There just maybe more pressure on Des to let Orford go ? if the club is to have any chance of retaining the likes of Robo, L'estrange, JWH , Foran, Cherry - Evans, D. Williams, Hall, King etc. I'm sure Manly know what their doing I'm glad i don't have the job of doing so I'm sure we are going to see some players leave the club at the end of 2009 the thing is who ? If Ox leaves than we still have Hodkinson, Cherry Â Evans and Foran as long as we can sign Cherry Evans & Foran ? worse case I'm concerned about is if Orford leaves and we lose one of the young halves as well now that would be a big blow to the club imo.