when a small bloke could knock over a big bloke around the legs as a matter of course,but you don't get rewarded for that in the modern game unfortunately.Beaver was another great example of classical tackling technique in the tradition of the master Terry Randall.
                    cheers mike
                  • Snake

                    Snake Doing The Eagle Rock!

                    +2,653 /149
                    I also think Ballin has a lot to do with it! He is the most underrated player in the game IMO.
                  • RiverEagle

                    RiverEagle New Member

                    +1,055 /0
                    I think Donny Singe is also a huge and somewhat uncredited factor.

                    Conditioning and attitude are vital components when abilities are more or less equal. And we've been consistently good ever since Donny came on board.

                    The new rule tweaks also often favour more mobile packs over the course of the 80 minutes too.

                    Size isn't always everything, as some of us blokes point out to the missus...
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                    • COMMANDER

                      COMMANDER IF YOU DO NOT TRY YOU CAN NOT FAIL 2016 Tipping Competitor

                      Our pack only has to do the simple things: don't turn the ball over, don't miss tackles and don't take a backward step.

                      The best backline in club history does the rest.
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                      • King

                        King Active Member

                        +56 /3
                        Our forward pack plays as a pack, that was obvious against Souths earlier this year. The worst thing Sam Burgess did in that game was gave Horo a spray for a dropped ball. When King fired up, I think that showed the new fellas like Lui and Starling this is how roll.
                      • bob dylan

                        bob dylan Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

                        +4,442 /130
                        It's not, and never has been,the size of the dog in the fight that matters most.
                      • niccipops

                        niccipops un echidna spillo mia bevanda Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

                        +5,568 /50
                        True bob, it's the size of the maroon and white beating heart that counts.
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                        • Shoe1

                          Shoe1 Well-Known Member

                          +4,821 /76
                          Jokes aside, the point is well made.

                          I too have often watched games where say the souths or Canberra pack is making heaps of metres against other teams and totally dominating. Then against Manly they are not dominant and are contained. This is despite personnel changes in our pack.

                          Is it tackling style or our defensive line tactics? Or maybe it is down to the recruitment. Blokes like starling and lui hardly got a go at their old clubs, but manly really wanted them - blokes who aren't flashy, but are strong and work hard.

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