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[lsz]

I’ll wait until kash has his day in court before leaping to judgement. What is he charged with again?

What a shock that instead of taking the time to read something you deflect to what about ism.

It is a shame as I take the time to read or watch what you post and then respond directly to it rather than "what about this person"

I do like how you refuse to critically look at what is either clear grifting or , god forbid, a cover up.

I actually think this this the one thing that might hurt trump which, frany, is amazing.

 

[manlyfan76]

So unsurprisingly the prison cell video is not "raw" footage but has multiple edits.

 

[Brookie1973]

What a shock that instead of taking the time to read something you deflect to what about ism.

It is a shame as I take the time to read or watch what you post and then respond directly to it rather than "what about this person"

I do like how you refuse to critically look at what is either clear grifting or , god forbid, a cover up.

I actually think is the one thing that might hurt trump which, frany, is amazing.

I honestly don’t think it is necessary to have a debate about every single post, because quite frankly (and as I have said before) no one is changing their minds.

Hopefully you would agree that neither side is perfect. What I am trying to do is illustrate the hypocrisy of non-stop Trump bashing given the many shortcomings on the other side, which hardly ever get any exposure. The same people who continually criticise trump were silent on the issue of Bidens mental capacity for office, for example. To me, having a president who appears to have been completely MIA is a far more serious issue than anything trump is accused of. All I see trump doing is trying to deliver on the promises he was democratically elected to deliver, but unfortunately is being blocked at every turn by democrats and politically appointed judges who are supposedly all for democracy. The hypocrisy is astounding.

In relation to the recent series of posts, in post #628 I highlighted that a number of democrats had been charged with vote harvesting, which seems like a fairly serious “threat to democracy” to me. There were crickets by way of response, which is fine by me, I’m not looking for, nor expect, anyone to go against their political bias and agree with me on anything. I’m just trying to provide balance.

You then posted (#632) something completely unrelated about kash/bongorno being grifters (in your mind), to which I responded on the basis there are grifters on both sides. You then complained (#635) that I didn’t agree with your post #632 and that I should have admitted the right sometimes gets it wrong. In post #637 I said I knew very little about kash/bongiorno so was in no position to agree or disagree with your view they are grifters. I then asked you about my post #628 (Democrat vote harvesters) to which you indicated you would hold judgement until they had their day in court (#638). But when I used that approach in my post #639 for kash/bongiorno you complained that I was deflecting.

 

[Brookie1973]

So unsurprisingly the prison cell video is not "raw" footage but has multiple edits.

I suspect whatever transpired here has serious ramifications for people on both sides of politics, which is why neither side has come clean, and probably never will.

 

[manlyfan76]

I think there were some very dodgy deals involved in his earlier prosecution, but I don't believe it's part of a massive conspiracy.


What I do think is that a bunch of right-wing grifters pushed a conspiracy theory while they were out of office because it was a convenient cash cow. Now that they’re in a position of accountability, they’re being exposed for what many of them, like Patel / DanB truly are: grifters.

I recommend reading /watching some of Whitneys videos / articles.
She is not right or left wing but a great investigator.

Government by Blackmail: Jeffrey Epstein, Trump’s Mentor and the Dark Secrets of the Reagan Era

Appalling for both the villainous abuse of children itself and the chilling implications of government by blackmail, this tangled web of unsavory alliances casts a lurid light on the political history of the U.S. from the Prohibition Era right up through the Age of Trump.

unlimitedhangout.com

 

[Brookie1973]

I recommend reading /watching some of Whitneys videos / articles.
She is not right or left wing but a great investigator.

Government by Blackmail: Jeffrey Epstein, Trump’s Mentor and the Dark Secrets of the Reagan Era

Appalling for both the villainous abuse of children itself and the chilling implications of government by blackmail, this tangled web of unsavory alliances casts a lurid light on the political history of the U.S. from the Prohibition Era right up through the Age of Trump.

unlimitedhangout.com

I think the comments attached to that article are more enlightening than the article itself, which just seems to be another anti Trump hit piece.

 

[47MVEagle]

What a shock that instead of taking the time to read something you deflect to what about ism.

It is a shame as I take the time to read or watch what you post and then respond directly to it rather than "what about this person"

I do like how you refuse to critically look at what is either clear grifting or , god forbid, a cover up.

I actually think this this the one thing that might hurt trump which, frany, is amazing.

Don’t waste your time, he’s pro-Trump, he’s drank the koolaid, he’s part of the cult.

There’s no getting through to his type.

 

[47MVEagle]

I honestly don’t think it is necessary to have a debate about every single post, because quite frankly (and as I have said before) no one is changing their minds.

Hopefully you would agree that neither side is perfect. What I am trying to do is illustrate the hypocrisy of non-stop Trump bashing given the many shortcomings on the other side, which hardly ever get any exposure. The same people who continually criticise trump were silent on the issue of Bidens mental capacity for office, for example. To me, having a president who appears to have been completely MIA is a far more serious issue than anything trump is accused of. All I see trump doing is trying to deliver on the promises he was democratically elected to deliver, but unfortunately is being blocked at every turn by democrats and politically appointed judges who are supposedly all for democracy. The hypocrisy is astounding.

In relation to the recent series of posts, in post #628 I highlighted that a number of democrats had been charged with vote harvesting, which seems like a fairly serious “threat to democracy” to me. There were crickets by way of response, which is fine by me, I’m not looking for, nor expect, anyone to go against their political bias and agree with me on anything. I’m just trying to provide balance.

You then posted (#632) something completely unrelated about kash/bongorno being grifters (in your mind), to which I responded on the basis there are grifters on both sides. You then complained (#635) that I didn’t agree with your post #632 and that I should have admitted the right sometimes gets it wrong. In post #637 I said I knew very little about kash/bongiorno so was in no position to agree or disagree with your view they are grifters. I then asked you about my post #628 (Democrat vote harvesters) to which you indicated you would hold judgement until they had their day in court (#638). But when I used that approach in my post #639 for kash/bongiorno you complained that I was deflecting.

Imagine if the effort that was put into this load of rubbish was put into actually answering one question honestly?

 

[manlyfan76]

Still think trump government is not lawless?

Spending $200 billion on ICE is a terrible idea

I've covered federal law enforcement for two decades. Here are the things that worry me most.

www.motherjones.com

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Don’t waste your time, he’s pro-Trump, he’s drank the koolaid, he’s part of the cult.

There’s no getting through to his type.

Brookie73 is intellectually dishonest. A fraud. A con.
And worst of all, boring as bat****. The guy is a prize [edited to remove offensive language]

 

[manlyfan76]

Brookie73 is intellectually dishonest. A fraud. A con.
And worst of all, boring as bat****. The guy is a prize [edited to remove offensive language]

Biff threatened to physically hurt me in a p.m.. I asked him for his address so I could go around and talk to him and he chickened out.

Very surprised he is allowed on the site.


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[manlyfan76]

Ah It's Obama's fault.

 

[Brookie1973]

The Biff alt identity crap was invented by 47MVEagle. When I called him out on it and offered to get a moderator to separately contact both parties to prove we were not one and the same (with the loser donating money to the site) he backed down. He surfaces now and again to peddle the same crap.

As for the rest of the CNN indoctrinated mouthpieces on here, I seem to have ruffled a few feathers, so I’ll take a break for a while. Enjoy your echo chamber. It is telling how quickly some people resort to insults when they have run out of arguments.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Yay. And don’t hurry back on my account. Come back when you’ve regrouped. Or never. Never is good.

This con-artist asked me a question about borders, with a view to ‘genuine discussion’. A nuanced issue, which I took the time to answer.

His only response? ‘I disagree with your definition of left and right’. I didn’t even try to define left and right, I only said what they mean to me. So did our balanced genuine debater offer his own thoughts on what they mean? Nah, couldn’t be bothered.

Did he offer his thoughts on borders? Which was the question he’d asked me. Nup. Not a solitary word.

That’s the last time I’m suckered into thinking there’s any chance of genuine respectful debate or discussion with this clown. He’s simply an agitator. And a facile one at that.

 

[manly al]

Politics [ in whatever context ] and non footy related general discussion aside , looks like Brookie 1973 "s support and fairly thorough knowledge of all things Manly goes back a long way and i find that a bonus on the site
Don 't claim to be the most perceptive of observers on here but highly doubt Brookie 1973 is a revamped Biff , quite a few subtle differences just from my basic recollection .
Just think that it good and definitely on the interesting side to have a real diverse range of opinions on here, footy related or not and of course as always , ideally on the civil side
Certainly do not have to agree or relate to what is said or even give complete attention to it but good again to have the differing views put out there .

 

[47MVEagle]

The Biff alt identity crap was invented by 47MVEagle. When I called him out on it and offered to get a moderator to separately contact both parties to prove we were not one and the same (with the loser donating money to the site) he backed down. He surfaces now and again to peddle the same crap.

As for the rest of the CNN indoctrinated mouthpieces on here, I seem to have ruffled a few feathers, so I’ll take a break for a while. Enjoy your echo chamber. It is telling how quickly some people resort to insults when they have run out of arguments.

Hmmm, I wonder which (up until now) inactive user profile will suddenly become prolific now that Biff1973 has announced his departure 🤔