Trump

[Eagle 1]

I see.

So Trump supporters can go on & on about how criminal Clinton, Obama, Biden etc were despite none of them ever being charged or convicted of anything, but Trump's 34 charges & convictions are just a beat up, according to Trump supporters.

So Trump committing fraud multiple times is all okay, because charging & convicting him for those offences was "just a means for the democrats to shamelessly attempt to circumvent democracy"?

Do you realise how pathetic that sounds, mate?

Do you understand how the US voting system works? That it's not compulsory, that it's based on "first past the post" in each electoral college & then state? That only a third of US citizens actually voted for Trump but because so many people opted not to vote, he won? That's a bit of a Bradbury way to win, don't you think?

What about Trump pardoning everyone who stormed the Capitol building on January 6th? Was that all just harmless fun, & "just a means for the democrats to shamelessly attempt to circumvent democracy"?

On your last paragraph, what the rioters did was inexcusable but the sentencing was way over the top for the majority. Compare this to the so called summer of love riots in Democrat cities under Biden, many of the rioters and loters were arrested with Kamala setting up a go fund me or bail me out page. They did far more damage to homes and businesses than the pro Trump rioters ever did on Capital Hill.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

considering all the BS court cases against him,

None of them were bs so far as I could see
He was convicted of the only one that went ahead, and was almost certain to be convicted of the others if he hadn't won the election (which you're right, he did win)

As for Biden, what do you mean by this???

Biden knows this all to well as his party used it to try and stop Trump for standing for election.

Until Trump #2, the convention in the US has always been that the Justice dept and attorney General are at arms length from the White House. Why do you think Trumps 1st A-G in his first term recused himself? Trump's prosecutions were legitimate. From everything I've seen, they were legitimate.

Aside from that, what Trump is doing is unprecedented. Do you really mean to justify it on the grounds the Democrats did xy or z? As i've said here more than once, I highly doubt anyone here is cheerleading for the democrats.They aren't even in the picture now

 

[Uber Eagle 72]

None of them were bs so far as I could see
He was convicted of the only one that went ahead, and was almost certain to be convicted of the others if he hadn't won the election (which you're right, he did win)

As for Biden, what do you mean by this???

Until Trump #2, the convention in the US has always been that the Justice dept and attorney General are at arms length from the White House. Why do you think Trumps 1st A-G in his first term recused himself? Trump's prosecutions were legitimate. From everything I've seen, they were legitimate.

Aside from that, what Trump is doing is unprecedented. Do you really mean to justify it on the grounds the Democrats did xy or z? As i've said here more than once, I highly doubt anyone here is cheerleading for the democrats.They aren't even in the picture now

Again we will have to agree to disagree. Also again if the American people genuinely believe that he (Trump) is a genuine criminal he would not be elected.

 

[Uber Eagle 72]

A question to the anti trump posters. Out of genuine interest who do think should be the president?

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Again we will have to agree to disagree. Also again if the American people genuinely believe that he (Trump) is a genuine criminal he would not be elected.

Problem for America is that 78 million don't believe he is and 76.5 million do believe he is. How they became so divided is, well i don't know. I haven't followed world events very closely until last few years. But they are!
Where do you think things are heading?

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

A question to the anti trump posters. Out of genuine interest who do think should be the president?

Bernie.
He doesn't just say he's for the workers and so-called middle class, he actually advocates policies that would help them.
Apparently a few years ago he was considered a chance (might have been the year Hilary got the Dem nomination)

 

[Uber Eagle 72]

Problem for America is that 78 million don't believe he is and 76.5 million do believe he is. How they became so divided is, well i don't know. I haven't followed world events very closely until last few years. But they are!
Where do you think things are heading?

The distribution of votes in Australia is much more diluted across parties so I don’t see this as an issue, however I can’t see someone who is apparently an outright criminal being able to win an election even under the Australian system.

 

[The Insomniac]

Go the Trumpster ! When he meets with Albo I hope he and JD do a Zelensky on him, and he starts crying. What a poor weak example of a leader we have.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

The distribution of votes in Australia is much more diluted across parties so I don’t see this as an issue, however I can’t see someone who is apparently an outright criminal being able to win an election even under the Australian system.

I think you're right. And it shows just how dysfunctional the USA has become. Which is sort of worrying, seeing how they are the most powerful nation on earth.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Go the Trumpster ! When he meets with Albo I hope he and JD do a Zelensky on him, and he starts crying. What a poor weak example of a leader we have.

Hey i've got a bottle of red and don't like tv right now. Why do you think he's weak?
(Not saying I don't think he's weak, just asking your reasons)

 

[Eagle 1]

Bernie.
He doesn't just say he's for the workers and so-called middle class, he actually advocates policies that would help them.
Apparently a few years ago he was considered a chance (might have been the year Hilary got the Dem nomination)

Just curious, who's your pick to lead the Democrats at the next election. AOC, Crocket or Kamala or even Bernie for that matter ?.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Just curious, who's your pick to lead the Democrats at the next election. AOC, Crocket or Kamala or even Bernie for that matter ?.

I haven't a clue, no idea. But out of that entire country you'd think they'd come up with someone impressive????
Bernie's too old, Kamala too subservient, never heard of crocket, AOC seems to have some fire but ... all the racism in US probably means she'd never get the nomination???
If there is a young version of Bernie I reckon he'd be a shot (unless assassinated, of course)

 

[lsz]

A question to the anti trump posters. Out of genuine interest who do think should be the president?

He won a free and fair election so no one else.

See it is easy to accept the results of an election is it not?

This also means that as per the US system of government there are 3 equal branches…would be nice to see that in practice

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

(unless assassinated, of course)

Which the Supreme Court has said, the President can order this, if he believes it is for national security or best national interest !!!!!! wtf they actually decided that!!!

 

[Brookie1973]

Not mine!

I reject that assertion! You once accused me of that (months ago?) and I checked back and I'd asked you maybe 2 questions, but you'd asked me several more!
It's become one of your alternative facts, say it often enough and it becomes true

Speaking of alternative facts, here are the post numbers for your most recent posts referencing me and my response post numbers (in brackets) from this thread and the other one;

This thread - posts #971 (973), 995 (998), 1,009 (1,011). Prior to this, you were on one of your self imposed exiles from interacting with me directly.
Prove me wrong - posts #200 (208), 178 (184), 153 (157), 141 (143), 130 (131), 108 (109), 110 (118).

In relation to your accusatory style, as you know I am not the only one to make that claim.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

He won a free and fair election so no one else.

See it is easy to accept the results of an election is it not?

This also means that as per the US system of government there are 3 equal branches…would be nice to see that in practice

aha! Uber eagle has changed his/her question from who should be NEXT president to who should be president

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Ca

Speaking of alternative facts, here are the post numbers for your most recent posts referencing me and my response post numbers (in brackets) from this thread and the other one;

This thread - posts #971 (973), 995 (998), 1,009 (1,011). Prior to this, you were on one of your self imposed exiles from interacting with me directly.
Prove me wrong - posts #200 (208), 178 (184), 153 (157), 141 (143), 130 (131), 108 (109), 110 (118).

In relation to your accusatory style, as you know I am not the only one to make that claim.

can you please decode all those numbers in plain language?

 

[Brookie1973]

It really is true when Trump said "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters."

I may have missed it but I am waiting for any sort of view that Trump is in anyway fallible. My mistake for engaging you again...I should have learnt my lesson

Of course he is fallible, like any human. I have called him a clownish buffoon multiple times. The difference between you and I is that I can look passed shortcomings that I do not believe are relevant to whether or not he is the best person to lead the free world. I don’t sweat over every gaff or misspoken word, because they are not important in the big picture. I fully agree with his policy agenda.

Now your turn - when will you admit he has done anything good. SER8 can also answer that one if he wishes.

 

[Brookie1973]

Ca

can you please decode all those numbers in plain language?

The first number is your post number, the number in brackets is my response.

 

[Eagle 1]

I haven't a clue, no idea. But out of that entire country you'd think they'd come up with someone impressive????
Bernie's too old, Kamala too subservient, never heard of crocket, AOC seems to have some fire but ... all the racism in US probably means she'd never get the nomination???
If there is a young version of Bernie I reckon he'd be a shot (unless assassinated, of course)

Crocket is similar to AOC but even more radical, has a big following tho. They really need an impressive moderate to step up, maybe Newsome, but after his leadership during and after the LA wildfires, probably not.