I'm also at a loss to wonder why so many apparent Manly fans are so quick to stick the boots into arguably one of our greatest ever players, let alone our greatest captain. Not only is it his first year of coaching he's taken over a team after what can only be described as an off season from hell, continuing into the season with most of the big name players in the squad the subject of contractual negotiations, more injuries and suspensions that could have been planned for on top of trying to defend and NRL premiership. A feat which was last done by a team 20 years ago and they needed 95% of the Australian team to do it. I reckon people need to lay off Toovs back as I think he's doing a pretty decent job considering all the challenges he's faced.