2020 hooker (and Fainu disc.)

[The Who]

Three witnesses allegedly saw the Guildford man wielding a 10cm knife during the October 25 fight that his victim started by swinging a bat.



"Three witnesses allegedly saw the Guildford man wielding a 10cm knife during the October 25 fight that his victim started by swinging a bat".

Amazing, now we have a swinging bat in the mix. If that information is to be believed, then it is understandable why a stabbing took place. This is why no decisions can ever be made until the entire story is heard from both sides, and in court.

David Warner was seen swinging a bat.
No, that was mistaken identity.

 

[HoldenV8]

Can I nominate Peppermint or Cinnamon as our next hooker? 😎

 

[MuzztheEagle]

Be very interested to know if any of these three witnesses saw him stabbing the victim, rather than "wielding a knife". Also interested to know how "semi independent" these witnesses turn out to be. As urulion says, we really don't know anything yet.

If I was working for the defence; I would question any witnesses' judgement based on the fact that they are willing to believe in the Mormon faith. If you are convinced that Jesus packed up and moved to North America to live with (white) natives and all this was enlightened to us by golden plates only seen by one man, then what else could you be convinced of as truth?
.....but I'm getting off topic again 😉

 

[manly al]

Recall a couple of weeks ago or so that the investigation then was including police interviewing or maybe even considering charging someone also present with either using or having a baseball bat . Didn 't mention if he was an associate of Manase but based on these up to date reports , obviously not . Seems to put a different sort of complexion on the alleged incident if the guy with the baseball bat may have been the aggressor or provoked it and maybe even more doubt also over Manase "s level of involvement

 

[BirdMan4ever]

Unfortunately, part of the problem is people who demand antibiotics at the slightest hint of a sniffle, instead of giving their own immune systems (and maybe some home or OTC remedies) the chance to do their thing. Antibiotic resistance is a massive problem in healthcare these days. Nursing homes and hospitals are basically breeding grounds for antibiotic resistant bugs.

well said....someone is awake, the body knows what to do, just give it the right ingredients not chemicals.

 

[MuzztheEagle]

Recall a couple of weeks ago or so that the investigation then was including police interviewing or maybe even considering charging someone also present with either using or having a baseball bat . Didn 't mention if he was an associate of Manase but based on these up to date reports , obviously not . Seems to put a different sort of complexion on the alleged incident if the guy with the baseball bat may have been the aggressor or provoked it and maybe even more doubt also over Manase "s level of involvement

Big Buck, Olakau'atu's younger brother:
Brother of Fainu's Manly teammate charged over church dance brawl
It's all very odd.

 

[The better Robbo]

Big Buck, Olakau'atu's younger brother:
Brother of Fainu's Manly teammate charged over church dance brawl
It's all very odd.

So it says the "victim" started by swinging a bat. Does that mean it was Olakautu's bro that got stabbed? You're right it is all extremely odd.
Manase actually posted on insta AGAIN 🙂 that "you cant trust anyone, doesn't matter how close you think you are" Obviously referring to Oloka's bro.
Surely Olokauatu can convince his bro to tell the truth! But they do say blood is thicker than water

 

[Shoe1]

It was a baton, now it’s a bat or even a baseball bat

 

[MuzztheEagle]

So it says the "victim" started by swinging a bat. Does that mean it was Olakautu's bro that got stabbed? You're right it is all extremely odd.
Manase actually posted on insta AGAIN 🙂 that "you cant trust anyone, doesn't matter how close you think you are" Obviously referring to Oloka's bro.
Surely Olokauatu can convince his bro to tell the truth! But they do say blood is thicker than water

Something else to worry about really. Even if Manase is cleared, (and before the end of the 2020 season) is there a major rift between parts of the playing group? And will this need a major cleanout of players to fix things?
I'm happy to give Manase the benefit of doubt but this is way more drama than the club and playing group needs.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Amazing, now we have a swinging bat in the mix. If that information is to be believed, then it is understandable why a stabbing took place. This is why no decisions can ever be made until the entire story is heard from both sides, and in court.

Doesn't help Manase because he told his lawyer (for reasons known only to himself) to publicly announce his defence was mistaken identity. That rules out him later saying, 'Aw yeah it was me - but hey, it was self defence.'
Criminal lawyers would normally never put a defence on record at such an early stage. You don't have to and certainly can backfire on you. Not saying it will backfire here, but definitely rules out self defence.

 

[The Who]

What are the Morman dance steps that require a bat and a knife?
A square cut?
Na, that's cricket.

 

[Ron E. Gibbs]

What are the Morman dance steps that require a bat and a knife?
A square cut?
Na, that's cricket.

You guys are hilarious. As they say in the USA, what a bunch of cut-ups…

 

[urulion]

Doesn't help Manase because he told his lawyer (for reasons known only to himself) to publicly announce his defence was mistaken identity. That rules out him later saying, 'Aw yeah it was me - but hey, it was self defence.'
Criminal lawyers would normally never put a defence on record at such an early stage. You don't have to and certainly can backfire on you. Not saying it will backfire here, but definitely rules out self defence.

Absolutely, and not even contemplating self defence. More going down the lines of people making speedy judgements on a person according to what information is pumped out by the press, without knowing any true facts about the person or the incident. If a bat was swung at me I would probably stab the useless f...head as well.

However, it will be very intriguing how these three witnesses describe/identify the swinging bat regarding size, shape, colour, markings, the amount of times swung, who it was swung by etc, in cross-examination, then identifying a 10cm knife (all in darkness). If a bat cannot be identified correctly, how can you identify a 10cm knife? and even correctly state it was a knife to start with?

Unless of course you are a Sea Eagle and have x-ray vision. The plot thickens 🙂

 

[eaglebuzz]

Stabbing a guy in the back isn't likely to play as "self defence" anyway.

 

[Bring back the.... Biff?]

Stabbing a guy in the back isn't likely to play as "self defence" anyway.

What if he swung the bat and missed causing his back to be exposed? 😉
What happened to the other fella that has been charged? Big buck was it?

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Stabbing a guy in the back isn't likely to play as "self defence" anyway.

Lol, good point! (Although self defence also includes defence of someone else, so I suppose it could be conceivable)

 

[sheridanstand78]

This is going to drag on for months, out of our control, such a shame cause Fainu is such a vital part of the team, we need other options now, combinations need to be developed otherwise DCE is the only main play maker , whatever the outcome or truth, I can't believe that Fainu would be involved in this, I truly hope that he can prove his innocence, it's dejavu our club.

 

[The Wheel]

Wonder if the time spent in incarceration contributed to the infection

 

[Shnorky]

If (and i am not stating he did) he was carrying a knife, I'm sure it wasn't for cutting up the Apple in his lunch box.
He is carrying a weapon that can and nearly did kill someone, if so - should be punished accordingly, rather than enjoying the life that he could have had.
Many on here are defending him as a self defence motive, why don't we just go down the US route and all carry guns so we can shoot people just in case we need to

 

[The Who]

If (and i am not stating he did) he was carrying a knife, I'm sure it wasn't for cutting up the Apple in his lunch box.
He is carrying a weapon that can and nearly did kill someone, if so - should be punished accordingly, rather than enjoying the life that he could have had.
Many on here are defending him as a self defence motive, why don't we just go down the US route and all carry guns so we can shoot people just in case we need to

Who says he was carrying a knife? There was a knife involved, but who brought it and who used it?
The case rests on mistaken identity, or not.