Cam Smith's "multiple threads- only one declared"

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Statements like these with nothing to back it up makes you look like a bandwagon jumper
Seems you have decided they were directed at you, though there was no quote. I would suggest that indicates you realise your comments are deserving of such views smart arse - not sure about the bandwagon, but happily part of the group that is disapproving of your bile
 
Something that's been glossed over and forgotten by everyone who has banded together to help him

I think enough time has passed for us to be honest on the career of Alex.....he was a solid bench player at club level, he may have became a solid starter eventually but he was no adult superstar and never was going to be

I mean i was a future immortal until i did my ACL at 25 while playing for the lower mountains Eagles

I mean call me a cynical asshole but come on it's time to be honest

He really irritated me with the 'oh the nrl has been great but I'm going to have to sue them'

If so how great have they been and if not why lie? This is all about book sales and i think Smith was used as a draw in to get people watching, he's the perfect patsy because he's an asshole
Trust me, if he had a case Adam Houda would have been all over it in a few minutes.
 
Trust me, if he had a case Adam Houda would have been all over it in a few minutes.
Time will tell I guess, the way I understood it Alex is only just beginning to understand the costs involved - and this is supposition now - maybe only just getting mentally/emotionally strong enough to take this task on
 
Time will tell I guess, the way I understood it Alex is only just beginning to understand the costs involved - and this is supposition now - maybe only just getting mentally/emotionally strong enough to take this task on
Costs don't matter. He either has a case or doesn't. I feel that he doesn't.
 
What makes him different than any other worker who is hurt on the job? Why is he special? Are our players "contractors" or employees? They have entered into an occupation which is dangerous. They know this, and, if they are contractors, should have their own workers comp.
I would not like to see Alex disadvantaged for the rest of his life because of a workplace accident - no more than any worker injured at work...
If the compensation he (or any other injured player) receives is considered to be inadequate, then this is something the RLPA needs to do some work on.
 
Seems you have decided they were directed at you, though there was no quote. I would suggest that indicates you realise your comments are deserving of such views smart arse - not sure about the bandwagon, but happily part of the group that is disapproving of your bile
Bet you wish you could be just like the cool kids
 
Costs don't matter. He either has a case or doesn't. I feel that he doesn't.
Lawyers are chomping at the bit to get a high profile case like this.

Alex's injury was caused by illegal play.
No Player agrees to play outside of the NRL rules, so compensation for lifetime care is viable.
 
Lawyers are chomping at the bit to get a high profile case like this.

Alex's injury was caused by illegal play.
No Player agrees to play outside of the NRL rules, so compensation for lifetime care is viable.
You do but case law around this is grounded in intentional acts outside the rules. It can't just be for a penalty, which is technically something outside the rules. Otherwise you'd set a precedent whereby anyone injured on a play resulting in a penalty could sue which is just ridiculous in a contact sport.
 
You do but case law around this is grounded in intentional acts outside the rules. It can't just be for a penalty, which is technically something outside the rules. Otherwise you'd set a precedent whereby anyone injured on a play resulting in a penalty could sue which is just ridiculous in a contact sport.
Didn't Jack sue Ian Roberts and win? Jack actually instigated the fracas by attacking Ridge in the air, thats why Ian stepped in but forgot to stop. @:cool:

Its just a devestating injury to live with for a lifetime :( Have a friend who dived into the surf at DY 37 years ago and roke his c2 - endless suffering :angel:
 
What makes him different than any other worker who is hurt on the job? Why is he special? Are our players "contractors" or employees? They have entered into an occupation which is dangerous. They know this, and, if they are contractors, should have their own workers comp.
I would not like to see Alex disadvantaged for the rest of his life because of a workplace accident - no more than any worker injured at work...
If the compensation he (or any other injured player) receives is considered to be inadequate, then this is something the RLPA needs to do some work on.
I've seen my fare share of work place accidents...and I'm yet to see a compo payout that comes anywhere close to covering what the real financial burden can become.
If Alex can get something close to a reasonable financial outcome because he's a high profile case then so be it.
 
Didn't Jack sue Ian Roberts and win? Jack actually instigated the fracas by attacking Ridge in the air, thats why Ian stepped in but forgot to stop. @:cool:

Its just a devestating injury to live with for a lifetime :( Have a friend who dived into the surf at DY 37 years ago and roke his c2 - endless suffering :angel:
It is terrible and to be honest, the players association should wear some of the blame for how their injured players are handled once their career is over. They sort the insurance (I think) and if the cover falls short for serious injuries, they need to have a good look at something better. There is more money in the game now so this should be well covered.

As far as legalities go, this is a pretty old smh article but covers it pretty well. Some classic names in there too!

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/04/24/1019441264796.html
 
Cherry Poppins how asked to be called a cynical asshole so I will start there.

Just imagine the middle bit because it will all be asterisked out.

The final bit is this mate. Stay away from this site. It's tor a better class of bloke than you.

And it's also for rugby league fans who don't have to google Jason Smith you nuffy.
 
Cherry Poppins how asked to be called a cynical asshole so I will start there.

Just imagine the middle bit because it will all be asterisked out.

The final bit is this mate. Stay away from this site. It's tor a better class of bloke than you.

And it's also for rugby league fans who don't have to google Jason Smith you nuffy.
I explained why i had no idea who he was,league lost all meaning to me during his career partly due to super league and that WE HAD NO TEAM

I don't even know who you are so you should take your so called advice and do whatever you want with it,because I'm not taking it lol better class of person what a freak
 
So Smith is refusing any interviews with nein and has turned down 60 Minutes on Sunday for a right of reply....I'd imagine there may be a call from Mr Packer in regards to that stance when he manages to disintangle himself from the lovely Mariah.
 
DISCLAIMER: Daily Telegraph article by Paul Kent

Having got that out of the way, I think he makes some good points and must be given more credit than anyone else in the league media this week as he hasn't criticised 9 for airing Alex's opinion and hasn't made reference to Smith's"good character".

I pasted the article hear so nobody else has to feel dirty clicking on it.


A LOT of people got what they wanted Sunday night. And then turned when it didn’t suit.

For 15 months Alex McKinnon has worked on his broken body, mostly in private, while we waited for the story to explode in a ball of triumph and feel-good emotions.

It was going to be simple, heartwarming. An inspiration, and when it finally came out he would make us all feel better about ourselves for a small moment before we went back to our lives and he went back to his recovery that never ends.

Little did we know of the whole story. How close he came to death that first week after breaking his neck, with pneumonia, or his desire to die so he would no longer be a burden on those he loved. Or his private anger at Cameron Smith.

Given the sensitivities of his injury much of Alex’s story was kept confidential. Almost the entire media gave him the professional courtesy of revealing his story, at his discretion.

I did not know Alex before his accident. I met him after watching one of those Knights’ updates and figured there must be days of great boredom in hospital and so I burned some sports documentaries onto DVDs and went to the Royal North Shore Hospital, unannounced.

I told the nurse I wanted to drop them off for Alex McKinnon.

She came back five minutes later.

“Alex is just getting dressed but if you can wait ...” she said.

Scott McKinnon, Alex’s father, came out and as Alex dressed we sat in the sun and talked and I began to hear how lucky Alex was to be alive along with the rest of it.

And so it finally came Sunday night on 60 Minutes.

Most tuned in expecting the sporting cliche, the feel-good story.

Instead they got a dose of reality.

“Is he still debating? Is he f...... serious?” McKinnon says when he sees Smith arguing with the referee over whether there should be a penalty following the tackle that left him a quadriplegic.

“Wouldn’t you just shut up?”

The game was held up almost 10 minutes while McKinnon was stabilised and stretchered off.

The scene angers McKinnon’s supporters and provokes those backing Smith, who argue he could not have known the seriousness of McKinnon’s injury, into violent defence.

With each hour since, public opinion increasingly sides with Smith. McKinnon, it seems, did not fill the narrative like they would have preferred.

Others, unable to defend Smith by blaming Alex, blame the third person in the conversation, 60 Minutes.

It was media “commercialism” and “sensationalism” when, in fact, it was what they wanted all along.

An honest story. Alex, unvarnished.

It makes the backlash hard to understand.

It seems, having been robbed of the right to walk, people now want to rob Alex of the right to be angry about it.

Our values now seem so out of whack that we comfortably allow ourselves the right to be angry at McKinnon for his comments about Smith, but do not believe McKinnon has the right to be angry at being left a quadriplegic.

Good grief.

So viciously is this battle being fought on a new front, the point has been lost.

Whether you agree with McKinnon or not he is entitled to feel how he feels. They are his emotions.

Yes, this is unfortunate for Smith, who surely is also carrying some burden.

Everybody who knows Smith knows he made a mistake and would be struggling.

“On the night,” Wayne Bennett told 60 Minutes, “I’ve got to assume he just got it wrong.”

Bennett knows, like we all do, that Smith is a very decent man. But even good men make mistakes, and good ones correct them.

Some months after McKinnon’s injury a text came through on his phone.

It was Jordan McLean apologising, and McKinnon told Liz Hayes he did not need McLean to say sorry.

Andrew Ryan: 'Cameron Smith shouldn't have argued over penalty'

“I now he’d be sorry,” he said. “I’m not angry.”

While McKinnon was still angry at the time the text came, McLean’s efforts allowed him to reach closure.

Sunday’s night’s anger at Smith is an acknowledgment that he feels Smith has failed there.

Melbourne has since put out a statement saying the Storm players tried several times to visit McKinnon when he was hospitalised in Melbourne.

Given he was fighting to save his life, and then stop himself from wanting to die, it’s understandable they were denied.

Yet where that leaves us is a community in need of help.

We have become a society without empathy, our anger expressed in 140 characters or less. With each angry reply few realise that, no matter which side we end up on here, we all lose.

It’s understandable 60 Minutes was not what we expected and many are disappointed at missing their feel-good moment.

It is also worth remembering, though, that fate ran off with Alex McKinnon’s “happily ever after ...” in round three last year, and nobody more than him is entitled to feel how he feels.
 
Good article. I listened to Kent argue similarly with Billy Birmingham on triple m on Sunday. The twelfth Man is a good addition to that show occasionally but he kept arguing smith had never been in any horrendous or repugnant media fiascos like assault and the like. I personally can't stand Cameron smith. He is the best player in the game and an intelligent media presence. But he also has a win at all costs in any way possible approach that sits outside my idea of fair play. Maybe that's what makes him such a good player. But maybe he'd be just as good without it.
 
DISCLAIMER: Daily Telegraph article by Paul Kent

Bennett knows, like we all do, that Smith is a very decent man. But even good men make mistakes, and good ones correct them.

Thanks for posting the disclaimer....and thanks for posting so we don't have to click!!

I don't really agree with Kent's above statement.....I do not believe Smith is a 'very decent man' at all.

Other than that...an intersting read.
 
I'm no Cam Smith fan but this whole Alex McKinnon witch hunt has been a low blow.

People say all sorts of things in the heat of then moment. Of course he would not have wished ill upon Alex if he had have known the cicrumstances. Look how Billy Slater handled the Wolfman incident.

No one deserves this kind of baseless character assassination.
 
Good article. I listened to Kent argue similarly with Billy Birmingham on triple m on Sunday. The twelfth Man is a good addition to that show occasionally but he kept arguing smith had never been in any horrendous or repugnant media fiascos like assault and the like. I personally can't stand Cameron smith. He is the best player in the game and an intelligent media presence. But he also has a win at all costs in any way possible approach that sits outside my idea of fair play. Maybe that's what makes him such a good player. But maybe he'd be just as good without it.
No he wouldn't. Exhibit A - Michael Jordan. Absolute c..t. Exhibit B - Lebron James. Much nicer, a lot less titles.

I still find it hard to find why he is channeling his anger at Smith though. Sure he argued the point with the ref which in hindsight was stupid considering the benefit of hindsight, but Smith didn't flip him on his head. It's like he needs something to focus his anger on and Smith is the easiest target available.
 

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