Why couldn’t they pick Fainu tonight?

[Sue]

Untested! As opposed to the invisible man Funa and the wondrous Jono Wright who has not only been tested but is a clear failure.

Green left, Pearce reneged ... and THEN he made no attempt to add Fainu for 30k when he knew he was in mediation talks with a loose cannon which could blow up at any time ( which it did) Simple fact is he had a choice after the Green and Pearce stuff and ran with Hastings alone as back up hooker and only other kicker despite Hastings issues, the same bloke you despise as a bloke and player from your posts.Thats just fact.

Annoys the hell out of me, I suppose I’m just sick of this leaderless mess like everyone else. I think I need a bex and a lie down

 

[Fluffy]

Tremt is an absolute moron. Enough said

Possibly but willing to be he can at least spell his name correctly.....

 

[Fluffy]

As I've pointed out the position of hooker is not the normal position any of those players identified as hooker. Based on the NRL logic, which is obviously to stick it to the Sea Eagles, Tom Trbojevic could play hooker. Its an absolute travesty of a decision. Just because players fill in a position out of necessity on occasions does not make them nominated for that position. The NRLs decision is flawed. Its like saying Toovey is a hooker, because he played there a couple of times. Utter disgrace of a decision. But yes Barrett blundered in not picking Fainu..and for that matter Anderson and maybe even Cust... in the 30 at the beginning of the year preferring several, at best, good reserve graders. He's got a lot to learn before one can say he is a good coach.

who does he drop for those 3?

Before you bring out nonsense like Brown, Lussick, Jono Wright etc remember that contracted players are just that and as they are already on contracts which would put them in the top 30 there is no way Barrett can get out of that.

Only new players this year could be dropped. Croker is the obvious one but that would have meant no backup 5/8's for the season given Hastings was obviously already on the way out.

 

[Fluffy]

Untested! As opposed to the invisible man Funa and the wondrous Jono Wright who has not only been tested but is a clear failure.

Green left, Pearce reneged ... and THEN he made no attempt to add Fainu for 30k when he knew he was in mediation talks with a loose cannon which could blow up at any time ( which it did) Simple fact is he had a choice after the Green and Pearce stuff and ran with Hastings alone as back up hooker and only other kicker despite Hastings issues, the same bloke you despise as a bloke and player from your posts.Thats just fact.

Annoys the hell out of me, I suppose I’m just sick of this leaderless mess like everyone else. I think I need a bex and a lie down

Jono wright was contracted by Bozo, not Barrett and until that contract runs out he is in our top 30 highest paid players unless another club takes him, nothing Barrett can do about that pineapple.

 

[Sue]

Yes there is.Not sure how many times I can say this.. You pay the extra 30 or 40 k to the player you want to take him over the minimum wage which i assume Jono is on and upgrade him into the squad before the season starts.If Jono Wright is on more than the minimum wage then Bozo has lost it!

 

[Bearfax]

Because the changing of rules on the run (which they have done twice in the last few weeks) cannot happen in this instance as it would benefit Manly. It is obvious that Matt Wright is a hooker - hence him being close to a heart attack after twenty minutes of play and had to come off. Brown is obviously a hooker as he has played most of his career as a backrower who has some utility value, and Hastings is our reserve grade 5/8th hence his classification as hooker in the NRL.

Just because people have filled in at hooker at times in their career does not make them a hooker. The NRL are now classifying players positions.

Yes, Trent should have had Fainu in the 30 ahead of Jono Wright - no doubt. However, surely the NRL could exercise some common sense here.

Matt Wright is not a hooker. His playing career has almost all been played as winger, centre or fullback. He has filled in 'occasionally' as hooker. Toovey also 'occasionally' played as hooker. Would they have stopped Fainu if Toovey had been the player in question not Wright?

It is easy to say Barrett should have had Fainu in the 30 ahead of Jono .... easy .... all it would have taken is to increase Fainu's contract amount above Jono's .... hold on .... money is tight and we need it for a gun 5/8 ... hold on ... Greenturd has just reduced our cap by some $350k .... hold on .... Thommo is avail from STG. ... hold on ..... GreenTurd won't register contracts ....

Hold on ..... we might want elevate Tom Wright or Suli into the squad instead ..... best wait and see how the season unfolds before making a decision ..

Manly had the extra cash, otherwise how did they bring in Thompson, Suli and Hodkinson mid season and are still supposedly looking for someone else before June 30

 

[double hoops]

Does a club need to not have a specialist in that position? Or No one in the top 30?

Browny has played hooker for NZ a couple of times. The clubs statement when Hastings signed claimed he was a Half, Hooker, Fullback.

Why should NRL let a new cheap bloke come into a squad just because an old bloke gets old legs a year early, or a coach refuses to pick another young star.

Be careful what you wish for. I Imagine the Broncos will just sign or retain all the young Pongas of the world, and then run a line through Darius (Browny rule) line through Jack Bird (Hastings rule) and have a squad of 60.

 

[smithy]

There has obviously been some roster mismanagement, going into a season with one recognised 9, going in with what seems like an over abundance of outside backs.

I don’t necessarily disagree with the NRL in as far as you make poor roster management decisions then you live with them.

Otherwise, given there is only 10k difference between a development player and minimum salary you could stack your 6 development positions with certain positions and keep your NRL top 30 at a minimum in those spots and hypothetically have a roster of 36 to other teams 30.

We have made some interesting decisions in recent times that could have opened a spot for Manase. With 2 spots left we signed a 6 (Hodkinson) and centre (Suli) while we had T Wright already available in our top 30 to cover 6 and T Wright J Wright and Funa available to cover the centre spot.

Suli was already signed to a development contract so we didn’t need to be in a rush to upgrade him we could have played one of the other 3 and kept options open until closer to June 30 instead of having a 4th outside back on the books.

The NRL I believe have every right to question those decisions to ensure clubs to play the system in the future.

 

[Lyonstomenzies]

As I've pointed out the position of hooker is not the normal position any of those players identified as hooker. Based on the NRL logic, which is obviously to stick it to the Sea Eagles, Tom Trbojevic could play hooker. Its an absolute travesty of a decision. Just because players fill in a position out of necessity on occasions does not make them nominated for that position. The NRLs decision is flawed. Its like saying Toovey is a hooker, because he played there a couple of times. Utter disgrace of a decision. But yes Barrett blundered in not picking Fainu..and for that matter Anderson and maybe even Cust... in the 30 at the beginning of the year preferring several, at best, good reserve graders. He's got a lot to learn before one can say he is a good coach.

I think Toovey played origin at hooker???

 

[pjayz]

Matt Wright is not a hooker. His playing career has almost all been played as winger, centre or fullback. He has filled in 'occasionally' as hooker. Toovey also 'occasionally' played as hooker. Would they have stopped Fainu if Toovey had been the player in question not Wright?



Manly had the extra cash, otherwise how did they bring in Thompson, Suli and Hodkinson mid season and are still supposedly looking for someone else before June 30

I know Matt Wright is not a hooker - that’s my point.

 

[Fluffy]

Yes there is.Not sure how many times I can say this.. You pay the extra 30 or 40 k to the player you want to take him over the minimum wage which i assume Jono is on and upgrade him into the squad before the season starts.If Jono Wright is on more than the minimum wage then Bozo has lost it!

There are salary caps we have to adhere to these days so not that simple.

 

[Fluffy]

There has obviously been some roster mismanagement, going into a season with one recognised 9, going in with what seems like an over abundance of outside backs.

I don’t necessarily disagree with the NRL in as far as you make poor roster management decisions then you live with them.

Otherwise, given there is only 10k difference between a development player and minimum salary you could stack your 6 development positions with certain positions and keep your NRL top 30 at a minimum in those spots and hypothetically have a roster of 36 to other teams 30.

We have made some interesting decisions in recent times that could have opened a spot for Manase. With 2 spots left we signed a 6 (Hodkinson) and centre (Suli) while we had T Wright already available in our top 30 to cover 6 and T Wright J Wright and Funa available to cover the centre spot.

Suli was already signed to a development contract so we didn’t need to be in a rush to upgrade him we could have played one of the other 3 and kept options open until closer to June 30 instead of having a 4th outside back on the books.

The NRL I believe have every right to question those decisions to ensure clubs to play the system in the future.

Pretty sure you can stack anyway, from memory the way things are written is you need to have a minimum 30 players that combined are under the salary cap but if you can get all your players to play for minimum wage that would double.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Pretty sure you can stack anyway, from memory the way things are written is you need to have a minimum 30 players that combined are under the salary cap but if you can get all your players to play for minimum wage that would double.

This could be why the Warriors website shows them with about 6 hookers in their squad, and about 40 players, not 30.
I guess they deserve credit for signing the likes of Blair and Harris to minimum contracts!

 

[Fluffy]

This could be why the Warriors website shows them with about 6 hookers in their squad, and about 40 players, not 30.
I guess they deserve credit for signing the likes of Blair and Harris to minimum contracts!

much easier to do when your TPA's are not included in the salary cap.

Possible that they were smart and did some hedging to get around things as well.

 

[Woodsie]

Matt Wright is not a hooker. His playing career has almost all been played as winger, centre or fullback. He has filled in 'occasionally' as hooker. Toovey also 'occasionally' played as hooker. Would they have stopped Fainu if Toovey had been the player in question not Wright?



Manly had the extra cash, otherwise how did they bring in Thompson, Suli and Hodkinson mid season and are still supposedly looking for someone else before June 30

Yeah, but why spend it before you have to ...... and space in the 30 was tight .... it is the reason we can not raise Fainu now .... the NRL are saying we are full ....

 

[smithy]

Pretty sure you can stack anyway, from memory the way things are written is you need to have a minimum 30 players that combined are under the salary cap but if you can get all your players to play for minimum wage that would double.

No you can’t. You can only have a top squad of 30. Irrelevant who they put on their website.

 

[Class of 96]

Annoys the hell out of me, I suppose I’m just sick of this leaderless mess like everyone else. I think I need a bex and a lie down

I find a Vincents and a Valium to be very effective.

 

[Sue]

Bottom line is for a few grand Fainu

Pretty sure you can stack anyway, from memory the way things are written is you need to have a minimum 30 players that combined are under the salary cap but if you can get all your players to play for minimum wage that would double.

Make excuses all you like.As Smithy says the bottom line is for a few grand Fainu could have been in our top 30 over the Invisible Man and Jono at start of year. He chose those two and that’s why we are stuck with no hooker. It’s as simple as that.Not sure why anyone would be surprised though.

 

[Bearfax]

I think Toovey played origin at hooker???

And he played hooker for the Northern Eagles when they had Jason Taylor as half

 

[Fluffy]

Bottom line is for a few grand Fainu

Make excuses all you like.As Smithy says the bottom line is for a few grand Fainu could have been in our top 30 over the Invisible Man and Jono at start of year. He chose those two and that’s why we are stuck with no hooker. It’s as simple as that.Not sure why anyone would be surprised though.

I didn't say we couldn't have got Fainu in but that we couldn't instead of some of those already contracted.

with 20/20 hindsight its pretty easy to get things right.