Are the Bulldogs the new Roosters ??

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maxta

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If they are allowed to keep buying players and have an unlimited salary cap, they will definitely compete, but will have players playing for cash and not the emblem which will make and break them in big games.....Manly did similar long ago, but I believe there was "NO" salary cap in those times...
 

jbb/james

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Being able to purchase a year early makes it look worse. They went through lean times to get the big purse. Thats not the roosters at all

there proposed backline for round 1 is pretty average IMO and im not seeing any million plus players.

yeah im butt hurt, and have cap envy too but we spent like lunatics on potential with tom, jake and dce. Only tom has delivered his contract price in game quality but misses so many it hurts. jake was paid on what he used to bring to the side before linkman came to town and blunted his effectiveness to just defence
 

manly al

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Laundy family has pledged quite a bit more financial support as well in recent times . That could be utilized in many ways including after career inducements . Be interesting of the number and composition of 3 rd party deals at the Bull Dogs as well . Used to be around the 20 mil figure to adequately run a N R L franchise and with the previous 13 mil N R L allocation so still need that additional 7 mil or so from whatever source , Must be pushing the limits though of any larger scale Leagues club with any talk of 6 or so mil going to the footy department . Could have a quite capable coach now but still untested as a head coach , a few big names on board now but still hardly a glamour outfit . Certainly plenty of money being thrown in their direction , just have to wait and see , . Manly at full or near full strength should be able to match them and definitely have an edge all things going well .
 

Red Pill

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I think their strategy of buying a players a year early may backfire on them in the sense if you over do it. It can send a message to players, playing this year that there might not be enough cap room for them as contract renewals come up. This certainly does not help with team unity/spirit…
 

manly al

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Seems a bit of a contrast with the Gould approach in relation to previously the Panthers and now the Dogs . Method or main approach at the Panthers , mainly developing and relying on promising juniors and good prospects . Dogs , simply money and some high profile recruits . Would have to expect some incremental improvement but could be just that .
 

47MVEagle

Bencher
Still want to know the logistics of how TPPs are arranged.

If the club has to remain ‘at arms length’ how can they offer a player a contract that is to be topped up with a TPP?

So player x is offered $1m a season to come to club y, but the club is paying $800k & the remaining $200k is to be tipped in by a 3rd party.

Is the player & his manager expected to spruik 3rd parties for the extra $200k?

If so, how can the club offer $1m?
 

Will on the hill

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Still want to know the logistics of how TPPs are arranged.

If the club has to remain ‘at arms length’ how can they offer a player a contract that is to be topped up with a TPP?

So player x is offered $1m a season to come to club y, but the club is paying $800k & the remaining $200k is to be tipped in by a 3rd party.

Is the player & his manager expected to spruik 3rd parties for the extra $200k?

If so, how can the club offer $1m?
The club cannot offer more than is included in the salary cap. The TPAs are meant to be between the player and a third party with no contingency on said player playing for any particular club. In reality it is an easy way for rich club owners to use their money and influence to persuade players to join/stay at a club.
 

47MVEagle

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The club cannot offer more than is included in the salary cap. The TPAs are meant to be between the player and a third party with no contingency on said player playing for any particular club. In reality it is an easy way for rich club owners to use their money and influence to persuade players to join/stay at a club.
Sure, I realise the club is bound by the salary cap but say there’s a bidding war for player x & club A offers $800k per season while club B offers $900k per season.

The players accepts club A’s offer (we see it happen all the time with Storm & Roosters players).

Given the NRLs dictum that 3rd party deals must be conducted between the player, his manager & the 3rd party only & cannot be bound to any particular club, why would any player accept the lower offer to play at club A over club B?

Obviously because (as you say) rich club owners are involved in the deals in some way, making a complete mockery of the whole rule, yet either the NRL choose not to investigate or perform only a perfunctory investigation in these cases to make it look like they’re enforcing the rule.
 

conanu

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Bulldogs are doing a similar thing to what Barrett and Bozo did in when Barrett took over from Tooves, We bought Marty Tapau, Nate Myles, Dylan Walker, Api Korisau all in one big swoop for Barrett. They don't sound like big signings now after it all panned out badly, but they were at the time. It doesn't guarantee success we were a case in point. Tigers did similar with Cleary signing a heap and it stuffed them up. My guess is Gus has back ended everyone and if they don't get instant success they are in big trouble.
 

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