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Paul Kent: Bob Fulton’s Manly legacy driving the next golden generation at the Sea Eagles​

The late Bob Fulton loved proving people wrong, and PAUL KENT reveals just how deep the Immortal’s influence on this Manly roster goes.

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July 21, 2021 - 7:00AM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom


It surprises nobody that Bob Fulton, who created a bigger shadow in the game than anybody else that ever scuffed his knees, is still wielding influence at Manly.
He had a way of understanding the game that was often sought and rarely found, the ability to take the complex and make it simple.

He liked his players fast and big. He wanted a style that exaggerated that advantage.

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But it wasn’t working out that way earlier this season, when the cancer had him and he was unaware of the fatal hold it would have on him, and he watched the Sea Eagles be something south of awful through the first four rounds.

They conceded 156 points in those first four games, and so Fulton responded the only way he knew how, which was to pester coach Des Hasler on the phone and urge changes to style and roster that he was sure would improve them.

Bob Fulton loved proving the critics wrong.

Bob Fulton loved proving the critics wrong.
There was plenty of frustration in him at the time. He drove Hasler crazy.

The one thing he could barely stand was Manly performing poorly. It irritated him.

What he saw in this Manly team was a team failing to make good on six years of work that began after Manly failed to make the finals, after a decade of success, and Geoff Toovey was ousted as coach and Trent Barrett hired.




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It was no quick fix back then, he realised, and so Fulton did what he always did and broke everything up and recreated it in his own style.

He recognised the traditional way of developing players through the junior system was archaic and left clubs vulnerable. The Manly junior league, which some clubs still hold on to, no longer produced enough quality players to be relied upon to feed players.

So he turned to who he could trust, which was family, and didn’t that make some noisy.

The Sea Eagles have identified talented juniors like Josh Schuster at a young age. Picture: Chris Hyde/Getty Images

The Sea Eagles have identified talented juniors like Josh Schuster at a young age. Picture: Chris Hyde/Getty Images
Son Brett looked at the way English clubs developed players, creating elite pathways that worked beyond simple talent.

Players needed to be coached like elite senior players the moment they entered the system.

Players were signed as young as 14 and developed, from the moment they signed, to play the way Manly wanted to play football.

Not even men, barely teenagers, they were assisted not just with football but through schooling and whatever personal issues they had, an all-stop shop at the Sea Eagles.

Daughter Kristie was brought in to run it. Son Scott was hired to recruit.

The noise grew. Fulton was creating jobs for his family. His critics thought they had found an edge.

I never saw anybody that laughed off being hated so much. He understood it from the moment he signed at Manly and they began booing the Sea Eagles across Sydney every time they ran oil to an away ground.

It meant he was winning, understanding that hatred was often driven by bitter jealousy.

The Sea Eagles linked with Blacktown, as their NSW Cup team, which further outraged locals in the Manly area.

Young players like Sean Keppie have allowed Manly to rise this season. Picture: Chris Hyde/Getty Images

Young players like Sean Keppie have allowed Manly to rise this season. Picture: Chris Hyde/Getty Images
Now they were shipping players in from out of the junior league, like this would ever work.

Emails even started landing my way condemning Fulton, daring me to write it, unaware of what he was building at the club or that, eventually, what would happen is what is happening now.

He laughed them off.

Later, Barrett quit and Hasler returned and he brought Noel Cleal back with him.

Cleal and Scott have worked closely since.

The elite pathways continued being driven, even through the occasional managerial hiccup in head office, with a clarity of purpose.

What was not being recognised at Manly was that inner sense Fulton had.

Wayne Bennett was an early rival, even enemy of Fulton, but later said how he had known only three great talent scouts in his time in the game, those being the great Broncos scout Cyril Connell, former Raiders and Kangaroos coach Don Furner, and Fulton.

His eye for talent was pitch perfect.

Now look at where the Sea Eagles are, the rewards for those early years, when they resisted the noise and believed in what they were doing.

Haumole Olakau'ata has been a revelation this season, and the Sea Eagles have locked him down until at least the end of the 2024 season. Picture: Matt King/Getty Images

Haumole Olakau'ata has been a revelation this season, and the Sea Eagles have locked him down until at least the end of the 2024 season. Picture: Matt King/Getty Images
With Manly’s Origin stars rested or injured, 13 of the Manly 17 in last Friday’s win over St George Illawarra were signed by Scott.

They include the potential superstars like Josh Schuster and rising stars like Haumole Olakau’atu, Toafofoa Sipley and Sean Keppie. The youth that has helped Manly rise this season.

Fulton’s influence was there in Marty Taupau and Dylan Walker, both of whom he signed.

Sidelined were several significant others he contracted, mainly Tom and Jake Trbojevic, Curtis Sironen and captain Daly Cherry-Evans.

“We are in a situation where we’re reaping the benefits of those juniors who have come through,” Hasler said Tuesday.

“You talk to Scott and Brett, they’ve developed these guys.

“Schuster was a Parramatta junior but he wasn’t rated, so it’s not always the pick of the crop.”

As a player or administrator, Bob Fulton had a lasting impact.

As a player or administrator, Bob Fulton had a lasting impact.
Hasler likened it to his first stint at Manly when the Sea Eagles came through and won a premiership with the likes of Brett and Glenn Stewart, Anthony Watmough, and Kieran Foran and Cherry-Evans.

 

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Paul Kent: Bob Fulton’s Manly legacy driving the next golden generation at the Sea Eagles​

The late Bob Fulton loved proving people wrong, and PAUL KENT reveals just how deep the Immortal’s influence on this Manly roster goes.

Paul Kent
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4 min read
July 21, 2021 - 7:00AM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom


It surprises nobody that Bob Fulton, who created a bigger shadow in the game than anybody else that ever scuffed his knees, is still wielding influence at Manly.
He had a way of understanding the game that was often sought and rarely found, the ability to take the complex and make it simple.

He liked his players fast and big. He wanted a style that exaggerated that advantage.

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But it wasn’t working out that way earlier this season, when the cancer had him and he was unaware of the fatal hold it would have on him, and he watched the Sea Eagles be something south of awful through the first four rounds.

They conceded 156 points in those first four games, and so Fulton responded the only way he knew how, which was to pester coach Des Hasler on the phone and urge changes to style and roster that he was sure would improve them.

Bob Fulton loved proving the critics wrong.

Bob Fulton loved proving the critics wrong.
There was plenty of frustration in him at the time. He drove Hasler crazy.

The one thing he could barely stand was Manly performing poorly. It irritated him.

What he saw in this Manly team was a team failing to make good on six years of work that began after Manly failed to make the finals, after a decade of success, and Geoff Toovey was ousted as coach and Trent Barrett hired.




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It was no quick fix back then, he realised, and so Fulton did what he always did and broke everything up and recreated it in his own style.

He recognised the traditional way of developing players through the junior system was archaic and left clubs vulnerable. The Manly junior league, which some clubs still hold on to, no longer produced enough quality players to be relied upon to feed players.

So he turned to who he could trust, which was family, and didn’t that make some noisy.

The Sea Eagles have identified talented juniors like Josh Schuster at a young age. Picture: Chris Hyde/Getty Images

The Sea Eagles have identified talented juniors like Josh Schuster at a young age. Picture: Chris Hyde/Getty Images
Son Brett looked at the way English clubs developed players, creating elite pathways that worked beyond simple talent.

Players needed to be coached like elite senior players the moment they entered the system.

Players were signed as young as 14 and developed, from the moment they signed, to play the way Manly wanted to play football.

Not even men, barely teenagers, they were assisted not just with football but through schooling and whatever personal issues they had, an all-stop shop at the Sea Eagles.

Daughter Kristie was brought in to run it. Son Scott was hired to recruit.

The noise grew. Fulton was creating jobs for his family. His critics thought they had found an edge.

I never saw anybody that laughed off being hated so much. He understood it from the moment he signed at Manly and they began booing the Sea Eagles across Sydney every time they ran oil to an away ground.

It meant he was winning, understanding that hatred was often driven by bitter jealousy.

The Sea Eagles linked with Blacktown, as their NSW Cup team, which further outraged locals in the Manly area.

Young players like Sean Keppie have allowed Manly to rise this season. Picture: Chris Hyde/Getty Images

Young players like Sean Keppie have allowed Manly to rise this season. Picture: Chris Hyde/Getty Images
Now they were shipping players in from out of the junior league, like this would ever work.

Emails even started landing my way condemning Fulton, daring me to write it, unaware of what he was building at the club or that, eventually, what would happen is what is happening now.

He laughed them off.

Later, Barrett quit and Hasler returned and he brought Noel Cleal back with him.

Cleal and Scott have worked closely since.

The elite pathways continued being driven, even through the occasional managerial hiccup in head office, with a clarity of purpose.

What was not being recognised at Manly was that inner sense Fulton had.

Wayne Bennett was an early rival, even enemy of Fulton, but later said how he had known only three great talent scouts in his time in the game, those being the great Broncos scout Cyril Connell, former Raiders and Kangaroos coach Don Furner, and Fulton.

His eye for talent was pitch perfect.

Now look at where the Sea Eagles are, the rewards for those early years, when they resisted the noise and believed in what they were doing.

Haumole Olakau'ata has been a revelation this season, and the Sea Eagles have locked him down until at least the end of the 2024 season. Picture: Matt King/Getty Images'ata has been a revelation this season, and the Sea Eagles have locked him down until at least the end of the 2024 season. Picture: Matt King/Getty Images

Haumole Olakau'ata has been a revelation this season, and the Sea Eagles have locked him down until at least the end of the 2024 season. Picture: Matt King/Getty Images
With Manly’s Origin stars rested or injured, 13 of the Manly 17 in last Friday’s win over St George Illawarra were signed by Scott.

They include the potential superstars like Josh Schuster and rising stars like Haumole Olakau’atu, Toafofoa Sipley and Sean Keppie. The youth that has helped Manly rise this season.

Fulton’s influence was there in Marty Taupau and Dylan Walker, both of whom he signed.

Sidelined were several significant others he contracted, mainly Tom and Jake Trbojevic, Curtis Sironen and captain Daly Cherry-Evans.

“We are in a situation where we’re reaping the benefits of those juniors who have come through,” Hasler said Tuesday.

“You talk to Scott and Brett, they’ve developed these guys.

“Schuster was a Parramatta junior but he wasn’t rated, so it’s not always the pick of the crop.”

As a player or administrator, Bob Fulton had a lasting impact.

As a player or administrator, Bob Fulton had a lasting impact.
Hasler likened it to his first stint at Manly when the Sea Eagles came through and won a premiership with the likes of Brett and Glenn Stewart, Anthony Watmough, and Kieran Foran and Cherry-Evans.

Awesome article. I remember all the so called Manly "faithful" on here who were bagging the great Bozo. Putting the boot in because his family had positions within the club. Nepotism they called it - get that up ya!
 

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Awesome article. I remember all the so called Manly "faithful" on here who were bagging the great Bozo. Putting the boot in because his family had positions within the club. Nepotism they called it - get that up ya!
Quickly scans previous posts to see if I was one of them before liking the post.
 

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You do know what nepotism is, don't you?
Sure, but in this instance, the best people got the job, irrespective of the fact they were all Fultons. As per usual, the know nothing mob all claimed that the appointments made by Bozo were wrong. Some even pointed to it as a reason why the club was doing poorly.

Much like the sack Hasler and Penn family crew.
 

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They have done very well for us the Fultons.

I must say I didn't hear as much dissent as Kent makes out. I recall some Beacon Hill parents being upset that some kids were bussed in from out west to play for them, putting their own kids down a grade - but this is really a local junior league contretemps, hardly the big issue Kent reckons.
 

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Awesome article. I remember all the so called Manly "faithful" on here who were bagging the great Bozo. Putting the boot in because his family had positions within the club. Nepotism they called it - get that up ya!
The Incomparable Immortal looked after his two families like any descent human being does

His Family and the Our Manly family

The ones that do not value his great family principles

Sadly do not have any idea of what good family principles are

The opposition fans booed Bozo and so did some of our own ignorant people

But like a True winning Sea eagle
Bozo always rose above all
to remain the Greatest Sea eagle of them all
The one and only Incomparable Immortal

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Paul Kent: Bob Fulton’s Manly legacy driving the next golden generation at the Sea Eagles​

The late Bob Fulton loved proving people wrong, and PAUL KENT reveals just how deep the Immortal’s influence on this Manly roster goes.

Paul Kent
Follow

4 min read
July 21, 2021 - 7:00AM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom


It surprises nobody that Bob Fulton, who created a bigger shadow in the game than anybody else that ever scuffed his knees, is still wielding influence at Manly.
He had a way of understanding the game that was often sought and rarely found, the ability to take the complex and make it simple.

He liked his players fast and big. He wanted a style that exaggerated that advantage.

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But it wasn’t working out that way earlier this season, when the cancer had him and he was unaware of the fatal hold it would have on him, and he watched the Sea Eagles be something south of awful through the first four rounds.

They conceded 156 points in those first four games, and so Fulton responded the only way he knew how, which was to pester coach Des Hasler on the phone and urge changes to style and roster that he was sure would improve them.

Bob Fulton loved proving the critics wrong.

Bob Fulton loved proving the critics wrong.
There was plenty of frustration in him at the time. He drove Hasler crazy.

The one thing he could barely stand was Manly performing poorly. It irritated him.

What he saw in this Manly team was a team failing to make good on six years of work that began after Manly failed to make the finals, after a decade of success, and Geoff Toovey was ousted as coach and Trent Barrett hired.




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It was no quick fix back then, he realised, and so Fulton did what he always did and broke everything up and recreated it in his own style.

He recognised the traditional way of developing players through the junior system was archaic and left clubs vulnerable. The Manly junior league, which some clubs still hold on to, no longer produced enough quality players to be relied upon to feed players.

So he turned to who he could trust, which was family, and didn’t that make some noisy.

The Sea Eagles have identified talented juniors like Josh Schuster at a young age. Picture: Chris Hyde/Getty Images

The Sea Eagles have identified talented juniors like Josh Schuster at a young age. Picture: Chris Hyde/Getty Images
Son Brett looked at the way English clubs developed players, creating elite pathways that worked beyond simple talent.

Players needed to be coached like elite senior players the moment they entered the system.

Players were signed as young as 14 and developed, from the moment they signed, to play the way Manly wanted to play football.

Not even men, barely teenagers, they were assisted not just with football but through schooling and whatever personal issues they had, an all-stop shop at the Sea Eagles.

Daughter Kristie was brought in to run it. Son Scott was hired to recruit.

The noise grew. Fulton was creating jobs for his family. His critics thought they had found an edge.

I never saw anybody that laughed off being hated so much. He understood it from the moment he signed at Manly and they began booing the Sea Eagles across Sydney every time they ran oil to an away ground.

It meant he was winning, understanding that hatred was often driven by bitter jealousy.

The Sea Eagles linked with Blacktown, as their NSW Cup team, which further outraged locals in the Manly area.

Young players like Sean Keppie have allowed Manly to rise this season. Picture: Chris Hyde/Getty Images

Young players like Sean Keppie have allowed Manly to rise this season. Picture: Chris Hyde/Getty Images
Now they were shipping players in from out of the junior league, like this would ever work.

Emails even started landing my way condemning Fulton, daring me to write it, unaware of what he was building at the club or that, eventually, what would happen is what is happening now.

He laughed them off.

Later, Barrett quit and Hasler returned and he brought Noel Cleal back with him.

Cleal and Scott have worked closely since.

The elite pathways continued being driven, even through the occasional managerial hiccup in head office, with a clarity of purpose.

What was not being recognised at Manly was that inner sense Fulton had.

Wayne Bennett was an early rival, even enemy of Fulton, but later said how he had known only three great talent scouts in his time in the game, those being the great Broncos scout Cyril Connell, former Raiders and Kangaroos coach Don Furner, and Fulton.

His eye for talent was pitch perfect.

Now look at where the Sea Eagles are, the rewards for those early years, when they resisted the noise and believed in what they were doing.

Haumole Olakau'ata has been a revelation this season, and the Sea Eagles have locked him down until at least the end of the 2024 season. Picture: Matt King/Getty Images'ata has been a revelation this season, and the Sea Eagles have locked him down until at least the end of the 2024 season. Picture: Matt King/Getty Images

Haumole Olakau'ata has been a revelation this season, and the Sea Eagles have locked him down until at least the end of the 2024 season. Picture: Matt King/Getty Images
With Manly’s Origin stars rested or injured, 13 of the Manly 17 in last Friday’s win over St George Illawarra were signed by Scott.

They include the potential superstars like Josh Schuster and rising stars like Haumole Olakau’atu, Toafofoa Sipley and Sean Keppie. The youth that has helped Manly rise this season.

Fulton’s influence was there in Marty Taupau and Dylan Walker, both of whom he signed.

Sidelined were several significant others he contracted, mainly Tom and Jake Trbojevic, Curtis Sironen and captain Daly Cherry-Evans.

“We are in a situation where we’re reaping the benefits of those juniors who have come through,” Hasler said Tuesday.

“You talk to Scott and Brett, they’ve developed these guys.

“Schuster was a Parramatta junior but he wasn’t rated, so it’s not always the pick of the crop.”

As a player or administrator, Bob Fulton had a lasting impact.

As a player or administrator, Bob Fulton had a lasting impact.
Hasler likened it to his first stint at Manly when the Sea Eagles came through and won a premiership with the likes of Brett and Glenn Stewart, Anthony Watmough, and Kieran Foran and Cherry-Evans.

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Another reminder that Manly are ahead of the game once again
You can’t always have success year in year out but if you have a plan it will surface eventually and the success will come again
 

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Paul Kent is hardly what you would call an impartial observer on this topic, so I wouldn't be taking this article as gospel. He makes some valid points but he is also looking after his good mate.

Bozo wasn't infallible, but he genuinely had the clubs best interests in mind at all times I suspect. He was also ultra competitive so that drive permeated a lot of what he did in the football sphere, which may have rubbed up some the wrong way.
 
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They have done very well for us the Fultons.

I must say I didn't hear as much dissent as Kent makes out. I recall some Beacon Hill parents being upset that some kids were bussed in from out west to play for them, putting their own kids down a grade - but this is really a local junior league contretemps, hardly the big issue Kent reckons.
The dissent was on here, and there was plenty.
 

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Bozo signed Barrett and let Gutho go so not totally infailable
Perspective time

The Infailable Incomparable Immortal has never failed . Others have failed to live up to his great high standards

The Infailable Incomparable Immortal has kept the best player in the world in Tom . The cap does not allow you to keep them all .

Every one repeat after me
The Infailable Incomparable Immortal has never failed . Others have failed to live up to his great high standards
 
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The Infailable Incomparable Immortal and has never failed . Others have failed to live up to his great high standards

The Infailable Incomparable Immortal has kept the best player in the world in Tom . The cap does not allow you to keep them all .

Every one repeat after me
The Infailable Incomparable Immortal and has never failed . Others have failed to live up to his great high standards
The Gutho argument is dead in the water. He's a fullback - we already have the best fullback in the NRL. The club chose Turbo over Gutho - happy days!
 

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Noel Cleal had a reputation for scouting top talent in the bush. Has he had any such success in recent years, or are we relying heavily on the Blacktown connection for our up-and-coming talent?
 

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