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Which Williams was worth while

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Utility Player, Apr 14, 2013.

  1. Utility Player

    Utility Player Well-Known Member

    +514 /6
    Interesting stats from Friday night

    Sonny played 74 had 7 runs for 47 metres and made 21 tackles

    Tony played 80 had 12 runs for 103 metres with 23 tackles

    Most who watched the game would say Sonny dominated while Tony was awol however if you just looked at the stats (without the list of try scorers) you would say Tony played better.

    This is one of the best examples of how stats alone don't prove very much.

    On a side note the next most used backrower for the dogs played 53 minutes with the rest at 42 22 40 21 & 43 so Tony's 80 stands out like well dogs balls

    Why is it so, is Tony just that much fitter than the other forwards.
  2. the mauler

    the mauler Well-Known Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +1,886 /30
    You left a few stats out that might be of some relevance. 2 tries and a try assist for SBW.
  3. MadMarcus

    MadMarcus Local Lunatic 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +8,378 /74
    Tony is a superstar. It's a shame for the Dogs that Des can't play him 160 mins per game, then you could double those stats and he probably would have dropped the ball over the try line twice too.
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    • bones

      bones Bones Knows

      +9,037 /102
      Tony-Bill Williams
    • Utility Player

      Utility Player Well-Known Member

      +514 /6
      Yes but more often than not a player is shown to have had a better game based on metres & tackles made over minutes played.

      This was just a perfect example of how these can be misleading.
    • Kiwi Eagle

      Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

      +3,884 /65
      Sonny scored a try anyone could have scored, and a good one through a strong run, and threw a good pass, out side of that hardly looked interested in running the ball

      However the 9 commentators were talking it up as 1 of the greatest individual efforts of all time lol
    • jbb/james

      jbb/james Well-Known Member Premium Member

      +1,493 /35
      I feel sorry for Rex. He seems a nice bloke and plenty of people that bag him would move employers for a big pay rise. I honestly never have seen him as am 80 minute player, but when you get the big bucks you cant bench that much salary cap

      What i dont get is. I see benji Marshall as the same. would be awesome off the bench but pay him a motza and you have to get a return in minutes played.

      Benji and Tony both go missing in games, both need motivation beyond the game, both are the absolute top of the tree when they are heavily involved but benji is a top ten player in the world apparently

      You just have to be on the right side of the commentators it seems
    • MissKate

      MissKate Well-Known Member Premium Member

      +1,621 /7
      T-Rex was the pawn in the dogs/des/todd/Manly saga, he is now paying the price
    • eagles2win

      eagles2win Well-Known Member

      +494 /0
      What about on the basis of putting bums on seats and selling memberships?
      Something else a marque signing does
    • mozgrame

      mozgrame Well-Known Member

      +5,127 /51
      Sonny was the pawn in the Dogs/French Rugby/Folkes/Mundine saga, now he's reaping the rewards.
    • bob dylan

      bob dylan Well-Known Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

      +6,440 /192
      Tony was actually one of the Dogs best, if yo don't count the ball boys.

      I thought The dogs were on top until that kick.

      You know the won that commences play, the kick-off.
    • Napper

      Napper Well-Known Member

      +803 /2
      If anyone else played like Sonny did on Friday night you'd give them a wrap. Don'tllet yyour Sonny hate cloud your judgement
    • Kiwi Eagle

      Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

      +3,884 /65
      I didn't say he played poorly, just not the great game he was talked up as having

      I'd rate Horo's effort about the game he had any day of the week personally
    • Rex

      Rex Well-Known Member

      +2,376 /60
      SBW played well, but IMO he was the second best NZ international playing in the Roosters forwards on that day.
    • Kiwi Eagle

      Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

      +3,884 /65
      100% correct Rex
    • Ralphie

      Ralphie Well-Known Member Premium Member

      +2,948 /287
      I'm just happy we have Wolfman Williams
    • The Eagle Has Landed

      The Eagle Has Landed Well-Known Member

      +485 /8
      That was definitely T-Rex's best performance for the Dog's so far.

      Even though I don't like the guy $BW was on fire he played awesome.

      And for him to apologise to the fans for walking out on them was a good move.
    • Fluffy

      Fluffy Well-Known Member

      +5,622 /204
      $BW should get involved and earn his paycheck, letting the rest of the guys do the hard stuff for him whilst he plays a few glory plays.

      If he keeps it up coaches will be able to adapt to that little input and he will add no value at all
    • Phantar

      Phantar Well-Known Member

      +273 /0
      Sunni-Khalil Williams.
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      • wedgetail eagle

        wedgetail eagle Well-Known Member Premium Member

        +2,152 /11
        Re- T.rex almost scoring against the Roosters, Friday night. Round 6.
        T.rex- "Hey Des, I got over the line, just like you asked me to!!"
        Des H- Without the ball tho', mate.
        TR-Oh..the ball..you wanted the ball over too?
        DH-Yes, mate.
        TR- Just like I used to at Manly?
        DH-yeah, just like at Manly.
        TR-So..like..the ball thing, is that like every time I cross the line?
        DH-Yeah, mate, every time.

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