Ron E. Gibbs
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Is that you, Seibs?
Weekes - need's Blacktown ASAP
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I saw thatIs that you, Seibs?
The exact type of mindless, meaningless, empty collywobble talk that signals a really poor communicator - not meaning Disco but Seibs.What so many fans demand and what they get is up to a confident and competent coach who makes those team changes according to his intellect
Success isn't linear
And if you keep making excuses for losses
The end is near
Ron E. Gibbs
First Grader
Yeah, "Success isn't a straight line" is a classic Seiboldism, which gave me a chuckle. But Disco is smarter than Seibs and doesn't use it nearly as much. When Disco uses it, it makes sense, and I agree that it's counterproductive to throw Weekes to the lions just yet.I saw that
Weirdly enough, I actually think Seibold is a very good communicator, in that he always appears very open and honest. I like the way he deals with the media, especially in comparison to Des. Most of the time with Des we could have stood a slightly damp mop behind the interview table and nobody would have noticed the difference.
My only real issue with Seibs is that the content of his speechifying (rather than its presentation and delivery) can sometimes be a little New Age-y, when I'd prefer a more old school "run hard, tackle hard", fire and brimstone approach. Which means I still miss Tooves, I guess.
I forgot about Lawnton, when fully fit he's a must for the 14 spot.
The Who
Journey Man
Who was it that thought he could make it as a fullback? He has skills, but fullback is not his position.
Haha classic line, thanks!!
I hope not. Play him at 14. Reubs at fullback, and either Tippytoes or Ray-Ray on the wing.
‘Just bring him along slow and easy. Build his confidence and stamina up.
Stick with him, he has the attributes to develop, if he doesn’t come good after six or more games with the same spine then he should go back the the Workers team.
Well , well, well.....what didn't we want from SOO 1 - Tom T out injured, well Silvertails come enjoy the predictable desert !!
Manly need a win next up vs Fins and playing an unconfident Weekes is a risk from what he has shown in 2023.
I say give hime time at Blacktown, still young and simply needs to at least regain confidence, tackling and timing, in a far easier environment.
Not sure if we are allowed to elect Jake Toby, the short explosive fullback from Blacktown, but he is far more polished as a fullback and would allow Gaz to play his Trump card well which is left wing.
1 would think with Tom being an injury and Weekes actually a 5/8, there is some NRL rule allowing a "Fullback" to play fullback.
I have no doubt Toby would create some headaches to opposition as he is a great support player which we lack, has elusiveness and that unpredictable element.
Again this is not some saviour, but I would give this bloke a go as watched him plenty and can handle the bigger players and always involved....and a safer and more more productive option than Weekes at this stage.
Plays 12.30 Saturday on Fox if anyone has time to see him in action.
Manly need a win next up vs Fins and playing an unconfident Weekes is a risk from what he has shown in 2023.
I say give hime time at Blacktown, still young and simply needs to at least regain confidence, tackling and timing, in a far easier environment.
Not sure if we are allowed to elect Jake Toby, the short explosive fullback from Blacktown, but he is far more polished as a fullback and would allow Gaz to play his Trump card well which is left wing.
1 would think with Tom being an injury and Weekes actually a 5/8, there is some NRL rule allowing a "Fullback" to play fullback.
I have no doubt Toby would create some headaches to opposition as he is a great support player which we lack, has elusiveness and that unpredictable element.
Again this is not some saviour, but I would give this bloke a go as watched him plenty and can handle the bigger players and always involved....and a safer and more more productive option than Weekes at this stage.
Plays 12.30 Saturday on Fox if anyone has time to see him in action.
Weekes is a fullback and listed as fullback on the official club site. As is Koula.
Having said that I thought clubs were allowed to draft in players from reserves at some stage of the season - but don't quote me!
I reckon we persist with Weekes, I don't think he was that bad last week, just needed to be more assertive in taking runs in attack. (Crazy to blame him for missing the Knights winger at the end, no full-back would have got close to him in that run.)
Weekes maybe listed at prop, but has also played at 5/8 for much of his juniors career and Koula is correctly playing in he centres at NRL level .
Agree not just about missing Dom Young in open spaces like every other fullback before him, more his timing and involvement in attack were off, along with a few other odd defensive plays at key moments.....he wasn't a horror show like Johns performance and another shot is likely coming, I just feel that Toby is worth looking at as feel he would adapt immediately to the physicallity and get way more involved than Weekes.
But this is just a footy site where we are meant to voice opinions and open a few options for discussion right, so let me wreck the party - there is no toby playing next game and Weekes will be there again so don't sweat it.
TheSoaringEagle2023
Bencher
I can't see Seibold experimenting anymore this season. He will likely stick with the regulars (including Johns and Harper) if injuries do persist. Weekes will be used sparingly and Tuipolotu / Arthur will be utilized more often than not.
Your definitely correct and multiple changes rarely work out, you will often see me throw in a few left field options for debate on here.
I do however reckon Toby is a valid option and anyone who gets a chance, watch the live wire fullback for Blacktown this Saturday - very Entertaining player...
TheSoaringEagle2023
Bencher
I think Toby and a couple of the Blacktown boys (ie Myers, GCKT, Stucky, Matterson) are decent enough for a call up, Ive watched most of their games. I've posted in other threads that these guys deserve a crack, but I think it will have to wait till next year. But who knows what Seibold will get up to in the off season. Maybe he will buy some deadwood from other clubs without looking at Blacktown.
Sticking and picking is a old fashioned negative approach and suggests that you have run out of ideas. It often results in form being insufficiently considered whether good or bad. If Seibs keeps picking defensive liabilities in the back line the results, the team and those players will not get any better and IMO we are unlikely to make the 8.
Weekes should be retained as fullback for the Dolphins game. He hasn't yet had a break out game but he's getting there. He trained to be our backup fullback this year and next week we need a backup fulback, we also need as much stability and teamwork in the backs as possible.
Confident prediction: Weekes is going to burn some opposition soon, and I won't be surprised at all.
Confident prediction: Weekes is going to burn some opposition soon, and I won't be surprised at all.
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