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I can understand which is why I felt that there was not a strong chance of it being viewed.

Basically he says cuts to anything out of the top5/6 areas of spend are like a drop in the ocean from a $ perspective
Yes, but to my earlier point, imagine the outcry if they started cutting social security, Medicare and health, which are all in the top categories. The left already have a collective fit when they propose cutting gender reassignment surgeries for iguanas in Guatemala, imagine if they started cutting the social security benefits of all the protestors who clearly don’t have real jobs to go to.
 
Sorry mate, I simply refuse to watch anything ABC. It is straight propaganda. One look at this guys video screenshots tells me all I need to know. It is a tragedy of modern life that all State news services have long since dropped any pretext of being impartial. That may be ok if they spoke for the majority, but if they weren’t tax payer funded they would be shut down in next to no time.
What do you prefer? Fox News?
Just to preface: I’ve only read a few of your posts so may be jumping the gun here. If that’s the case then this is more of a broad rant.

I haven’t had an account here for some years, but stumbled on this thread and am pretty surprised to see a fair few posters repeating the same spiel of MAGA folk over in the states. Remember, that bunch (quantitatively) are composed of the least educated portion of their (generally) ignorant population. 20% of the population are illiterate and education varies state by state; you can imagine the quality of education in the south

Your more recent post references “the left” as if they’re some singular entity. The current administration uses the same strategy where they try lump people into groups and generate fear. “These evil aliens will…”, “the left plan to …”, “those liberals…(insert vague reference to transgender, money, immigration, jobs)”.

Besides, the left in the US is basically centre. Both parties have succumbed to corporate $. Yet what’s dangerous is that the Trump administration is filled with incompetent, shameless suck ups with zero care for people with different views or nationalities. Just yesterday I saw a video of an Afghani man that defected to help the US war effort over there being whisked away by masked ICE personnel.

Alluding to a seperate post of yours, remember that the only reason a truly democratic country cares to make money is to provide care for their people. Be it hospitals, Medicaid (in US) or whatever else. If money doesn’t go into helping people, we know where else it goes… straight into the pockets of the 1%. USaid is another topic. Part of it is to help people, the other part is to establish soft power. Trump is completely oblivious to the fact that since WW2 the US has strategically invested in other countries to further establish their foothold as the richest country in the world. The effects of their recent move back to early 1900’s isolationism will have horrible economic consequences for them long term.

The whole Doge scam is another topic that I don’t even want to get into because it’s been such a **** up. Many MAGA got a rude shock when they got fired by AI, despite previously being excited it would only happen to people they don’t like.

Slowly but surely, Trump’s support base is being divided on topics they don’t quite understand (tariffs, foreign relations) and now the possibility for middle-eastern war 2.0. With the increasing prevalence of masked authorities such as ICE becoming more prevalent, it’s clear there’s only a matter of time before the noise grows. Trump’s sycophant’s are slowly but surely following the 1930’s Nazi guidebook. But they are too blatantly corrupt and incompetent to succeed at establishing Fascism (whether they even understand that’s what their goal is). Shockingly, this whole ordeal has shown that memories are short, and if a charismatic AND clever leader emerged the states could very easily descend. They are a country that has history with hating progress of the people (look no further than the black rights movement)

I understand this has been a bit of a whirlwind. But to finish back at the start, it doesn’t really matter if ABC is or isn’t propaganda. The choice to only view news from a select few outlets - ironically - puts you at far greater risk of propaganda.
 
Trump’s sycophant’s are slowly but surely following the 1930’s Nazi guidebook. But they are too blatantly corrupt and incompetent to succeed at establishing Fascism
True. Trump would never declare some national emergency such as invasion of Mexicans or the budget deficit or Kristi Noem running out of Botox, and use said 'emergency' as a reason to delay (cancel) elections. Which the (his) Supreme Court will no doubt shortly declare is within his power.
Could never happen
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Yes, but to my earlier point, imagine the outcry if they started cutting social security, Medicare and health, which are all in the top categories. The left already have a collective fit when they propose cutting gender reassignment surgeries for iguanas in Guatemala, imagine if they started cutting the social security benefits of all the protestors who clearly don’t have real jobs to go to.
So do we agree that without real structural change (including the military) there is really no benefit in cutting smaller programs many of which have real benefits?
 
What do you prefer? Fox News?
Just to preface: I’ve only read a few of your posts so may be jumping the gun here. If that’s the case then this is more of a broad rant.

I haven’t had an account here for some years, but stumbled on this thread and am pretty surprised to see a fair few posters repeating the same spiel of MAGA folk over in the states. Remember, that bunch (quantitatively) are composed of the least educated portion of their (generally) ignorant population. 20% of the population are illiterate and education varies state by state; you can imagine the quality of education in the south

Your more recent post references “the left” as if they’re some singular entity. The current administration uses the same strategy where they try lump people into groups and generate fear. “These evil aliens will…”, “the left plan to …”, “those liberals…(insert vague reference to transgender, money, immigration, jobs)”.

Besides, the left in the US is basically centre. Both parties have succumbed to corporate $. Yet what’s dangerous is that the Trump administration is filled with incompetent, shameless suck ups with zero care for people with different views or nationalities. Just yesterday I saw a video of an Afghani man that defected to help the US war effort over there being whisked away by masked ICE personnel.

Alluding to a seperate post of yours, remember that the only reason a truly democratic country cares to make money is to provide care for their people. Be it hospitals, Medicaid (in US) or whatever else. If money doesn’t go into helping people, we know where else it goes… straight into the pockets of the 1%. USaid is another topic. Part of it is to help people, the other part is to establish soft power. Trump is completely oblivious to the fact that since WW2 the US has strategically invested in other countries to further establish their foothold as the richest country in the world. The effects of their recent move back to early 1900’s isolationism will have horrible economic consequences for them long term.

The whole Doge scam is another topic that I don’t even want to get into because it’s been such a **** up. Many MAGA got a rude shock when they got fired by AI, despite previously being excited it would only happen to people they don’t like.

Slowly but surely, Trump’s support base is being divided on topics they don’t quite understand (tariffs, foreign relations) and now the possibility for middle-eastern war 2.0. With the increasing prevalence of masked authorities such as ICE becoming more prevalent, it’s clear there’s only a matter of time before the noise grows. Trump’s sycophant’s are slowly but surely following the 1930’s Nazi guidebook. But they are too blatantly corrupt and incompetent to succeed at establishing Fascism (whether they even understand that’s what their goal is). Shockingly, this whole ordeal has shown that memories are short, and if a charismatic AND clever leader emerged the states could very easily descend. They are a country that has history with hating progress of the people (look no further than the black rights movement)

I understand this has been a bit of a whirlwind. But to finish back at the start, it doesn’t really matter if ABC is or isn’t propaganda. The choice to only view news from a select few outlets - ironically - puts you at far greater risk of propaganda.
You’re entitled to your opinion. I disagree with most of what you have written, but I am reasonable enough to accept that other people have a different political/world view than I, and that doesn’t mean they are uneducated and/or ill informed.
 
True. Trump would never declare some national emergency such as invasion of Mexicans or the budget deficit or Kristi Noem running out of Botox, and use said 'emergency' as a reason to delay (cancel) elections. Which the (his) Supreme Court will no doubt shortly declare is within his power.
Could never happen
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Is that what passes as reasonable political commentary on the ABC these days?
 
Is that what passes as reasonable political commentary on the ABC these days?
No I thought of it all by myself. i'm surprised I haven't seen commentators referring to the possibility tho, to me it seems a fairly obvious option for Trump to try. Who do you think would try to stop him? The Attorney General? His top cabinet advisors? They've all sworn their allegiance to him ,have they not?
 
No I thought of it all by myself. i'm surprised I haven't seen commentators referring to the possibility tho, to me it seems a fairly obvious option for Trump to try. Who do you think would try to stop him? The Attorney General? His top cabinet advisors? They've all sworn their allegiance to him ,have they not?
I’m trying to work out if you are actually serious or not.
 
You’re entitled to your opinion. I disagree with most of what you have written, but I am reasonable enough to accept that other people have a different political/world view than I, and that doesn’t mean they are uneducated and/or ill informed

You've touched on a good point. The strongest feature of democracy is the difference of ideas (i.e. criticism/opinion). Although there's a line.

People only bother to start protesting when the people in power begin suppressing this. It started way back when with criticism being branded fake news. More recently it's directly opposing courts, removing the right for abortion, censoring 'woke' books and increasing the prevalence and power of masked authorities (ICE).

W.R.T the comments on MAGA (in general) being ill-informed I do think it is typically unfair and too simple to generalise a group all as 'uneducated' (hence me bringing up the use of 'the left' earlier). However, MAGA's support base is quantitatively less-educated, less literate and more religious. Given the past few months, if someone still supports him I will give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they do so sincerely (i.e. due to his policies, not purely driven by racial/other motives). In that case that tells me they likely accepted the narratives that deficit=bad, Canada=Fentanyl, tariffs=free_money_generation_glitch, doge=professionals cutting 'waste', immigrants=rapists & terrorists, etc.. all in spite of basic economics or evidence suggesting otherwise.

Anyways, that's all from me for now;
PS. as an aside, I stopped posting after we brought in Seibold... forgive me if I seem a bit grumpy
 
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