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Tom Symonds

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Mal Cochrane, Apr 30, 2016.

  1. Mal Cochrane

    Mal Cochrane I'm not really Mal Cochrane...

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    I am not going to overly bag the guy, but I have seen enough really. He is still a good footballer and would go well in whatever the next tier comp is.

    But for 1st grade, he has no mongrel, and has next to zero effectiveness. I don't want to watch him play for manly any more really.

    Can we start using Leary, Brown, Mateo, move Lawrence or Myles back...anything really.

    He, and probably Darcy would not get in the 17 at any club bar the Knights
     
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    • Snake

      Snake Doing The Eagle Rock!

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      I have mixed feelings about him...sometimes I think I like him and then I just scratch my head at the way he crabs back in field all the time when the space is out wide. He could make an extra 5 metres per hit-up if he ran to where the space was. I don't think I have ever seen Boyd Cordner run sideways...you'd think Symonds would have watched the top backrowers in the game at some point and asked himself why he doesn't try and do the same thing?!
       
    • Midnight Rambler

      Midnight Rambler 'I'm all for a quiet life...'

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      Defensive work rate is great, everything else is ****ing ****. I'm bemused when I hear people speak well of him. Weakest backrower in the comp. Reserve grader
       
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      • The Who

        The Who Well-Known Member Premium Member

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        Give me T-Red any day over Mr Plod, the high profile recruit from Queensland.
         
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        • mjb136

          mjb136 MWSE fanatic Premium Member

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          Too much sideways running and drops the pill at leaat twice a game, and always at key moments.

          Exit stage left for mine.
           
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          • mjb136

            mjb136 MWSE fanatic Premium Member

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            I know right, round 9 and first time i have seen him run instead of his usual jog was tonight.
             
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            • king2213

              king2213 Well-Known Member

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              T-Red was playing much better under Toovey
               
            • HoldenV8

              HoldenV8 Well-Known Member

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              T-Red's defence is generally good. Tonight he made 34 tackles and only missed 1. However.....

              He also stuffed up our attack on a few occasions with a poor kick or dropped ball.

              On his day he can be a good, solid back rower. Tonight he was average and despite his defence can be considered to have had a poor game.
               
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              • SeaEagleRock8

                SeaEagleRock8 Sea Eagle Lach Staff Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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                Wasn't his best game tonight but in other games this year I have seen him hitting harder in defence than I'd ever noticed before. Worth persevering with although Buhrer is probably in our team if fully fit.
                 
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                • Turbo

                  Turbo Well-Known Member

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                  He wasn't at his best but is worth keeping
                   
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                  • Mal Cochrane

                    Mal Cochrane I'm not really Mal Cochrane...

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                    I respect your opinion, I just think we already HAVE persevered. When is he going to become a bit of a gun for us or provide a bit of x factor?

                    I've seen him have good games here and there also, but too far in between. i don't think any team wanting to make the 8 can afford to carry that type of player. I'll put it out there and say he will never be in any grand final team because you don't make it with one ineffective backrower
                     
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                    • HappilyManly

                      HappilyManly MWTS Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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                      I'd rather we use Tred's spot for Mateo - offloads needed, instead of dying with the ball each tackle:confused:
                       
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                      • Turbo

                        Turbo Well-Known Member

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                        Who do we recruit to replace him? Gillet?
                         
                      • SeaEagleRock8

                        SeaEagleRock8 Sea Eagle Lach Staff Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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                        He's already been in our 2013 grand final team!
                        I agree though, he's probably a smidge below what we'd like.
                         
                      • Rusty Cage

                        Rusty Cage Active Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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                        .....and loves to give away a stupid penalty.
                         
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                        • HappilyManly

                          HappilyManly MWTS Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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                          I just remembered that Ferris will be back after the Test weekend, so Tred maybe back to NSW Cup anyway.
                           
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                          • Mr Manly 007

                            Mr Manly 007 Active Member

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                            I agree with most of your comments on Symmonds - but Leary and Brown are in no way shape or form the answer. Both just handy at best .A few forwards were shown up tonight...
                             
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                            • Brooke

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                              Totally agree. Maybe we should start a bring back Mateo campaign.
                               
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                              • Mal Cochrane

                                Mal Cochrane I'm not really Mal Cochrane...

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                                i will stand corrected there, he was on the bench for 2013 :)

                                I only checked GF winning teams...
                                 
                              • HoldenV8

                                HoldenV8 Well-Known Member

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                                On our forwards tonight.....

                                Lussick gave away a silly penalty early and his night didn't get much better. 4/10

                                Parcell was unlucky not to score a try and was one of our best. 7/10

                                Myles ran faster at one point that I've ever seen him go (must have been because Kevin Walters was there. Origin and all that). Otherwise was his plodding, metre gaining self. 7/10

                                Symond's defence was good. His running, kicking and handling let him and the team down though. 4/10

                                Taupau needs to get involved more in attack. His defence was class and didn't miss a tackle. 6/10

                                Jake needs to put a bit more oomph into his hit ups, but otherwise showed that all things being equal he should be a starter for City and could be in line for a Blues bench spot. He must have thought he was the Turbo Trbojevic at one point in the second half, he was running and backing up everywhere. Clever backing up and kick for Godinet's try. 8/10

                                Lawrence didn't have a lot of impact tonight really. 4/10

                                Fonua-Blake bends the line every time. Bogus penalty against him in the 2nd half. 6/10

                                Vave just keeps on eating the metres. 108 from 11 runs. 7/10

                                Brown ended up in the backs because of Walker going off injured.

                                We had 3 forwards tonight who ran for 100 metres or more. Myles (119), Vave (108) and Taupau (100). Our next best were Jake (76) and Parcell (75). Steve Matai was our only other player to break 100 (104). We had 4 players make over 30 tackles. Parcell (41), Trbojevic (38), Taupau (36), Symonds (34).

                                On the other side of the coin, the Cowboys had 5 forwards who ran for over 100. Tamau (177), Taumalolo (176), Lowe (126), Scott (115) and Hannant (110). Linnett (138) and Winterstein (115) also broke the ton. Granville with 30 was the only Cowboy to make 30 or more tackles.
                                 
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