David Fifita

[Rocky]

Much better option than Fifta and is an upgrade on Burbo.

ok but that didn't answer my question - there is a reason the Eels are trying to dump him elsewhere.

2021 Ryan Matterson maybe - but have you seen him play lately? (spoiler alert he is either unavailable or in NSW cup)

 

[Brookie1973]

Don't forget THEE biggest name of all in recent years, Nick Bradley-Qalilawa!

The Michael Bani of his generation.

 

[Woodsie]

Like all things it gets down to $$$ ... I would take FiFi in a heartbeat at the right price ... but so would 16 other teams.

 

[Eagle 1]

Ryan Matterson is on the market, what ya'll reckon??? $500k

Also, what happened to Bryce Cartwright, he can't make first grade either.

 

[double hoops]

Also, what happened to Bryce Cartwright, he can't make first grade either.

Anyone would think the new coach is making a point, you or the money of Ur contract is not in my plans. FO. Big Joe. Its not just one.

 

[Cochrane]

my point was the KPI s were in place from the outset they were not added at later point in time...

so they made Fifita an offer, and as you say ''with KPI's inserted from the start, to make sure he would backflip and were happy with the result''.

huh?

Wouldnt you just not make an offer to Fifita ?

 

[eggson]

This thread needs a big Willie! I suppose Feleti mateo was a decent-sized name as well.
Only going off name recognition, nothing to do with ability or contributions.

 

[Jay Eagle]

so they made Fifita an offer, and as you say ''with KPI's inserted from the start, to make sure he would backflip and were happy with the result''.

huh?

Wouldnt you just not make Fifita ?

I agree..makes no sense.
Simple fact is Fafita backflipped and Roosters ended up with egg on their face..
Nearly lost Angus Chrighton over this saga as well.. only to have to then throw a bucket load at him to keep him happy..
Roosters are not immune to F@#k ups.. they are just another club.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

This thread needs a big Willie! I suppose Feleti mateo was a decent-sized name as well.
Only going off name recognition, nothing to do with ability or contributions.

Stars in their heyday, but to mind they weren't big name signings when they joined Manly. Just solid experienced players (at best)

 

[Seagles68]

Fifita happily joined the titans who are quite possibly the worst team in the NRL over the last decade lol. Manly aren’t a club that buys big name players

Raymond Tuaimalo Vaega and Gordon Chan Kum Tong are pretty big name players

 

[Jimmie]

so they made Fifita an offer, and as you say ''with KPI's inserted from the start, to make sure he would backflip and were happy with the result''.

huh?

Wouldnt you just not make an offer to Fifita ?

That’s correct …to make sure he ,in this case Fifita , or any other player , would backflip if they have any doubts about meeting KPI s …like any employer better to know from the start if someone does not want to work hard.As a club you want the player to backflip if they have doubts before they get there because it destabilises the whole joint when a new player who joins the club on big bucks and is not putting in That’s why nick pulled the contract the day after Fifita rang him to say he was having doubts.They are happy with result and comfortable they dodged a bullet.

 

[Damien2812]

ok but that didn't answer my question - there is a reason the Eels are trying to dump him elsewhere.

2021 Ryan Matterson maybe - but have you seen him play lately? (spoiler alert he is either unavailable or in NSW cup)

Not sure what's happening with him currently. Maybe he is trying to get released and isn't trying or interested.

 

[Eagles4Life]

That’s correct …to make sure he ,in this case Fifita , or any other player , would backflip if they have any doubts about meeting KPI s …like any employer better to know from the start if someone does not want to work hard.As a club you want the player to backflip if they have doubts before they get there because it destabilises the whole joint when a new player who joins the club on big bucks and is not putting in That’s why nick pulled the contract the day after Fifita rang him to say he was having doubts.They are happy with result and comfortable they dodged a bullet.

 

[Jay Eagle]

That’s correct …to make sure he ,in this case Fifita , or any other player , would backflip if they have any doubts about meeting KPI s …like any employer better to know from the start if someone does not want to work hard.As a club you want the player to backflip if they have doubts before they get there because it destabilises the whole joint when a new player who joins the club on big bucks and is not putting in That’s why nick pulled the contract the day after Fifita rang him to say he was having doubts.They are happy with result and comfortable they dodged a bullet.

This is contrary to everything published or commentated on..
Seriously your in dreamland..

KPIs.. yes.. but these are footballing contracts .. the KPIs are in line with physical requirements the club expects..
Ie.. body fat ratios, training goal performance based, and beep test results, turning up to training and club functions.. all of which are not actually grounds to sack a player but give them warnings.
No player has lost a contract from these KPIs.

other KPIs are bonus payment based like playing origin, playing "x" amount of NRL games etc..again nothing to have a contract cancelled or a player to backflip..

There are certainly no KPIs relating to on field performance.. total BS

The players union would have a "canary" if a club had on field performance as a KPI and further if it meant a players contract could be cancelled and then terminated.

Total BS @Jimmie.. your a Roosters stooge.. or totally biased pro Roosters fan boy.

Please enough with the crap..

Fafita backflipped no Nick Politis KPIs at all.. so you really think people are that stupid..

Why do you think there a players union?.. certainly not to allow clubs to put on field KPIs in a contract that can then trigger termination.

And as I said all the other KPIs are training and official club attendance and they are not issues that could terminate a contract.

We are talking NRL athletes not a back yard wrestling troupe

 

[Jimmie]

This is contrary to everything published or commentated on..
Seriously your in dreamland..

KPIs.. yes.. but these are footballing contracts .. the KPIs are in line with physical requirements the club expects..
Ie.. body fat ratios, training goal performance based, and beep test results, turning up to training and club functions.. all of which are not actually grounds to sack a player but give them warnings.
No player has lost a contract from these KPIs.

other KPIs are bonus payment based like playing origin, playing "x" amount of NRL games etc..again nothing to have a contract cancelled or a player to backflip..

There are certainly no KPIs relating to on field performance.. total BS

The players union would have a "canary" if a club had on field performance as a KPI and further if it meant a players contract could be cancelled and then terminated.

Total BS @Jimmie.. your a Roosters stooge.. or totally brain dead biased pro Roosters fan boy.

Please enough with the crap..

Fafita backflipped no Nick Politis KPIs at all.. so you really think people are that stupid..

Why do you think there a players union?.. certainly not to allow clubs to put on field KPIs in a contract that can then trigger termination.

And as I said all the other KPIs are training and official club attendance and they are not issues that could terminate a contract.

We are talking NRL athletes not a back yard wrestling tro

You are now simply making **** up to justify your position….i never said anything about on field performance KPI s champ you did .i never said the contract was terminated because Fifita did not meet KPIs you did. In fact I think James hooper reported at the time politis pulled the contract because Fifita had expressed some doubts . The roosters side of the storey is that your buddy that you seem to have a hard on for was worried he couldn’t meet the roosters work ethic . No doubt Fifita has a different storey to tell.However it Now seems Des has had enough as well so I know who I believe .Feel free to move to the Gold Coast and support your man in reserve grade as he meets his KPIs and over the top wage.

 

[TokyoEagle]

You are now simply making **** up to justify your position….i never said anything about on field performance KPI s champ you did .i never said the contract was terminated because Fifita did not meet KPIs you did. In fact I think James hooper reported at the time politis pulled the contract because Fifita had expressed some doubts . The roosters side of the storey is that your buddy that you seem to have a hard on for was worried he couldn’t meet the roosters work ethic . No doubt Fifita has a different storey to tell.However it Now seems Des has had enough as well so I know who I believe .Feel free to move to the Gold Coast and support your man in reserve grade as he meets his KPIs and over the top wage.

Fifita’s decision had nothing to do with KPIs - it was about loyalty to the GC.

Maybe time to let this one go as the argument you are putting forward just doesn't pass the bull**** test.

 

[Disco]

Matterson over Fifita......I've now heard it all.

 

[Darren]

I find it interesting that the roosters can go and instantly get rid of players to get more eg Spencer, Smith and Young. The NRL need to watch this as it just sounds so dodgy. Maybe we need to do this with a back like Koula etc and bring in a gun forward?

 

[Ben]

I find it interesting that the roosters can go and instantly get rid of players to get more eg Spencer, Smith and Young. The NRL need to watch this as it just sounds so dodgy. Maybe we need to do this with a back like Koula etc and bring in a gun forward?

The moment we move Koula on he will explode into the attacking threat we know he can be. One of the best defensive centres in the game and still very young. I would persevere with him as I see him as a big part of our core group.