2025 recruitment & retention
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ManlyTragic
Bencher
Where has he been for the past 3 years?
On the Kennel, they basically say that he has had absolutely awful luck. Has a lot of promise, and showed that many times, but has been consistently injured, and often it wasn't his own fault.
From what I can gather, his pros are that he is a big body, apparently a strong defender and a hard runner. Willie Mason said he was the future of the Bulldogs pack earlier this year, with Gould and Ciraldo also rating him. On his returns from injury, he was often selected to start for them, which speaks to his potential. However, between lacking fitness for a long time, due to his injuries, and not having a pre-season this year, they seemed to limit his minutes. Either way he would reinjure himself and be carrying something at any one time.
We somehow pulled off getting Turbo 20+ games this year. There have been noticeably less injuries this year at Manly, for sure, and I credit whatever changes occured to the physio team. Is that what Jon Clarke, or whatever his name is, runs?
On the contrary, it seems like there is always an injury crisis at the Bulldogs. I doubt that helped him. With that in mind, and how Brown resurged after a Seibs pre-season, I have an open mind here.
From what I can gather, his pros are that he is a big body, apparently a strong defender and a hard runner. Willie Mason said he was the future of the Bulldogs pack earlier this year, with Gould and Ciraldo also rating him. On his returns from injury, he was often selected to start for them, which speaks to his potential. However, between lacking fitness for a long time, due to his injuries, and not having a pre-season this year, they seemed to limit his minutes. Either way he would reinjure himself and be carrying something at any one time.
We somehow pulled off getting Turbo 20+ games this year. There have been noticeably less injuries this year at Manly, for sure, and I credit whatever changes occured to the physio team. Is that what Jon Clarke, or whatever his name is, runs?
On the contrary, it seems like there is always an injury crisis at the Bulldogs. I doubt that helped him. With that in mind, and how Brown resurged after a Seibs pre-season, I have an open mind here.
SeaEagleSI1
Reserve Grader
Chris Patolo
2021 to 2024 27 games in Nrl
21 6 games
22 15 games
23 2 games
24 4 games
Nrl stats 2024
4 games
1 tackle break
32 post contact
18 tackles 94.7 tackle efficiency
23 average meters
NSW Cup 2024
13 games
5 tackle breaks
Average hit ups 6.5
399.9 post contact meters
2 offloads
274 tackles 93.8 tackle efficiency
78 average run meters
1026 total running meters
2021 to 2024 27 games in Nrl
21 6 games
22 15 games
23 2 games
24 4 games
Nrl stats 2024
4 games
1 tackle break
32 post contact
18 tackles 94.7 tackle efficiency
23 average meters
NSW Cup 2024
13 games
5 tackle breaks
Average hit ups 6.5
399.9 post contact meters
2 offloads
274 tackles 93.8 tackle efficiency
78 average run meters
1026 total running meters
Smokin Joe
Bencher
The 4 NRL games he played this year was for a grand total of 38 minutes.
His stats are essentially for one half of a game.
madmax
Bencher
Grow up mate…..you’re the one who obviously has no logic. I’m not using emotion, rather sense unlike you! Dahhh let’s get rid of our backs to buy forwards. PS I’m not your pal.
KNUCKLES
Bencher
Are you a bit dense or what?
The '47ers
Your resident two-headed Queenslander
From what I can gather he's had a few knee blow outs (same knee) I mean these days that's not that a big deal, just hope his injury luck changes with us.
double hoops
First Grader
Looking like Volkman has bolted.
Nordburg
First Grader
Not suggesting the story is wrong nor his link to Manly was BS,but just a reminder that his manager is the one and only Mario Tartak and anything could be at play with this.Maybe Mario is using the Eels as bait to get Manly to offer him a Top 30 contract rather than their original plans
Mal Cochrane
I'm not really Mal Cochrane...
Ideally as a footballer and fitness levels required in today's game, I'd suggest he would do well to give it up
double hoops
First Grader
Where is @Cliffy's Ciggy
madmax
Bencher
Nah not dense mate…..just not the expert in Salary Cap situations like you. Rob Peter to pay Paul.
eaglezap
Member
NRL Market Watch: Manly Sea Eagles look to sign Wests Tigers outcast John Bateman
Manly are exploring the possibility of bringing a Wests Tigers outcast to the Sea Eagles as they look to strengthen their premiership aspirations, possibly saving him from NRL purgatory in the process.
Michael Carayannis and Brent Read
Manly are mulling over a move for English back-rower John Bateman as they look to save him from the threat of NRL purgatory at the Wests Tigers.
This masthead understands that while any move is still in its infancy, the Sea Eagles have begun exploring the possibility of bringing Bateman to Sydney’s Northern Beaches as they look to strengthen their premiership aspirations.
Bateman has two years remaining on his deal at the Tigers but it is understood they would not stand in his way should he find another club.
The English back-rower finished last season on loan at Super League side Warrington and there was talk that he would stay there rather than return to Sydney.
However, it is understood Bateman – currently in England for their Test series against Samoa – wants to remain in the NRL and Manly may offer him the chance to move to a premiership contender.
The Tigers are unlikely to put up a fight. Tigers chief executive Shane Richardson last week made clear the club’s frustrations with Bateman, insisting he would face consequences unless he fell into line behind Marshall after the pair had a documented falling out.
John Bateman could be on his way to the Northern Beaches. Picture: NRL Photos/Gregg Porteous
The 31-year-old is believed to be on about $650,000 a season and the Tigers would likely need to contribute over the next two years to make a deal viable.
Again, that isn’t expected to prevent the move going ahead if Manly decide to crystallise their interest by opening talks with the Tigers.
The Sea Eagles are in a premiership window and, should they press ahead with their pursuit of Bateman, it would arm them with another weapon in their forward pack.
He showed flashes of his best at the Tigers over the past two years but struggled to find any consistency as the club finished the season with a third successive wooden spoon.
Whispers of a potential move for Bateman have been circulating in England, where he will be a key figure for the national side against Samoa.
Interestingly, the Samoan side is led by Penrith superstar Jarome Luai, who was set to be a teammate of Bateman’s at the Tigers next season.
They may find themselves on opposing teams now as Manly circle Bateman, who may not be the only Tigers player on the move this off-season.
The club has also made it clear that the likes of Jayden Sullivan, Brent Naden and Charlie Staines are free to leave if they can find another home.
Manly are exploring the possibility of bringing a Wests Tigers outcast to the Sea Eagles as they look to strengthen their premiership aspirations, possibly saving him from NRL purgatory in the process.
Michael Carayannis and Brent Read
Manly are mulling over a move for English back-rower John Bateman as they look to save him from the threat of NRL purgatory at the Wests Tigers.
This masthead understands that while any move is still in its infancy, the Sea Eagles have begun exploring the possibility of bringing Bateman to Sydney’s Northern Beaches as they look to strengthen their premiership aspirations.
Bateman has two years remaining on his deal at the Tigers but it is understood they would not stand in his way should he find another club.
The English back-rower finished last season on loan at Super League side Warrington and there was talk that he would stay there rather than return to Sydney.
However, it is understood Bateman – currently in England for their Test series against Samoa – wants to remain in the NRL and Manly may offer him the chance to move to a premiership contender.
The Tigers are unlikely to put up a fight. Tigers chief executive Shane Richardson last week made clear the club’s frustrations with Bateman, insisting he would face consequences unless he fell into line behind Marshall after the pair had a documented falling out.
John Bateman could be on his way to the Northern Beaches. Picture: NRL Photos/Gregg Porteous
The 31-year-old is believed to be on about $650,000 a season and the Tigers would likely need to contribute over the next two years to make a deal viable.
Again, that isn’t expected to prevent the move going ahead if Manly decide to crystallise their interest by opening talks with the Tigers.
The Sea Eagles are in a premiership window and, should they press ahead with their pursuit of Bateman, it would arm them with another weapon in their forward pack.
He showed flashes of his best at the Tigers over the past two years but struggled to find any consistency as the club finished the season with a third successive wooden spoon.
Whispers of a potential move for Bateman have been circulating in England, where he will be a key figure for the national side against Samoa.
Interestingly, the Samoan side is led by Penrith superstar Jarome Luai, who was set to be a teammate of Bateman’s at the Tigers next season.
They may find themselves on opposing teams now as Manly circle Bateman, who may not be the only Tigers player on the move this off-season.
The club has also made it clear that the likes of Jayden Sullivan, Brent Naden and Charlie Staines are free to leave if they can find another home.
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Make it happen at his best he is s gun. Will fire up in a decent team like he did when he was at the raiders. He also fulfills the requirement of all our signings coming from the tigers.
Maybe this is where the schuster money could be getting invested. Looks like it could be a lot of manager talk though?
Nordburg
First Grader
Obviously you’ve been watching Bateman highlights from early Raiders days because he hasn’t been a “gun” for a long time,even his last year in Canberra
double hoops
First Grader
Yeah I've kind of been expecting the media to link us with Bateman. At his best, he is kind of the exact backrower Manly need. Smaller, a worker, but dosent take a backwards step. There's was a bit of watmough about him at the Raiders.
Tigers clearly didn't think he'd come back and want him gone. He looked pretty bad at the tigers. Is that the environment, is that the man?
I like that Manly are in the conversation.
What's the go with our cap. First $150 for Lodge he wants to stay, loves it here, but might have to move to superleague.
Then Not enough cash for Takiahoe to even talk.
Just the other day we are apparently trying to offload someone unsuccessfully to have the funds to honour our agreement with Volkmann.
Yet we have $650 for this bloke?
My take. Im think we have some dollars left. Agents know it and might be upping there price accordingly. We might be playing hard ball too. Interesting time.
Tigers clearly didn't think he'd come back and want him gone. He looked pretty bad at the tigers. Is that the environment, is that the man?
I like that Manly are in the conversation.
What's the go with our cap. First $150 for Lodge he wants to stay, loves it here, but might have to move to superleague.
Then Not enough cash for Takiahoe to even talk.
Just the other day we are apparently trying to offload someone unsuccessfully to have the funds to honour our agreement with Volkmann.
Yet we have $650 for this bloke?
My take. Im think we have some dollars left. Agents know it and might be upping there price accordingly. We might be playing hard ball too. Interesting time.
One minute the press reporting that we are trying to offload someone to sign Volkman and now we are interested in Bateman. I don't know what to believe.
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