A lot of talk about how much BK did for Manly, but I think it ought to be recognised that Manly did a lot for BK. I must admit that I was a sceptic when he signed with us as I saw him as injury prone. Certainly 2002-4 with the Knights were not his finest years and, without the benefit og hindsight, a lot of Knights supporters were pretty glad to see him go as he was only good for an average of 10-12 games per season. I suspect he benefitted a lot from the professionalism of Manly and the fact that we look after our cattle a whole lot better. With two injury free seasons he was certainly able to elevate himself by: 1. Becoming a leader (captain) of men and emerging from the shadow of A Johns. 2. Showing that he contributed a lot more to Newcastle's success than previously suspected. 3. Going out of the game as one of the finest forwards of his generation, something that would never have happened had he been making tha hard yards for Johns, Gidley and Co. So yes, he did a lot for us in raising standards about the club, but we alos put a HUGE lustre on his reputation. Let's hope he feels a debt of gratitude and punts Roach from his feeble efforts as Forwards Coach and inspires a new generation to great deeds. (I was very impressed on Friday with Trembath and Offerdahl in Flegg).