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Tired of Bozo hatred

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by 1978, Oct 6, 2016.

  1. 1978

    1978 Active Member

    +176 /36
    I understand people are hurting from this season's result and like you I wish we kept Buhrer instead of Brown as our utility.

    But this constant bagging of Bozo is disrespectful and misses the bigger picture. I recall Bozo helping this club when it was down over the years and achieving great results.

    He came in last year when we lost our two halves and kept one.

    He attracted stars (Tapau, Walker etc) when the club was on the slide. With the exception of Myles, the recruiting strategy was okay and will look much better next season.

    He's building our junior base after years of neglect and the Blacktown association gives us a footprint in the heart of the best league nursery on the planet.

    I'm glad he's making tough decisions. I like Buhrer, but he wouldn't make the starting pack in the top eight sides this year. His size/injuries are an issue as packs get bigger, more powerful.

    Yes, there's been bad decisions. Myles, Seibold etc.. but Bozo deserves more than a year before we pass judgement given he inherited a salary-cap mess, club on the slide, horror injury toll, horror draw and group of ageing stars past their prime.

    I'm backing Bozo. I think next year will be much, much better than people expect.

    I'm also backing Barrett. He could be an exceptional coach if we ever get an injury-free season.

    I've followed Manly for 40 years. I see signs of the old Manly - a club capable of 10 years of domination - returning. Might take another season, but be patient.

    Put the knives away, respect our club legends and get behind your team. After all the success we've enjoyed, a season or two of pain is a small price to pay.
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    • voicefromthehill

      voicefromthehill Well-Known Member Premium Member

      +1,608 /13
      Thanks Mr Fulton
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      • Mark from Brisbane

        Mark from Brisbane Living the dream Premium Member

        +19,619 /383
        Good to have another opinion on here but I think I smell a rat!!
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        • Real Deal

          Real Deal Active Member

          +280 /3
          I like your positive attitude 1978, but a big problem they have is that they do not seem effective at feeding information to their supporter base. I understand that Bozo has to make tough calls but it would maybe be better accepted by us supporters if they actually did some decent PR. Supporters are paying for new membership subs in 2017, i would ratner hear some decent info from the club rather than another cap or a sticker in my membership pack.
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          • 1978

            1978 Active Member

            +176 /36
            no rat, just a Melbourne-based fan with no ties (other than emotional !!) to club. I watch long-suffering AFL fans (eg Richmond) go to game after game in the wet to the support their team, even when it is near the bottom.

            We give up on a club legend after one bad season. Pretty poor.
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            • cherry_poppins

              cherry_poppins Well-Known Member

              +1,547 /187
              To put it bluntly he knifed the biggest legend in manly history

              He can **** off back to easts
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              • Kevinward777

                Kevinward777 Well-Known Member

                +3,692 /81
                I too am most definitely not prepared to give up on Bozo. He has a plan, and I believe he will get the club back up to the top very shortly. The man has played a big role in over half of our premierships. You could also say that he indirectly played a role in 2008 and 2011 as well. Hasler after all played the majority of his football under Fulton. Is he shrewd? Absolutely, could this ruthlessness sometimes be misconceived as being something more sinister than what it is? I believe so. In any case I'm with @1978 on this one. The man is a club legend and a proven winner, confident he'll get us where we need to be.
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                • cherry_poppins

                  cherry_poppins Well-Known Member

                  +1,547 /187
                  He's a mercenary

                  He cares more about lining his own pockets than the club

                  If wrong why not be a one club player? Mercenary
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                  • mosto

                    mosto I have a well known member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

                    +1,262 /12
                    Using that logic, 99.9% of players are mercenaries including, but not limited to:

                    Cliff Lyons
                    Matthew Ridge
                    David Gillespie
                    Ian Roberts
                    Phil Blake
                    Kevin Ward
                    Ron Gibbs
                    Paul Vautin
                    Ben Kennedy
                    Brent Kite
                    Steve Menzies
                    Matt Orford
                    Jamie Lyon
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                    • double hoops

                      double hoops Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

                      +3,717 /156
                      I just find the notion that we should be respectful to Bozo purely because he is a club legend a little insulting.

                      Have you heard about the other manly legend Toovey and how much respect flowed his way?

                      What goes around, comes around I am afraid.
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                      • BOZO

                        BOZO Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

                        +7,305 /379
                        Bozo is a winner and he always has the last laugh . Bring on 2017 !!!
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                        • Terry Zarsoff

                          Terry Zarsoff Well-Known Member

                          +6,220 /100
                          No one really has the last laugh BOOZO. We all die in the end.

                          That is no laughing matter.;)
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                          • Lyonstomenzies

                            Lyonstomenzies Well-Known Member Premium Member

                            +997 /23
                            Phase 1. Collect underpants
                            Phase 2. ?
                            Phase 3. Profit
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                            • SeaEagleRock8

                              SeaEagleRock8 Sea Eagle Lach Staff Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

                              +10,527 /214
                              Toovey's position was decided before 2015 season began, and well before Fulton was brought in. The way Toovey's job came to an end was poor, to say the least, but was that Fulton's doing? If I recall correctly even Arko was making comments about it being time.

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                              • MadMarcus

                                MadMarcus Local Lunatic 2017 Tipping Competitor

                                +8,375 /74
                                Not Bozo, he's an immortal.
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                                • The Who

                                  The Who Well-Known Member Premium Member

                                  +7,245 /173
                                  Had to laugh at the original posters' comment: He is building our junior base....
                                  It seems he is doing the opposite.
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                                  • Budgewoi Eagle

                                    Budgewoi Eagle In for the long haul. Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor 2017 Tipping Competitor

                                    +5,817 /82
                                    It's a results driven business and his name is at the top of the tree.
                                    That's really all there is to it.
                                    Based on what I've seen and heard of him, I imagine I'd loathe the man if I ever met him.
                                    He was a brilliant footballer and a good coach in an era when, let's face it, we really could buy a premiership winning team.
                                    For me, he's starting from scratch as a football manager and, at this point, I'm not a fan of the way he's going about it. I don't think he has the ability of a Gus Gould to stay out of the coaching department.
                                    I'm sorry, I don't fall for the blind love of a 'legend' that some here do.
                                    I'd be extremely happy for him to be successful but I won't blindly buy in and worship at the feet of The Great Bozo just because he had huge success in different jobs in different eras.
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                                    • sheridanstand78

                                      sheridanstand78 Well-Known Member

                                      +4,863 /73
                                      No disputing that bozo is a club legend and that his best interests are for the club. He's been given a free hand by the owners to rebuild the team.

                                      Nearly 30 players have departed since 2015 and the cold hard facts are that so far we have slipped further.

                                      We all hope that turns around and we improve.

                                      Just because bozo is a club legend does not mean that he is exempt from genuine criticism.

                                      As long as we keep it fair and civil. Right now a few of us are totally bewildered by some decisions being made . I for one want to see who we sign before commenting.

                                      Let's hope bozo and his team get it right.
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                                      • Ryan

                                        Ryan Well-Known Member

                                        +9,383 /402
                                        Back in his day with Ridge, Hill, Cunningham, Lyons, Toovey and all the boys, was he like this as well? Looking in as a Bears fan at the time, I always thought Manly were an extremely tight unit, and was quite amazed for example at Ridges comments when he left.
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                                        • Stevo

                                          Stevo Well-Known Member

                                          +1,401 /56
                                          Great post.

                                          I am like you in that I can understand what is going on. Running an NRL club is like a never ending game of chess. People need to understand that the fans are literally the only ones that get emotionally involved in the process. I'm sure although Jamie Buhrer is disappointed to be leaving his home and club, he'd be super excited about a new start and a chance to be a part of a rebuild of a club with supporters as passionate as ours. Not to mention a better pay packet.

                                          I can't knock BOZO. I think he's made some good decisions. In my opinion, even the Nate Myles signing was smart. At the time we literally did not have an experienced prop in our ranks. We played a season with a Piss Weak front row rotation consisting of Starling, lui, Sao, Lawrence and Tyson Andrews. It's the same reason we had Mason on board. the forward pack needs an experienced leader, a complete mongrel and then some intimidating hard heads and good defenders. I think next year if we get Bird or someone similar then we will have all that.
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