Oh I totally agree Disco! What are some of these people on this site on? They must be doing drugs or are on the drink or simply have marbles for brains. Has DCE played up to the standard we need over the last few weeks - no he hasn't. Is Turbo injured a lot - yes he is. Are they still two of the best players in the comp - yes they are and hopefully Turbo gets healthy. To say get rid of them and Jake - the very best forward in the game, the player every other player in the comp would want to play with is simply a joke. Would we have ditched Igor back in the day? Not a hope in hell. Jake is just as important to Manly as Randall was in the 70's/early 80's. Jake would be first picked in every other team... because clubs build culture and winning culture around players like Jake. Who are you people replacing them with if we sell them? Which fabulous and really cheap players are running around that we would grab to make us better? Also do you expect we can get good quality players and pay for them and yet still be paying a significant part of our former players contract money while they play for someone else after we ship them out? We would also certainly be less attractive to quality players if our quality players are gone! Then I read posts that Taupau is over rated, Parker should be a backrower or he is too slow, Des can't coach etc etc. I read this stuff and shake my head at that absolute folly of the argument but I keep quiet. Well today reading this garbage that we need to sell three of our best players - well that will do me. DCE has to step up absolutely - Turbo hopefully will get healthy - hopefully we will get some troops back soon. Our defence has been our problem - a lack of shoulders hitting bodies and a lack of talk in defence. The jersey grabbing has been poor - the changes in personnel and the lack of cohesion and talk in defence though has contributed massively to our problems but that is just an attitude issue - not a skill issue - it can and will be fixed. But for those wanting to sell our best players, have players playing in new positions, making wholesale changes, sacking the coach - you people seriously have got no idea. There will be changes in personnel at the end of this year. Dont forget Des is still working primarily with Barrett's roster. The roster Barrett failed with but Des has succeeded with and without all the injuries he would be succeeding again. But there will be player movement this off season and there will be new faces at Manly. Give Des a chance to build depth in the roster. He has been working essentially with Barrett's roster. We do need to blood one or two more youngsters and that will happen. Hopoate is not far away and young Schuster will get blooded. Paseka is growing into his role and Avocado last week looked like he is a player of the future. We just need to get some luck - pick up a couple of wins over the next few weeks, Turbo hopefully is healthy, DCE responds, AFB returns, no more injuries and we start hitting in defence and having a defensiveline that gets off the line much quicker than they have and we will be still right in the mix. You doomsdayers and panic merchants need to give yourselves an uppercut, take a Bex and come back after a lie down and repeat after me... I will only post something when I have something sensible to contribute. Arghhhh!
